blacklabel Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 "That's it! Enough with youse, Kitten Mittens Pickett, you can go to the other side of the state and be their problem." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 30 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Ain’t Kenny Pickett a country singer, No, classic rock. Kenny Pickett and the Union Gap. Has he got cheating on his mind? Should have gone to the Patriots. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I think his roster bonus should have triggered at the start of the league year in which case he will cost the Eagles about $900k this year. I just read his base is $1.9M. As others have pointed out a "quality" backup QB probably is the same cost. As another posted pointed out, if Beane had done this and wasted 22 draft spots the board would rightly explode. Eagles got fleeced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 7 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: I just read his base is $1.9M. As others have pointed out a "quality" backup QB probably is the same cost. As another posted pointed out, if Beane had done this and wasted 22 draft spots the board would rightly explode. Eagles got fleeced. That depends if the roster bonus travels. I am not sure it does but I am not certain. Even so, I see the sense. Not saying I agree with it. But I do think there is a certain logic there. Teams who are in a window don't want a backup who has never played in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Maybe they just think he is worth that much as a backup QB…. Which he is not. I disagree. I think he is. In fact I think he instantly becomes a top 5 backup in the NFL, which is very valuable. Howie Roseman is one of the greatest GM's in the history of the NFL and I think this is another very solid move by him. I think Howie is also counting on drafting very low, which makes this closer to a 4th round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryMadman Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Steelers bringing back that Duck dude? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Don't understand this move from Eagles perspective? Only way it pays off is if Hurts misses seom time and Pickett looks good and then you trade him. All they did was lose draft position and gain nothing. What am I missing? Pittsburgh is afraid of bruising Wilson's ego. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Bills should inquire what it would take to get TJ Watt This is anything but a tank move 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 32 minutes ago, Einstein said: I disagree. I think he is. In fact I think he instantly becomes a top 5 backup in the NFL, which is very valuable. Howie Roseman is one of the greatest GM's in the history of the NFL and I think this is another very solid move by him. I think Howie is also counting on drafting very low, which makes this closer to a 4th round pick. it is a lot to invest in a guy who isn’t going to play. The drop off between having a top-5 backup and a top-20 one isn’t that much either. For example, the rams just signed Jimmy G to a 1-year deal. Seems like that is the better move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: it is a lot to invest in a guy who isn’t going to play. The drop off between having a top-5 backup and a top-20 one isn’t that much either. For example, the rams just signed Jimmy G to a 1-year deal. Seems like that is the better move. I can understand your viewpoint, but I disagree that there is not a big drop-off from a top 5 backup to a top 20 backup. For example: - The Steelers were 7-3 when Pickett started and finished the game last season. He had wins over playoff teams such as Baltimore, Cleveland and the Rams. He threw for over 200 yards in 60% of his games. - They were 0-3 with Trubisky starting. All of those losses came against non-playoff teams. He threw for over 200 yards in 0% of his games. One is our backup QB. The other is Philly's. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: No, classic rock. Kenny Pickett and the Union Gap. Has he got cheating on his mind? Should have gone to the Patriots. Gary Puckett was the lead singer of the Union Gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 4 hours ago, Seventeen said: Never trust a QB who wears a glove on his throwing hand On his tiny throwing hand. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Steelers can package those two 7th rounders into a 6th. I guess they call them the The Steelers for a reason…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcash Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I’m not here to toot my horn because I have been wrong plenty of times, but I felt as convicted as I did about tim Tebow that he wasn’t a franchise qb when he came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 This tells me the Eagles are far from believers in Hurts. And based on how he finished last season and his injury history, they are probably right to not be big believers in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 5 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Smart move by the Steelers. Pull the plug now; draft a guy like a Penix to groom Behind Wilson. Pickett was a guy like Penix...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, SoTier said: Gary Puckett was the lead singer of the Union Gap. I think it was Jim Plunkett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 6 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Don't understand this move from Eagles perspective? Only way it pays off is if Hurts misses seom time and Pickett looks good and then you trade him. All they did was lose draft position and gain nothing. What am I missing? It's Roseman, so he must know something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 6 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: They dropped 22 spots and now have a backup on a 1st round pick salary. Waste It a 2 year deal that’s $1m cheaper than trubisky I won’t say it’s huge value but they get a guy they are comfortable with for a decent contract with modest draft capital 3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: it is a lot to invest in a guy who isn’t going to play. The drop off between having a top-5 backup and a top-20 one isn’t that much either. For example, the rams just signed Jimmy G to a 1-year deal. Seems like that is the better move. would think the cash value would effect that determination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: He was terrible … Russell Wilson wasn’t much better. He has been bad the past 3 seasons. And because he is going to Pittsburgh, Mr overrated Mike Tomlin is going to get more out of him. Riddle me that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: Russell Wilson wasn’t much better. He has been bad the past 3 seasons. And because he is going to Pittsburgh, Mr overrated Mike Tomlin is going to get more out of him. Riddle me that?? Whether you like Mr. Unlimited or not, he’s proven to have some success in the league. Pickett? They got