Big Blitz Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Ty Johnson is this team’s Jerrick McKinnon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Carrying 3 power backs (Lenny/Murray/Johnson) is a luxury. They have injuries to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: There's definitely other players that would be better candidates to release from the Practice Squad than Lenny. So it had to have been more than just needing to make room on the PS for a Punter like Matt Haack or a LB like Christian Kirksey. Matt Haack? We didn't get enough of that the first time around? Wrong Matt. The only Matt we should sign as a punter is Matt Araiza. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 59 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Matt Haack? We didn't get enough of that the first time around? Wrong Matt. The only Matt we should sign as a punter is Matt Araiza. Remember the game Haack shanked three punts in a row? And then Beane came out after the season and said they couldn’t make a move on him (but wanted to) because of the chemistry he had holding for Bass? Haack was terrible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I love playing arm chair GM as much as the next guy. Training camp speculation, the draft, free agency, even week to week estimating who will be active or who might be actived on IR…but: People honestly questioning why Murray > Fournette and second guessing McDermott and Beane’s fathomed allegiance to Murray as some egregious disregard for the uber talented Fournette is a fabricated fan-fiction. Sometimes we read too far into the tea leaves. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 58 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I love playing arm chair GM as much as the next guy. Training camp speculation, the draft, free agency, even week to week estimating who will be active or who might be actived on IR…but: People honestly questioning why Murray > Fournette and second guessing McDermott and Beane’s fathomed allegiance to Murray as some egregious disregard for the uber talented Fournette is a fabricated fan-fiction. Sometimes we read too far into the tea leaves. Agreed. I have no problem with Murray. He plays limited snaps and is a complementary player for the most part on the field and appears to be a leader in the lockerroom. The combination of Cook, Murray and Ty Johnson has been successful all year. Fournette filled in okay when needed, and now they need to move on due to injuries. Maybe he'll be re-signed, maybe not--- but this doesn't really move the needle as a dramatic development. Edited January 17 by Punch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 hours ago, Patrick Fitzryan said: Would've liked to see him get a chance in short-yardage situations a few times. Their version of the tush push is predictable as hell (Allen always goes left), and it's clear they've gone to the well one too many times there. I agree. The element of surprise has gone. When the DL is ready for the push-tush, it is not working and we are barely getting to the other side and that is not going to hurt us. We have James Cook's speed, naked bootleg, a quick hitch and throw or have Allen run from the shotgun. They need to mix it up. Go Bills !!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I'm in the minority but prefer Murray and def Johnson over Lenny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Brand J said: Remember the game Haack shanked three punts in a row? And then Beane came out after the season and said they couldn’t make a move on him (but wanted to) because of the chemistry he had holding for Bass? Haack was terrible. Yet I got a disagree on my post, LOL!! Matt Haack was a hack. Shankopotamus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 6 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Yet I got a disagree on my post, LOL!! Matt Haack was a hack. Shankopotamus. Rochesterfan likes to disagree with almost everything. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Brand J said: Rochesterfan likes to disagree with almost everything. There's at least two posters in love with Haack. Guess they forget the shanks and the inconsistency. He's why we drafted Araiza in the first place. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Brand J said: Rochesterfan likes to disagree with almost everything. Badge of honor I think 98% of his reactions to my posts are thumbs down! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 12 hours ago, 2003Contenders said: Interesting... wonder if he got upset about not being activated for yesterday's game and started making waves? I’m guessing this was more about needing to sign other players to offset the losses on defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 11 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Exactly, I'd rather see him in there going for 4th &1 than Murray. This team still lacks a power back. The 4th and 1 guy should be Edwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I have heard baseless rumours that Fournette asked for his release; he wants to get in on one of these $150 per spot parking concessions for future home games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 43 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: I’m guessing this was more about needing to sign other players to offset the losses on defense. This! And with Johnson back, there was no high need to keep him. He was a luxury, not a necessity. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 If I had my time again, I think I'd train to be a punter. Great work if you can get it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) Would rather have had Fournette than Murray at this point. Edited January 17 by Donuts and Doritos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Due to the stupid rule of only two call ups per week and all the injuries we suffered, we need them for LB, CB and WR. They probably told Lenny this and he requested his release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Johnson is playing great and Murray has done his job. When Fournette was active it’s not like he played better then either. With all the injuries someone had to go and Fournette would probably be on line 1 if something bad happened moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Bill Grundy said: If I had my time again, I think I'd train to be a punter. Great work if you can get it. Me too. 20+ years of collecting 6 figures or more? Sign me up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, SoonerBillsFan