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Kenny Pickett being traded to Eagles (according to Schefter)


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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think his roster bonus should have triggered at the start of the league year in which case he will cost the Eagles about $900k this year.

I just read his base is $1.9M. 

As others have pointed out a "quality" backup QB probably is the same cost.

 

As another posted pointed out, if Beane had done this and wasted 22 draft spots the board would rightly explode. Eagles got fleeced. 

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7 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

I just read his base is $1.9M. 

As others have pointed out a "quality" backup QB probably is the same cost.

 

As another posted pointed out, if Beane had done this and wasted 22 draft spots the board would rightly explode. Eagles got fleeced. 

 

That depends if the roster bonus travels. I am not sure it does but I am not certain. Even so, I see the sense. Not saying I agree with it. But I do think there is a certain logic there. Teams who are in a window don't want a backup who has never played in the league.

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1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Maybe they just think he is worth that much as a backup QB…. Which he is not. 


I disagree. I think he is. 

In fact I think he instantly becomes a top 5 backup in the NFL, which is very valuable.  

Howie Roseman is one of the greatest GM's in the history of the NFL and I think this is another very solid move by him.


I think Howie is also counting on drafting very low, which makes this closer to a 4th round pick.

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2 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Don't understand this move from Eagles perspective? 

Only way it pays off is if Hurts misses seom time and Pickett looks good and then you trade him.

All they did was lose draft position and gain nothing. 

What am I missing?

 

Pittsburgh is afraid of bruising Wilson's ego.

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32 minutes ago, Einstein said:


I disagree. I think he is. 

In fact I think he instantly becomes a top 5 backup in the NFL, which is very valuable.  

Howie Roseman is one of the greatest GM's in the history of the NFL and I think this is another very solid move by him.


I think Howie is also counting on drafting very low, which makes this closer to a 4th round pick.


it is a lot to invest in a guy who isn’t going to play. The drop off between having a top-5 backup and a top-20 one isn’t that much either. For example, the rams just signed Jimmy G to a 1-year deal.  Seems like that is the better move. 

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7 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


it is a lot to invest in a guy who isn’t going to play. The drop off between having a top-5 backup and a top-20 one isn’t that much either. For example, the rams just signed Jimmy G to a 1-year deal.  Seems like that is the better move. 


I can understand your viewpoint, but I disagree that there is not a big drop-off from a top 5 backup to a top 20 backup.

For example:

- The Steelers were 7-3 when Pickett started and finished the game last season. He had wins over playoff teams such as Baltimore, Cleveland and the Rams. He threw for over 200 yards in 60% of his games.


- They were 0-3 with Trubisky starting. All of those losses came against non-playoff teams. He threw for over 200 yards in 0% of his games.

One is our backup QB. The other is Philly's. 

 

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2 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

No, classic rock.

Kenny Pickett and the Union Gap.

Has he got cheating on his mind?  Should have gone to the Patriots.

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Gary Puckett was the lead singer of the Union Gap.

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6 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Don't understand this move from Eagles perspective? 

Only way it pays off is if Hurts misses seom time and Pickett looks good and then you trade him.

All they did was lose draft position and gain nothing. 

What am I missing?

 

It's Roseman, so he must know something.

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6 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

They dropped 22 spots and now have a backup on a 1st round pick salary. 

Waste 


It a 2 year deal that’s $1m cheaper than trubisky 

 

I won’t say it’s huge value but they get a guy they are comfortable with for a decent contract with modest draft capital

3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:


it is a lot to invest in a guy who isn’t going to play. The drop off between having a top-5 backup and a top-20 one isn’t that much either. For example, the rams just signed Jimmy G to a 1-year deal.  Seems like that is the better move. 


would think the cash value would effect that determination 

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7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:


He was terrible … 

Russell Wilson wasn’t much better.  
 

He has been bad the past 3 seasons.  And because he is going to Pittsburgh, Mr overrated Mike Tomlin is going to get more out of him.  Riddle me that??

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37 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said:

Russell Wilson wasn’t much better.  
 

He has been bad the past 3 seasons.  And because he is going to Pittsburgh, Mr overrated Mike Tomlin is going to get more out of him.  Riddle me that??


Whether you like Mr. Unlimited or not, he’s proven to have some success in the league. 
 

