glazeduck Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 38 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I'm like 75% sure we'll be taking your boy from Oregon tonight. We are not at the spot in our team's life cycle where we should be trading for a weathered WR that we have to commit major cap space to. Drafting a couple young studs tonight makes way more sense. Unless we’re trading for a vet I think he’s the guy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 We signed Curtis Samual. Why would we duplicate that skill set? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I'm at work go find the quotes plz Ur wish is my command Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DJB said: Hahah it takes a tweet from Field Yates for everyone to relax about trading for a high priced WR? I’ve been saying it non stop since the Diggs deal . It isn’t happening My thing is post June 1? They might have to send someone like Kair Elam the other direction, but they can afford a Cortland Sutton Beane isn't just going to sit on 10M of cap space Edited April 26 by appoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 So I do believe it is impossible to trade for one these guys. So why is there news they are interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 20 minutes ago, Logic said: This thread is gonna go on for 11 more pages even though this trade would be literally impossible due to league salary cap rules, isn't it? No, it's not literally impossible. Beane would have had to make it work cap wise. But clearly there are people that think there are ways Beane could make it work. Many of us don't know exactly what they are, but believe it is possible. For instance we have heard Josh didn't max out his extension, probably others too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: This is true. However if the Bills have had contact with the 49ers either they or Deebo's reps may put it out there to stir interest. And being it mentions 2 teams it's likely agent or the 49ers. That said, even in cases like this, the "interest" could be something as simple as the Bills having a casual call with someone on the 49ers staff and asking what they are looking for....which is very common. This normally seems to be what beane is doing…just putting feelers out with no serious intention 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, Logic said: Riddle me this: How are the 49ers -- themselves just $6million under the salary cap -- going to eat the amount of Deebo or Aiyuk's cap hit it would take to make this trade possible? Please, by all means, explain it to me. they save $6M by trading Deebo lol. I don’t think you understand the salary cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, FireChans said: Ur wish is my command Awesome! For your next trick, please explain how a trade for Deebo Samuel would be possible. I beg you. I'm dying to hear your explanation of how to make this work. I don't know how else to explain the difference between "believing it's very unlikely a player will be traded away due to the dead cap hit it would create" and "it's literally not mathematically possible to trade for some of the guys Bills fans seem to want". But please, PLEASE....explain to us how they can do it. Just now, FireChans said: they save $6M by trading Deebo lol. I don’t think you understand the salary cap. Oh for *****'s sake. Ya know what? Nevermind. I've already spent far too much time talking to a wall here. Believe what you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Samuel just signed a rather large extension last year. We don't have the cap space to absorb his contract today, which is when the trade would have to be processed, nor do we have time to have him pass a physical unless he's already on a plan. This should be able to be debunked rather quickly by one of you people who track the Bills' plane I would think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2021 Deebo? Sign me up! 2022-present Deebo? Pass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) All of the rumors are coming out of Boston. I think this is just to garner potential interest. Cap-wise, Aiyuk is the only receiver we could afford Edited April 26 by Virgil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Logic said: Awesome! For your next trick, please explain how a trade for Deebo Samuel would be possible. I beg you. I'm dying to hear your explanation of how to make this work. I don't know how else to explain the difference between "believing it's very unlikely a player will be traded away due to the dead cap hit it would create" and "it's literally not mathematically possible to trade for some of the guys Bills fans seem to want". But please, PLEASE....explain to us how they can do it. Oh for *****'s sake. Ya know what? Nevermind. I've already spent far too much time talking to a wall here. Believe what you want. Haha. I know the salary cap terms like dead cap and cap hit get confusing but the 9ers definitely save money trading Deebo. Took a 5 second google search to prove. You can just admit you don’t know what you’re talking about lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, FireChans said: Haha. I know the salary cap terms like dead cap and cap hit get confusing but the 9ers definitely save money trading Deebo. Took a 5 second google search to prove. You can just admit you don’t know what you’re talking about lmao Just waiting patiently for you to explain how the Bills pull this trade off. I know it'll be a nuanced and well thought out plan. I can hardly wait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 11 minutes ago, Logic said: Riddle me this: How are the 49ers -- themselves just $6million under the salary cap -- going to eat the amount of Deebo or Aiyuk's cap hit it would take to make this trade possible? Please, by all means, explain it to me. we all agree to terms, it’s the 2025 pick and we wait until June 1 for paperwork? