BuffaloBill Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Amazing downfall. He was such a ballhawk. Loved watching him play on the Bills. Hard to argue that the Bills made an error here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 I'm a giant Whaley fan but I'm pretty sure we tried to re-sign Byrd. I think it would have set a bad tone to the rest of the team if we didn't make him a respectable offer, he was considered a talented safety at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 He suffered a pretty big knee injury at age 28 hard age to come back from a serious injury. Never seemed to be the same after that injury this year or last. At least he was able to get his big contract and cashed in on three years of it. Good decision for the Bills to not sign him although few knew at the time, he was a very good player with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 He suffered a pretty big knee injury at age 28 hard age to come back from a serious injury. Never seemed to be the same after that injury this year or last. At least he was able to get his big contract and cashed in on three years of it. Good decision for the Bills to not sign him although few knew at the time, he was a very good player with the Bills. I was glad we let him go. I have to admit, I was surprised by the drop off in production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Gilmore has some of that "Bad-Jairus" in him. Talented......but an entitled clock watcher with a figurative copy of the CBA where his playbook should be. Part of that is on the organization by not putting these players in a position to win.......and therefore care more about the results. The Bills dodged many future bullets when ol' Eugene opted out early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Hard to argue that the Bills made an error here... Often forgotten in the multiple Whaley sucks threads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANK2 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Go on take the money and run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Often forgotten in the multiple Whaley sucks threads... Whaley tried to keep him. These posts are tiresome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Whaley tried to keep him. These posts are tiresome... Not at the price Byrd wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 "Jairus Byrd playing 'as good a football as we've seen' with New Orleans Saints" http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2016/12/jairus_byrd_new_orleans_saints_4.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Please stop. Whaley offered Byrd 7.5/yr over 6. $30 mil in the first 3 years. They absolutely wanted to keep him. If they knew they would lose him to FA, you would hope they would have done a better job ensuring they would have received a compensatory pick for him(likely a late third rounder). Instead, they needed to sign Chris Williams, Keith Rivers, Anthony Dixon, and Jarius Wynn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Amazing downfall. He was such a ballhawk. Loved watching him play on the Bills. I know...thought he would be great...was very good for us....I guess big contract and terrible defense...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_in_tx Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 "Jairus Byrd playing 'as good a football as we've seen' with New Orleans Saints" http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2016/12/jairus_byrd_new_orleans_saints_4.html Byrd should be concerned, this is the same coach speak Payton gave before cutting Spiller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 "Jairus Byrd playing 'as good a football as we've seen' with New Orleans Saints" http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2016/12/jairus_byrd_new_orleans_saints_4.html Byrd must have been playing great football when the Saints gave up 41 last week to ARZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 To me Byrd was fulfilling his dad's dreams and expectations more than his own. He was a ball hawk but was poor in tackling and run support. Never played with the passion of someone with something to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Gilmore has some of that "Bad-Jairus" in him. Talented......but an entitled clock watcher with a figurative copy of the CBA where his playbook should be. Part of that is on the organization by not putting these players in a position to win.......and therefore care more about the results. The Bills dodged many future bullets when ol' Eugene opted out early. Neither were very good tacklers. Byrd had other in the box safeties, so he was more the center fielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 So he's playing better now that the Saints are playing 3 safeties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Two words: Rob Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Byrd should be concerned, this is the same coach speak Payton gave before cutting Spiller. I wonder if the plan is to shop him this offseason, with the intention of unloading him or possibly restructuring. I still think he has time left in the NFL somewhere, but probably at a lower cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 23, 2016 Author Share Posted December 23, 2016 Two words: Rob Ryan Rob Ryan isn't in NO this season. How do you explain the fact that the Saints' D remains putrid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 What happened to Byrd? He was a good player here. At least I thought so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Often forgotten in the multiple Whaley sucks threads... So what you are saying is that a guy Whaley wanted to keep, who left for more money, and is now being benched is somehow an example of Whaley's drafting and team building prowess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Rob Ryan isn't in NO this season. How do you explain the fact that the Saints' D remains putrid? They are ranked 26, which is up from 31 last year. They also give up 40 less yards per game this year as well. What happened to Byrd? He was a good player here. At least I