Is trading Milano something Bills should consider?

[Freddie's Dead]

Hmm, how should I put this?  ***** NO!!!  First of all, nobody is going to trade for a guy coming off a broken leg.  we'd get pennies on the dollar.  Second, Cookie is the best pure LB in the NFL (YEAH, I SEDDIT!!).  We give him a chance to come back.  Hopefully they don't Von him and run him out there before he's 100% ready.

[Brandon]

I don't think it's an option,  nor would it be something I'd want to do.  Milano is too good when healthy,  the cap hit for trading him before June 1st is huge,  and I doubt the trade value for a 30 year old LB is high enough to bother with,  anyway. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said:

Hmm, how should I put this?  ***** NO!!!  First of all, nobody is going to trade for a guy coming off a broken leg.  we'd get pennies on the dollar.  Second, Cookie is the best pure LB in the NFL (YEAH, I SEDDIT!!).  We give him a chance to come back.  Hopefully they don't Von him and run him out there before he's 100% ready.

If it’s just a broken leg he’ll be ready to roll very soon. Probably won’t even miss OTA.

[julian]

Milano and Bernard looked ridiculous together in the small sample size we had last year, it’s probably what I’m looking forward to seeing most besides watching 17 dismantle defenses.

 

Its a very hard no.

[LABILLBACKER]

3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

Nope.

 

Totally ignoring the money, it still doesn't make sense. But with the massive dead money hit this would cause it makes even less.

 

Spotrac has the first potential out year as the offseason after 2025.

 

 

Exactly...Milano is our best defensive player who is probably underpaid. At the very least we keep him these next 2 seasons and pray for no injuries. 

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

In a hypothetical world, yes, someone could make an offer that would make me want to trade Milano. I think a 1st + is a decent starting point. 

 

In the real world, who the heck would be willing to trade a 1st + for Milano when he's coming off a major injury ?

 

He has a 14.8mm active cap hit this coming season and will trigger 25mm in dead cap if we trade him. We would need a huge trade return to make up for the cap hit, not to mention losing a great player. 

[warrior9]

If we can find a way to package him with Josh Allen and get some good value in return, why not? 

 

I mean, we've waiting 20 years to have a good roster and a team that can compete for a Super Bowl again. We finally have it, why not offer our best players to other teams? 

Edited March 4 by warrior9

[ngbills]

The nfl is full Of jag’s. You can throw just about any of them on the field and call it an emergence. They made the nfl fit a reason. All pro level guys is another story. You don’t get rid of all pros and replace them with jag’s. 

[LABILLBACKER]

39 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Well we didn’t have Milano or Bernard. I’ve seen Milano in the playoffs, so far he hasn’t been that impact guy. Not sure he’ll all of a sudden be that guy as he gets deeper into his 30’s. 
 

Bernard is the guy I’m hoping steps up in the playoffs because we haven’t seen him in the playoffs yet.

 

 

Other than Josh, nobody has stepped up in the playoffs. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Other than Josh, nobody has stepped up in the playoffs. 

Basically. I’ve been saying this. It’s a shame we didn’t get to see Milano and Bernard together much last year though. I had a feeling Bernard was going to go off in the playoffs.

Edited March 4 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Other than Josh, nobody has stepped up in the playoffs. 

 

There was that Gabe Davis guy a couple years ago vs the Chiefs. We should make a run at him!    😋

[nucci]

No

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

There was that Gabe Davis guy a couple years ago vs the Chiefs. We should make a run at him!    😋

He’s had a couple important games. His first playoff game also. Made some incredible catches and we might not win without him.

 

But it’s time to move on.

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Tell me this is a joke

The original poster posted the silliest thing I will see all day
 

Switching to a 34 would be the second

This idea is right behind that tweet about trading Josh Allen to the Bears.

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

No. Dodson is a free agent, Spector is a backup and I don't know we have seen enough from Williams yet to say he can definitely play. I'm actually looking forward to a year of Bernard and Milano. That feels like a playmaking combo to me. 

Healthy Bernard and Milano feels like something that should inspire fear in teams come next season they were starting to look scary good.

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

44 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

One of the best players in a beat down?

It’s a team game. Not Milano’s fault that the players around him failed and it doesn’t take away from his individual performance. 

[wppete]

Wow what a take. Horrible idea. Milano is the best player on defense hands down. 

[90sBills]

2 hours ago, mrags said:

Nope. Not to mention that nobody would want an often injured LB who’s going to be 30 at the start of the season. Don’t care how good he is, you aren’t getting a team to trade for him. At least not enough for it to be worth it on our end. 