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Mr Cover 1 Greg T has been wrong several times. He beat it to death that it was “IMPOSSIBLE” to move Diggs so I absolutely expect us to acquire a vet WR now This is incorrect. He said he it would be ridiculous and impossible for us to be WILLING to take that cap hit. He was aware of how much it would count against our cap and that we could TECHNICALLY do it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Logic said: Riddle me this: How are the 49ers -- themselves just $6million under the salary cap -- going to eat the amount of Deebo or Aiyuk's cap hit it would take to make this trade possible? Please, by all means, explain it to me. we all agree to terms, it’s the 2025 pick and we wait until June 1 for paperwork? also gives some runway for other cap maneuvering Edited April 26 by NoSaint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: This normally seems to be what beane is doing…just putting feelers out with no serious intention Or putting out leaked feelers to help move along his real trade interests who may be dragging their feet (ie DHop/DJ Moore/K Allen/C Godwin/Metcalf etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Haha. I know the salary cap terms like dead cap and cap hit get confusing but the 9ers definitely save money trading Deebo. Took a 5 second google search to prove. You can just admit you don’t know what you’re talking about lmao The issue isn't the Niners saving cap space, but how would the Bills fit Deebo's 20.9M base salary into a $2M cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Not saying I want this trade to happen, but would a way around the purported impossibility be to have Deebo redo his deal to one that fits under the Bills cap while still a 49er, execute the trade, and then rework the deal? A bit of handshakes and trust required of all parties but within the realm of possibility I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, appoo said: The issue isn't the Niners saving cap space, but how would the Bills fit Deebo's 20.9M base salary into a $2M cap 15 minutes ago, Logic said: Riddle me this: How are the 49ers -- themselves just $6million under the salary cap -- going to eat the amount of Deebo or Aiyuk's cap hit it would take to make this trade possible? Please, by all means, explain it to me. Tell that to this dude who thought he checkmated me with this gem lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: we all agree to terms, it’s the 2025 pick and we wait until June 1 for paperwork? also gives some runway for other cap maneuvering The Bills' salary cap space, even with the additional $10 million, still would not be equal to Deebo's cap hit. Indeed, other cap maneuvering would be necessary by Buffalo between now and June 1st. But it certainly seems to me, though -- and this is backed up by the timing of the Tweets in question -- that people are primarily talking about the 49ers trading a WR away NOW, during the draft. And that, in particular, is what I'm mostly discussing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murdox Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 22 minutes ago, Roundybout said: he’s only broken 900 yards once and has never played a full season. NOPE!!! Bear in mind that Deebo has been operating as a running back at times in the 49ers offense. If we intended to use him solely as a wideout, his receiving numbers would go up and he would be less injury prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just now, FireChans said: Tell that to this dude who thought he checkmated me with this gem lmao 1.) I don't think the post by Appoo that you quoted means what you think it means 2.) You still have yet to answer me by explaining the mechanism by which the Bills can trade for Deebo Samuel today. Talk all the smack you want. Until you can explain how I'm wrong and you're right, it's all just gum-flapping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Logic said: Just waiting patiently for you to explain how the Bills pull this trade off. I know it'll be a nuanced and well thought out plan. I can hardly wait. Can’t the Bills restructure some current players and create cap space ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: I hope this is just fluff Deebo's agent is putting out there. If you want a WR just draft one at 33. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, julian said: Can’t the Bills restructure some current players and create cap space ? Not that much. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauleeeWalnuts Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 FFS can we just draft a WR already? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’d give a 3 and 5 for Deebo and take AD at 33 or trade down again AND pay his full salary? Never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 If you don’t like Deebo maybe you don’t watch football. Regardless I don’t think we’re trading for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Not that much. Is that a yes or no ? since the response was an eye roll, I’m guessing it’s a yes they can. It wouldn’t be my first choice, but if restructuring of current players is an option then it’s absolutely possible. Edited April 26 by julian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: I would not like this! would hate it. always injured and not what we need in a receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: I would not like this! My gut is that in general, when you hear about Bills interest in a trade, it's maybe at the level of a phone call "so, would the player possibly be available? oh, OK, Thanks" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 15 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Not that much. They could.. not that I believe they would want to or should Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, Malazan said: They could.. not that I believe they would want to or should Go on spotrac right now and show me how. You can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 seems there are at least 2 debo types in the draft that won’t cost a ton of money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I wrote a song called ‘Bills plans don’t leak’ Who wants to hear it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Would it help if the 49ers took the cap hit for us in 2024 like we took for Diggs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Are Bills "rumors" ever true? I feel like the Bills are connected with every single potential trade for every single player potentially available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 That’s great!! We’ll get the goal line RB we’ve been waiting for!!! And we’d only have to pay him 50M over 2 years!!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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