Pickett? They got enamored in taking a guy the fans wanted who played in their yard. Don’t think he’s awful but he certainly wasn’t what they expected and hoped for... 
 

When you put it on paper as Wilson vs. Pickett, the Steelers are taking one step up from starting from scratch. A competent QB should have had some success with the weapons he had at his disposal. Blame Canada, blame Tomlin, blame Pickett. All 3 played their part. Best thing they did is admit it wasn’t working out the way the planned and moved on. 
 

Do wonder though if Pickett voicing his dislike for the Wilson signing is what ultimately played the part in them moving on… He probably could have found some value sitting behind Wilson. Probably going to find more on that Eagles squad and Hurts however. 
 

 

 

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Pickett strikes me as a STRONG backup QB option, for a SUPER affordable cap hit. Why is that difficult to acknowledge? Is it the draft capital lost? I can understand attacking that aspect of the deal, but the result for Philly is unquestionably a high-end backup who barely registers against the cap, at the most important position in the sport. 

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9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

Pickett strikes me as a STRONG backup QB option, for a SUPER affordable cap hit. Why is that difficult to acknowledge? Is it the draft capital lost? I can understand attacking that aspect of the deal, but the result for Philly is unquestionably a high-end backup who barely registers against the cap, at the most important position in the sport. 

 

he stinks

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10 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

Pickett strikes me as a STRONG backup QB option, for a SUPER affordable cap hit. Why is that difficult to acknowledge? Is it the draft capital lost? I can understand attacking that aspect of the deal, but the result for Philly is unquestionably a high-end backup who barely registers against the cap, at the most important position in the sport. 


that’s ultimately the equation right? 
 

pickett plus slightly lower draft pick plus improved free agent elsewhere due to cash savings 

 

vs 

 

other likely more expensive backup to match quality, plus slightly higher pick plus slightly worse free agent elsewhere 

 

pickett gives a slight kicker in the off chance he gets trade value or more likely adds to a comp pick going out the door in 2 years (while not costing you one now depending on the eagles situation)

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21 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

*Raises hand from Eagleland*

 

From the bits I have heard in local talk radio, there has been some concern about Jaylen Hurts' ability to stay healthy. He missed a bunch of games near the end of the regular season in their SB run and they are conjecturing whether the fall off at the end of 2023 was an unreported injury because the Eagles OC at the time (Brian Johnson) simply could not develop a blitz beater package so Hurts started taking a lot of hits. Plus, they were running Hurts a ton in goalline situations: he was tied with Josh for QB rushing TDs despite Josh having 10 pounds and 4 inches on him.

 

Talk show hosts were considering trading for Justin Fields

They may want to consider avoiding using Hurts as a battering ram if they're so concerned about his longevity. I think Siriannis hold on the hc job is tenuous 

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55 minutes ago, stuvian said:

They may want to consider avoiding using Hurts as a battering ram if they're so concerned about his longevity. I think Siriannis hold on the hc job is tenuous 

Believe me, I am hearing that. They effectively fired his choice of OCs after the season and brought in Kellen Moore and Vic Fangio which...to be fair, are fairly objective upgrades, but the message the local tea readers get is that the leash is short.

 

To really hammer home how much they used him as a battering ram, they used the Brotherly Shove all season while Dorsey held off the planned runs and Josh and Hurts still tied for Rushing TDs. I took a quick watch of all Allen TDs in 2023 and by my count 5 were Schnowplow, two were rugby scrums and the remaining 9 were josh taking a snap reading the coverage and going in untouched.

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Perfect buy low by yhe Eagles. Move down 20 spots in the 3rd.....which is about yhe equivalent of a 5th round pick.  If he shows anything at all over yhe next 2 years he'll be signed as a FA and the Eagles will recoup a comp. Pick. Good business all around, especially considering hus low salary as other posters have pointed out

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On 3/16/2024 at 8:15 PM, Mr. WEO said:


worse


 

- The Steelers were 7-3 when Pickett started and finished the game last season. He had wins over playoff teams such as Baltimore, Cleveland and the Rams. He threw for over 200 yards in 60% of his games.


- They were 0-3 with Trubisky starting. All of those losses came against non-playoff teams. He threw for over 200 yards in 0% of his games.
 

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