thought so! Injuries. Plus, I actually think Jauron was great with Defensive back. He moved Byrd from corner to S and George Wilson from receiver to S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Amazing downfall. He was such a ballhawk. Loved watching him play on the Bills. So many of his interceptions seemed more luck than skill. For example, he'd be out of position but the ball would get tipped to him. I was never a huge Byrd fan - unless we're talking about Butch Byrd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 So many of his interceptions seemed more luck than skill. For example, he'd be out of position but the ball would get tipped to him. I was never a huge Byrd fan - unless we're talking about Butch Byrd. Gotta be in the right place at the right time Hey....dont we need a safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Rob Ryan isn't in NO this season. How do you explain the fact that the Saints' D remains putrid? rampant injuries in the secondary is at least part of it. at one point byrd was literally the only starter in the secondary left standing and they were starting street free agents around him. for stretches the unit has played very well but been very inconsistent. They are ranked 26, which is up from 31 last year. They also give up 40 less yards per game this year as well. also true - and thats despite having what i think was a rougher go of it with injuries year over year and being extremely limited by dead money in adding talent to the unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 So what you are saying is that a guy Whaley wanted to keep, who left for more money, and is now being benched is somehow an example of Whaley's drafting and team building prowess? Elway drafted and wanted t keep Brock Osweiler at $16M a year. People keep saying what a genius he is for letting him walk. You have a number with a player and you hold firm even if it isn't a popular decision. That's something that GMs deserve credit for if they turn out to be right even if they got a little lucky. I think that's what Augie is trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Sometimes guys take the money and run to a situation they're just not a good fit for. He was so good here. They never know what they're going to walk into sometimes when they just go after the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 J Byrd was a ball hawk.....but, as a cover goy, he wan't much at all. And, he was slow...slower than the lb's the bills had during his time here. Whaley did a good job not overpaying for Byrd. thank god the he didn't take the Bills (still) substantial offer...yes, he got more money.......Whaley really gave the Saints a torpedo below the water line on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 To me Byrd was fulfilling his dad's dreams and expectations more than his own. He was a ball hawk but was poor in tackling and run support. Never played with the passion of someone with something to prove. I must watch the games wrong. I thought he was an excellent tackler by I think it was his third year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I must watch the games wrong. I thought he was an excellent tackler by I think it was his third year. That is how I remember it as well......solid tackler. People talked about him being slow but often found himself in the right place. We are gonna need depth next year....anyone want him back at a greatly reduced price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 One of the most overrated players we've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 One of the most overrated players we've had. Levitre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 could he be a cap casualty? We sure could use him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Levitre? He's another one. I was skewered here for having the temerity to call him a half guard. He was technically sound, but too often got his ass handed to him at the LOS. And that was further exposed after he elected to sign elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 He's another one. I was skewered here for having the temerity to call him a half guard. He was technically sound, but too often got his ass handed to him at the LOS. And that was further exposed after he elected to sign elsewhere. He is playing really well in Atlanta I think they run a ZBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 He is playing really well in Atlanta I think they run a ZBS. That's true. Perhaps I should cut him some slack. His technical proficiency lends itself well to a zone scheme as he demonstrated here at times. But there are times you have to match power to power and he loses too frequently and thus wasn't worth what he was looking for here, imo. A decent player, but not close to a star player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 That's true. Perhaps I should cut him some slack. His technical proficiency lends itself well to a zone scheme as he demonstrated here at times. But there are times you have to match power to power and he loses too frequently and thus wasn't worth what he was looking for here, imo. A decent player, but not close to a star player. I know he is a T rex....but I think he could play RT better then Jordan Mills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I know he is a T rex....but I think he could play RT better then Jordan Mills Haha. Levitre may be versatile in that he can play all the positions in a pinch, the couple times he was asked to pinch in due to injuries here were a disaster, whether it was at T or C. I would add that in addition to returning to a zone scheme, the biggest improvement in Levitre's game is a result of playing between Matthews and Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I must watch the games wrong. I thought he was an excellent tackler by I think it was his third year. You were watching correctly. He really developed into a tremendous open field tackler. He had a couple All Pro caliber seasons with us. We definitely got his best years out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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