This is the kind of contract structure that keeps Bills at a cap disadvantage. Dead money tied to aging players.

1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

One of the few legit super stars we have and u think we should trade him ? SMH. Milano would’ve been the key difference in that KC game and directly one of the reasons we lost. 

Yeah I vividly remember him giving up a TD trying to cover Kelce in the 13 sec game. If only he was available to provide an encore to that remarkable performance. 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If it’s just a broken leg he’ll be ready to roll very soon. Probably won’t even miss OTA.

 

Hmmph..........I thought Beane just said the other day that Matt Milano probably won't be ready until TC and maybe not even at the beginning of camp?

 

So to the OP...........no because:

 

1) You can't trade an injured player or/and

2) He doesn't have the trade value of an early round pick because of the injury, salary(9.2M base salary) age(30 in July) and positional value(LB's don't tend to get drafted early because the position is devalued) .

 

 

 

Edited March 4 by BADOLBILZ

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Hmmph..........I thought Beane just said the other day that Matt Milano probably won't be ready until TC and maybe not even at the beginning of camp?

 

So to the OP...........no because:

 

1) You can't trade an injured player or/and

2) He doesn't have the trade value of an early round pick because of the injury, salary(9.2M base salary) age(30 in July) and positional value(LB's don't tend to get drafted early because the position is devalued) .

 

 

 

Just being cautious with his words. A broken leg just doesn’t take that long.

[Warriorspikes51]

I'd trade 28, Milano and next year's 1st to go up and get Marvin Harrison Jr  

Other than that, no 
 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Basically. I’ve been saying this. It’s a shame we didn’t get to see Milano and Bernard together much last year though. I had a feeling Bernard was going to go off in the playoffs.

We saw enough of these 2 on the field together to feel extremely optimistic about the next couple seasons. I still think Dorian will develop into a plus LB to spell Milano/Bernard. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

We saw enough of these 2 on the field together to feel extremely optimistic about the next couple seasons. I still think Dorian will develop into a plus LB to spell Milano/Bernard. 

I think Bernard will be do much better next year and will be named captain.

[BADOLBILZ]

35 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Just being cautious with his words. A broken leg just doesn’t take that long.

 

 

Agree that if it were just a broken leg he'd be cleared by now.  

[julian]

1 hour ago, 90sBills said:

This is the kind of contract structure that keeps Bills at a cap disadvantage. Dead money tied to aging players.

Yeah I vividly remember him giving up a TD trying to cover Kelce in the 13 sec game. If only he was available to provide an encore to that remarkable performance. 

Yeah because LBs are covering Kelce 25 yards off the line of scrimmage in man coverage.

 

Milano is a bum !!!!

Edited March 4 by julian

[Saint Doug]

The difference between us beating the Chiefs last season vs what actually happened could solely be explained by the absence of Milano. He plays in that game and we win. 

[90sBills]

24 minutes ago, julian said:

Yeah because LBs are covering Kelce 25 yards off the line of scrimmage in man coverage.

 

Milano is a bum !!!!

If you’re saying that’s not realistic for LB’s to do then why did most everyone here blamed AJ Klein for Kelce going off this last game? If an all pro like Milano can’t be expected to keep up with Kelce, your inference, then why would anyone think AJ Klein should be able to?

[mrags]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

We seem to want him though. And players rolling into your leg and it snapping isn’t really an injury prone injury.

Yeah but in the last 5 years he’s missed 

18 games

3 games

2 games

8 games

2 games

 

hes literally never finished an entire season in his career. 

 

[MrEpsYtown]

4 hours ago, Tuco said:

There is no shedding his cap hit by trading. They extended his contract last year in order to reduce huis cap hit last year. You know how that works? By taking money paid to him last year and prorating it over future years. Trading accelerates all that prorated cap to this year.

 

In other words, keeping him costs us $12.4 million against the cap. Trading him costs us $25.2 million against the cap. Trading him would result in us losing $12.5 million in cap space, plus we wouldn't have him on the team anymore, so his replacement on the roster would cost us that much more. 

 

Next.

 

end thread right here. 

[julian]

8 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

If you’re saying that’s not realistic for LB’s to do then why did most everyone here blamed AJ Klein for Kelce going off this last game? If an all pro like Milano can’t be expected to keep up with Kelce, your inference, then why would anyone think AJ Klein should be able to?

I never said anything about Klein, if anybody is thinking Klein should be covering Kelce in man coverage they should be put on time out by the mods, that’s ridiculous.