said: Me too. 20+ years of collecting 6 figures or more? Sign me up? Just for booting a ball into the sky How hard can it be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 14 hours ago, JohnNord said: To be fair, he had a chance last week in Miami and didn’t do very much as a blocker or runner. He also didn’t help that much with Josh’s QB sneak. We all want to think of him as Playoff Lenny but he’s not that guy anymore yep… I saw a guy that wasn’t that interested in helping to push on the sneaks and was trying not to make it too obvious. If that had been Lenny pushing instead of Gilliam against the Steelers, I doubt Josh gets that big first down. I think the team decided right then that if a need at another position arose, Lenny would be the first to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 14 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: is it possible we put someone on IR and sign him to the 53? I have a question about the 53 number. Before the last game, someone posted up the roster of who would be active for the game, divided by position. I counted up all the names and came up with only 48. Anyone care to explain this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 29 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said: Due to the stupid rule of only two call ups per week and all the injuries we suffered, we need them for LB, CB and WR. They probably told Lenny this and he requested his release. Before COVID, there were no call ups allowed. You had to add someone to the active roster first. So it could be worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 14 hours ago, Low Positive said: Murray is already on the 53. As @GunnerBill notes above, we had to elevate a WR and LB yesterday to fill holes. Teams can only elevate two per week. I actually prefer Murray and his version of the tush push is better than Fournette's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, Bob Jones said: I have a question about the 53 number. Before the last game, someone posted up the roster of who would be active for the game, divided by position. I counted up all the names and came up with only 48. Anyone care to explain this? You’re confusing active roster (53) versus game day roster (48). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Jones Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Arkady Renko said: You’re confusing active roster (53) versus game day roster (48). Still confused. Leading up to the game, how on earth do they not ensure that they will have 53 active for the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 hours ago, WotAGuy said: Once McD said he wasn’t going to get into the reasons, you know there was some problem with Lenny beyond the roster/PS juggling. And the “problem” was nothing more than that Lenny played like ***** in his opportunities and became the first guy to go when they needed to make a move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: Still confused. Leading up to the game, how on earth do they not ensure that they will have 53 active for the game? It’s the NFL’s rule. You have an active roster of 53 players who are eligible to play and you dress 48 of them for the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 16 hours ago, Heitz said: 150 pages of speculation incoming! 🤣 100 pages of people talking about a ***** punter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: 100 pages of people talking about a ***** punter. I would say 95% of white punters could kick your ass. 100% of minorities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I wonder what kind of shape Christian Kirksey is in Maybe we get lucky and Bernard + Dodson can play Given the way Klein looked against the Steelers, I'd keep him active regardless. Dude is criminally underrated at everything besides pass coverage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I love playing arm chair GM as much as the next guy. Training camp speculation, the draft, free agency, even week to week estimating who will be active or who might be actived on IR…but: People honestly questioning why Murray > Fournette and second guessing McDermott and Beane’s fathomed allegiance to Murray as some egregious disregard for the uber talented Fournette is a fabricated fan-fiction. Sometimes we read too far into the tea leaves. And some are reading to far into other "medicinal" leaves. 4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: I’m guessing this was more about needing to sign other players to offset the losses on defense. More PS players when they can only escalate two per game? I suppose they could be used in rehearsals as AJ Klein was used for Steelers game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 17 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Thought I saw Christian Kirksey at Wegmans this morning. And I sat next to a guy with "Moorman" on his luggage tags on my flight to Buffalo yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Bob Jones said: Still confused. Leading up to the game, how on earth do they not ensure that they will have 53 active for the game? Only 48 players are eligible to play on game day. 5 are inactive each week and the inactives are typically reported around an hour before game time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 16 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Was clearly a disconnect with his expectations of playing time… and their perception of his current abilities … Murray has been ordinary for some time now .. so if Fournette can’t beat him out there must be something wrong with him.. Last time Murray was actually good: 2022. Last time Fournette was actually good: 2021. So ... whatever. They stuck with the guy that was there all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 And so the legend of Leonard Fournette on the Bills comes to a tragic end. Apparently the Bills coaches trusted their own judgement of what they were seeing day after day over that of the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I think Fournette was told he might be called back to the practice squad if our personnel situation stabilizes. He was released only because we have no injuries to RBs and we have so many to other positions. He might be sticking around Buffalo, or be staying in touch, in case the Bills call him back. He wants a ring, and being part of the Bills team if they win it all will be worth the wait on his part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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