enamored in taking a guy the fans wanted who played in their yard. Don’t think he’s awful but he certainly wasn’t what they expected and hoped for... When you put it on paper as Wilson vs. Pickett, the Steelers are taking one step up from starting from scratch. A competent QB should have had some success with the weapons he had at his disposal. Blame Canada, blame Tomlin, blame Pickett. All 3 played their part. Best thing they did is admit it wasn’t working out the way the planned and moved on. Do wonder though if Pickett voicing his dislike for the Wilson signing is what ultimately played the part in them moving on… He probably could have found some value sitting behind Wilson. Probably going to find more on that Eagles squad and Hurts however. Edited March 16 by BBFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Nudes? I have eaten a lot of sodium this week so no nudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Pickett strikes me as a STRONG backup QB option, for a SUPER affordable cap hit. Why is that difficult to acknowledge? Is it the draft capital lost? I can understand attacking that aspect of the deal, but the result for Philly is unquestionably a high-end backup who barely registers against the cap, at the most important position in the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akinko_kd Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Has it been proven yet again that a quarterback with small hands can't succeed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 17 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Nudes? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Intelligent move … they were proactive in making their assessment that Pickett wasn’t “it” and are preparing for the next kid behind center while Russ cooks (well at this stage, maybe reheats) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Pickett strikes me as a STRONG backup QB option, for a SUPER affordable cap hit. Why is that difficult to acknowledge? Is it the draft capital lost? I can understand attacking that aspect of the deal, but the result for Philly is unquestionably a high-end backup who barely registers against the cap, at the most important position in the sport. he stinks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) 10 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Pickett strikes me as a STRONG backup QB option, for a SUPER affordable cap hit. Why is that difficult to acknowledge? Is it the draft capital lost? I can understand attacking that aspect of the deal, but the result for Philly is unquestionably a high-end backup who barely registers against the cap, at the most important position in the sport. that’s ultimately the equation right? pickett plus slightly lower draft pick plus improved free agent elsewhere due to cash savings vs other likely more expensive backup to match quality, plus slightly higher pick plus slightly worse free agent elsewhere pickett gives a slight kicker in the off chance he gets trade value or more likely adds to a comp pick going out the door in 2 years (while not costing you one now depending on the eagles situation) Edited March 16 by NoSaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 21 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: *Raises hand from Eagleland* From the bits I have heard in local talk radio, there has been some concern about Jaylen Hurts' ability to stay healthy. He missed a bunch of games near the end of the regular season in their SB run and they are conjecturing whether the fall off at the end of 2023 was an unreported injury because the Eagles OC at the time (Brian Johnson) simply could not develop a blitz beater package so Hurts started taking a lot of hits. Plus, they were running Hurts a ton in goalline situations: he was tied with Josh for QB rushing TDs despite Josh having 10 pounds and 4 inches on him. Talk show hosts were considering trading for Justin Fields They may want to consider avoiding using Hurts as a battering ram if they're so concerned about his longevity. I think Siriannis hold on the hc job is tenuous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 55 minutes ago, stuvian said: They may want to consider avoiding using Hurts as a battering ram if they're so concerned about his longevity. I think Siriannis hold on the hc job is tenuous Believe me, I am hearing that. They effectively fired his choice of OCs after the season and brought in Kellen Moore and Vic Fangio which...to be fair, are fairly objective upgrades, but the message the local tea readers get is that the leash is short. To really hammer home how much they used him as a battering ram, they used the Brotherly Shove all season while Dorsey held off the planned runs and Josh and Hurts still tied for Rushing TDs. I took a quick watch of all Allen TDs in 2023 and by my count 5 were Schnowplow, two were rugby scrums and the remaining 9 were josh taking a snap reading the coverage and going in untouched. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Perfect buy low by yhe Eagles. Move down 20 spots in the 3rd.....which is about yhe equivalent of a 5th round pick. If he shows anything at all over yhe next 2 years he'll be signed as a FA and the Eagles will recoup a comp. Pick. Good business all around, especially considering hus low salary as other posters have pointed out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Livinginthepast Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: he stinks Better than Trubisky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, Livinginthepast said: Better than Trubisky? worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 On 3/15/2024 at 11:28 PM, BBFL said: When you put it on paper as Wilson vs. Pickett... Wilson Pickett. Nobody sang 'Mustang Sally' better than Wilson Pickett. But we were talking about a different music genre. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/16/2024 at 8:15 PM, Mr. WEO said: worse Trubisky was 2-5 as a starter for the Steelers, Pickett was 14-11. I mean both are mediocre at best right now, but Trubisky has fallen off the cliff in quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/16/2024 at 8:15 PM, Mr. WEO said: worse - The Steelers were 7-3 when Pickett started and finished the game last season. He had wins over playoff teams such as Baltimore, Cleveland and the Rams. He threw for over 200 yards in 60% of his games. - They were 0-3 with Trubisky starting. All of those losses came against non-playoff teams. He threw for over 200 yards in 0% of his games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 At least he won't have to change license plates 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 5 minutes ago, stuvian said: At least he won't have to change license plates And he still can't buy beer in a gas station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 14 minutes ago, stuvian said: At least he won't have to change license plates Wonder how he feels going from Sheetz to WaWa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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