 

Its definitely not realistic, Kelce is arguably the GOAT at his position and LBs just aren’t equipped to cover him in man so far down the field, heck it’s a very tough ask to cover him in any fashion for any player.

[90sBills]

5 minutes ago, julian said:

I never said anything about Klein, if anybody is thinking Klein should be covering Kelce in man coverage they should be put on time out by the mods, that’s ridiculous.

 

Its definitely not realistic, Kelce is arguably the GOAT at his position and LBs just aren’t equipped to cover him in man so far down the field, heck it’s a very tough ask to cover him in any fashion for any player.

Exactly! Kelce was going to go off regardless. He did it the following week against a very good safety as well.

 

That’s why I think it would not have mattered if Milano played in that game. Our offense had the ball with a chance to win at the end. That’s where it was lost. Hopefully the team will address that scenario this offseason and be back better when that opportunity presents itself again. 

[JoPoy88]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Just being cautious with his words. A broken leg just doesn’t take that long.

Not all broken legs are equal. He suffered a very serious one.

6 hours ago, All I Need is Hope said:

With the emergence of Bernard, Dodson, Williams and Spector; and considering other holes to fill and limited cap space, does it make any sense to consider seeking a high pick for Milano?

 

I love Milano’s playing style and impact, it’s just interesting to think about what he could fetch in a trade/shedding his cap hit, and using a high pick in a loaded draft.

you justify this “idea” in part by citing the money aspect, which you got completely wrong.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

5 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

What in the bloody f*ck did I just read?

 

There always seems to be a direct correlation between the dumbest posts and the number of posts made by the person.

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Agree that if it were just a broken leg he'd be cleared by now.  

 

I heard his bone was "delayed" in healing but no further complications or damage. There was a divot in the bone where he got hit, which takes longer to heal.

[Coldfronts]

Rather let Tre go than Matt.  Tre is 7% of the cap where Matt is 5%

[Buffalo_Stampede]

7 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said:

Not all broken legs are equal. He suffered a very serious one.

It really depends on the healing post surgery. If there are complications with surgery or something like that then it can take a long time to recover. I don’t think he’s had any complications.

[julian]

12 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Exactly! Kelce was going to go off regardless. He did it the following week against a very good safety as well.

 

That’s why I think it would not have mattered if Milano played in that game. Our offense had the ball with a chance to win at the end. That’s where it was lost. Hopefully the team will address that scenario this offseason and be back better when that opportunity presents itself again. 

I 100% agree Milano or any other LB isn’t stopping Kelce, that being said it would be nice to have the defense as a whole play up to their regular season performances in January and February and not have to rely on the offense to score 30. The Bengals and KC defenses get better in the playoffs and McDermott’s D gets worse.

[Mat68]

I wouldnt start creating more holes on the roster.  Linebaker is pretty set with Benard, Milano, and Williams.  D line and Saftey are thin.  I would not want to add 3 down linebaker to the list of needs. 

[Charles Romes]

 Bernard does not make Milano expendable. Bernard is rising but is injury prone, just like Milano.  We need both, just to assure we have at least one in crunch time, though neither was available when we needed them most last year. 

[SCBills]

Something has to give. 

 

We can't keep investing in DL, but also be told that we need stud linebackers, but oh we also need stud corners, and we need Taron Johnson... oh, and Safeties are really important in McDermott's Defense. 

 

Meanwhile we have huge contracts for Von and Oliver, have to weigh giving another one to Rousseau, are paying MIlano and Johnson, have 10M tied up in Douglas.. 6M in Poyer.   Dead weight big money until proven otherwise in Tre White.   This all before any moves we make in FA. 

 

 

[SoMAn]

If some team gave up a first round pick a less than 20, yeah. 

 

My rationale:  for the sake of argument, lets say we had a Justin Jefferson level player at WR - would you trade him for Milano if he wasn't on the Bills? Obviously the answer is no.

Using that argument as a starting point, if the Bills could bundle an acquired first rounder and an existing pick to get a 'can't miss WR', I'd take it in a heartbeat. Josh needs weapons to make the most of his high salary.

Diggs is getting older.

Gabe will be gone.

Until the LB unit was decimated by injury, the fill-ins did an adequate job.

Bernard is looking good.

Dorian Williams is a good prospect.

Dodson can play. 

Love Milano, but he's not a kid, has a higher cap hit, and reading into Bean's recent comments, Milano may not even be ready when the season starts, indicating his injury may be more serious than many of us suspected. 

As much as I'd hate to lose him, if it meant making the offense a high-flying feared unit, may answer would be go for it.

Currently, if Diggs gets injured and is out for any period, the season is probably over. Go get the economical star WR.