jaclynrea21 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Two-time Super Bowl-winning coach Tom Coughlin was thought to be a leading candidate to join the Bills either as a coach and/or someone who would oversee their football operations, but the Bills had yet to reach out to him as of Tuesday, The News learned. A source said it was unlikely Coughlin would interview with the team because of his discomfort with working with Whaley. Link http://buffalonews.com/2017/01/03/bills-scheduled-interview-mcdermott-wednesday/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 whaley deserves to finally hire his own coach. every other GM gets to pick their coach yet 4 years in and he's had 2 coaches he did not choose. if he doesn't want coughlin who cares. let him finally get to do his job without russ in there and the coaches falling in love with rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Whaley's position is weird though. Why have a co-GM/GM for almost 5 seasons and he hasn't been able to assist in hiring a coach?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estelle Getty Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Whaley's position is weird though. Why have a co-GM/GM for almost 5 seasons and he hasn't been able to assist in hiring a coach?! When he tried to assist his in depth questions put Pegula to sleep. At some point Terry needs to be called out for being the bumbling idiot that he is, money aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Whaley knows he would get canned with Tom here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Two-time Super Bowl-winning coach Tom Coughlin was thought to be a leading candidate to join the Bills either as a coach and/or someone who would oversee their football operations, but the Bills had yet to reach out to him as of Tuesday, The News learned. A source said it was unlikely Coughlin would interview with the team because of his discomfort with working with Whaley. Link http://buffalonews.com/2017/01/03/bills-scheduled-interview-mcdermott-wednesday/ This comes as no surprise. Zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 An unnamed source? Yea, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 no surprise....each want final say over 53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloNewman Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 TOM COUGHLIN DOES NOT LIKE DOUG WHALEY Sorry to everyone on this thread. I could not take reading the original title anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Two-time Super Bowl-winning coach Tom Coughlin was thought to be a leading candidate to join the Bills either as a coach and/or someone who would oversee their football operations, but the Bills had yet to reach out to him as of Tuesday, The News learned. A source said it was unlikely Coughlin would interview with the team because of his discomfort with working with Whaley. Link http://buffalonews.com/2017/01/03/bills-scheduled-interview-mcdermott-wednesday/ This is all BS. The media just keeps making **** up. The Bills are not interested in Tom Coughlin as coach. They never were. All of this mudslinging at Whaley is getting really old and the BN is not credible when it comes to this subject. They just plain don't like Whaley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 This is all BS. The media just keeps making **** up. The Bills are not interested in Tom Coughlin as coach. They never were. All of this mudslinging at Whaley is getting really old and the BN is not credible when it comes to this subject. They just plain don't like Whaley. The problem with the News is They didn't like Marrone, they didn't like Rex and they don't like Terry. Bigger issues at play here I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 TOM COUGHLIN DOES NOT LIKE DOUG WHALEY Sorry to everyone on this thread. I could not take reading the original title anymore. OP don't like English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Another of Vic's unnamed sources? Jeez, he is really knocking it our of the park at the moment. Why doesn't he stop speculating on the basis of unnamed sources and start doing some real journalism - you know... find credible sources and get them on the record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Another of Vic's unnamed sources? Jeez, he is really knocking it our of the park at the moment. Why doesn't he stop speculating on the basis of unnamed sources and start doing some real journalism - you know... find credible sources and get them on the record? Now it's VIC! All of TBN, Peter King, Mike Greenberg, Greg Bedard, Jason Cole, Laconforna, Bill Polian and on and on and everyone that speaks out or writes an article gets bashed on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 The BN boys still have their panties in a bunch because TP went to the AP instead of them. Prep for more crap-fest stories like this until they can find some other person or thing to vent their bile on. Honestly their behavior is juvenile, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 But they said Tom Coughlin was a done deal! Whoops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 TOM COUGHLIN DOES NOT LIKE DOUG WHALEY Sorry to everyone on this thread. I could not take reading the original title anymore. I thought it was deft usage of folksy colloquialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Truth once again on this one was easy to glean with a little research. The Bills and Pegulas have not spoken with Tom Coughlin since 2015. There is not interest in him as a candidate. More BS Edited January 5, 2017 by 34-78-83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Now it's VIC! All of TBN, Peter King, Mike Greenberg, Greg Bedard, Jason Cole, Laconforna, Bill Polian and on and on and everyone that speaks out or writes an article gets bashed on here. That's not my point. My point is that Vic keeps publishing articles with unsubstantiated claims from "unnamed sources"..... in two days that has been "Lynn to withdraw from Bills search" which was followed by confirmation that he will interview today and now it is "Coughlin won't speak to the Bills" with nothing that suggests the Bills have even made contact with Coughlin. I've been a journalist. I know how it works. When you publish a story based on "unnamed sources" it either means you don't have a source and are passing off your opinion as someone else's or it means you have someone who tells you something that they themselves have reason not to be attributed. If I publish a story one day based on unnamed sources that doesn't come to fruition I don't publish another one the next day without getting someone on the record - even if that means I hold the story a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 A source? It was me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) When it comes to the Bills, especially with Whaley, you have to take everything they write with a big grain of salt. And this is very unfortunate because once a newspaper loses credibility, they lose a lot. Edited January 5, 2017 by Saint Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 (edited) Good, I don't like Coughlin........ Really does anyone want a 71 year old coach?????? Game passed him by..... Last 3 season 7-9, 7-9 & 6-10..... A career .531 coach (yes I get it 2 SB's). Giants this year without him 11-5 and a sub-par year from Eli..... Edited January 5, 2017 by Billsfan1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Another of Vic's unnamed sources? Jeez, he is really knocking it our of the park at the moment. Why doesn't he stop speculating on the basis of unnamed sources and start doing some real journalism - you know... find credible sources and get them on the record?i was listening to the PFT radio show last night and Florio reported this as fact and bashed Whaley, crediting Vic for the report. Would be funny if they ended up meeting with Coughlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Blame the media! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 OMG you guys! I was on the bus this morning and Jenny totally gave Kelly a dirty look. I can't tell you who, but SOMEONE told me that it's because Jenny might have to work with Kelly on the big science project, but Jenny HATES Kelly. I hear Kelly plans on throwing her jello at Jenny at lunch today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Good, I don't like Coughlin........ Really does anyone want a 71 year old coach?????? Game passed him by..... Last 3 season 7-9, 7-9 & 6-10..... A career .531 coach (yes I get it 2 SB's). Giants this year without him 11-5 and a sub-par year from Eli..... And their division is tougher now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Interesting stuff by Dunne here (not about coughlin though). I'm sure many of the journalism experts here will discount his comments because sources are unnamed. https://mobile.twitter.com/TyDunne?ref_src=twsrc%5Eappleios%7Ctwcamp%5Esafari%7Ctwgr%5Eprofile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Are any other teams in a hurry to hire Coughlin? Nope! That says quite a bit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Coughlin hates porn emails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Are any other teams in a hurry to hire Coughlin? Nope! That says quite a bit to me. He's interviewed for 1 job and I honestly think it'll be the only one he interviews for. I personally would prefer he weren't the Bills choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 If I'm Whaley I bring Coughlin in today and talk to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Interesting stuff by Dunne here (not about coughlin though). I'm sure many of the journalism experts here will discount his comments because sources are unnamed. https://mobile.twitter.com/TyDunne?ref_src=twsrc%5Eappleios%7Ctwcamp%5Esafari%7Ctwgr%5Eprofile There is a difference between attributing to "one Bills player" and totally unattributed "unnamed source." If Carucci had said, for example, "an unnamed source within the League Office told us...." that adds weight to the story and the thing is he must know that as an experienced journalist of some years standing - so why did he not push his guy for that level of attribution? i was listening to the PFT radio show last night and Florio reported this as fact and bashed Whaley, crediting Vic for the report. Would be funny if they ended up meeting with Coughlin. And that is part of what I hate about the modern sports media business. It is the same over here.... guys start using one another as verified sources. It's just crap journalism. You learn about sources and stages of removal..... using a journalist reporting something from a totally non attributed "unnamed source" as a source for further dissemination is just bad journalism. There is no getting around that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Whaley specifically said he was open to giving the new coach control of the 53 (which isn't even common). This was reported by .... Vic Carucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Whaley specifically said he was open to giving the new coach control of the 53 (which isn't even common). This was reported by .... Vic Carucci He even managed a named source for that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 There is a difference between attributing to "one Bills player" and totally unattributed "unnamed source." If Carucci had said, for example, "an unnamed source within the League Office told us...." that adds weight to the story and the thing is he must know that as an experienced journalist of some years standing - so why did he not push his guy for that level of attribution? And that is part of what I hate about the modern sports media business. It is the same over here.... guys start using one another as verified sources. It's just crap journalism. You learn about sources and stages of removal..... using a journalist reporting something from a totally non attributed "unnamed source" as a source for further dissemination is just bad journalism. There is no getting around that. It's exactly why we have such a cacophony around One Bills Drive with national outlets such as ESPN, PFT, and MMQB sourcing stories from TBN writers as well as putting them on the air to increase the volume to deafening levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 whaley deserves to finally hire his own coach. every other GM gets to pick their coach yet 4 years in and he's had 2 coaches he did not choose. if he doesn't want coughlin who cares. let him finally get to do his job without russ in there and the coaches falling in love with rex. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Gee, who would have thought that someone would not be comfortable working with Whaley? I cannot imaging what could have happened with the way that the former coach was treated or with the way Whaley has conducted himself that would give Coughlin discomfort regarding working with Whaley. Who could have predicted this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Has coughlin interviewed anywhere other than the initial meeting with Jax because he lives there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 This is getting annoying enough that even I almost want to defend Whaley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Has coughlin interviewed anywhere other than the initial meeting with Jax because he lives there? Nope. And his name hasn't been attached to any other team besides the Jags and Bills, with the Bills being only speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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