Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 43 minutes ago, Einstein said: this is a classy move. the dome decision has been made, right or wrong. But props to him for the shout out for those that braved the conditions. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotSHO Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, Buffalo716 said: Not going to be hard lol Everybody from The New York times to the Wall Street journal and even the Buffalo News called it a bad deal What deal did the denizens of Minnesota get from their elected officials? Because it was early 2010s, compare in percentages not hard dollars. It was the same deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan19 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I wish he would have appreciated us enough to help with the shuttle busses back to McKinley Mall. Total crap show, drivers didn't know where pickup was after the game. We were told to go to Gate 2, which was wrong, then sent between Gates 4 and 5. Nobody knew of the shuttles over there, so people were stranded. I ended up walking the 50 minutes with my son in less than ideal conditions. I'm not sure how the shuttles could have been run any poorer than they were. Not a good look for a billion dollar franchise. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: What deal did the denizens of Minnesota get from their elected officials? Because it was early 2010s, compare in percentages not hard dollars. It was the same deal. I'm not complaining I'm pumped about the new stadium I'm saying when the deal was struck tons of media outlets were calling it a bad financial deal for taxpayers There are reports with headlines calling it the worst deal ever People are still complaining about 1.7 billion stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, spartan19 said: I wish he would have appreciated us enough to help with the shuttle busses back to McKinley Mall. Total crap show, drivers didn't know where pickup was after the game. We were told to go to Gate 2, which was wrong, then sent between Gates 4 and 5. Nobody knew of the shuttles over there, so people were stranded. I ended up walking the 50 minutes with my son in less than ideal conditions. I'm not sure how the shuttles could have been run any poorer than they were. Not a good look for a billion dollar franchise. Probably had something to do them them putting that all together in like 24 hours. Def was a junk show, but remote lots w busses often are (especially in bad weather, happens at some of the big ski resorts out West). Felt bad for people waiting in the cold for that situation… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan19 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Heitz said: Probably had something to do them them putting that all together in like 24 hours. Def was a junk show, but remote lots w busses often are (especially in bad weather, happens at some of the big ski resorts out West). Felt bad for people waiting in the cold for that situation… A simple message on the scoreboard during one of the 30 tv timeouts could have easily accomplished this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 48 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Terry is a good guy as billionaires go, its good to see he recognizes the fan base so thoroughly and regularly, was hoping he was gonna say that he was putting a roof on the new stadium 😁👍 I've said this before, Terry Pegula and his company contaminated water supplies multiple times and he did nothing about it. One contamination directly affected a hospital. This included multiple instances of using unapproved chemicals, which is not just some oversight. They even tried to shut down a documentary about the harm they were causing from the Seneca Nation. Let's just appreciate the team and not another Jim Kelly type hero worship. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 43 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Buffalonians do love it for the most part It's something we as a city and fan base have embraced for a long time I very much embraced it from my recliner yesterday! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 47 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Die hards and season ticket holders are still going if they built a closed roof stadium. Thats why what they’re doing is financially stupid. You’re eliminating fans that don’t want to sit in wet cold weather. You miss the point. Die hards and season ticket holders will go when there is NO ROOF. That's why putting a roof on is the financially stupid move. They'll get the same ticket revenue either way, so why spend the money for a roof? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 51 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Absolutely no one would be mad if they built a dome. The only thing fans would’ve complained about is if they moved downtown and eliminated tailgating. There are fans that don’t go because of cold, rain, and snow. Are you telling me that “no roof” fans wouldn’t go because it’s 68 degrees and dry inside? Why would tailgating be eliminated?? Aren't there plenty of homeowners in the downtown area that can have a "Hammer's Lot"? Wouldn't the stadium still have parking lots?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 34 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: No doubt some dont come due to the weather, and no doubt some wont because the dome will change the atmosphere. As I wrote, you cant please 80,000 people. I am one. Faithful season ticket holder for years, game days started early at tailgates …. Long days, especially when one works early Monday, and as we all got a little older, we no longer considered “embracing the elements” as a badge of honor. Most home games, preparing to deal with the weather became a central focus. I’m quite certain that the younger folk who love sitting in the elements will have a different viewpoint as they approach retirement age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 35 minutes ago, spartan19 said: I wish he would have appreciated us enough to help with the shuttle busses back to McKinley Mall. Total crap show, drivers didn't know where pickup was after the game. We were told to go to Gate 2, which was wrong, then sent between Gates 4 and 5. Nobody knew of the shuttles over there, so people were stranded. I ended up walking the 50 minutes with my son in less than ideal conditions. I'm not sure how the shuttles could have been run any poorer than they were. Not a good look for a billion dollar franchise. That sucks. I had a feeling the shuttle busses would be a total cluster given everything that was happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 41 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I would love to see a pricing breakdown. I absolutely hated his press release on the new stadium. He basically said no roof because football should be played outdoors. Hated that comment. With all due respect, it would be nice to see all sorts of financials from billion $ industries and individuals. But that’s not for us lowly people. We just live in this world, they control it. We don’t see price breakdowns from simple government funded projects, no way we’d ever see something here. 35 minutes ago, Logic said: To be fair.... ...An organization as financially lucrative as the Buffalo Bills should not need to crowdsource the snow shoveling efforts for their stadium. They ought to be able to afford to hire professional grounds maintenance professionals and put greater capital and effort into ensuring that the customers of their product who pay $150+ for seats don't have to sit on a foot of snow. But that's just like, my opinion, man... I had several friends text me, astonished how good the field and stadium looked. I think they did an admirable job! Now… I wasn’t in the stands and didn’t have to wade through a couple feet of snow to clear a seat. But when the snow stops less than 12hrs from kickoff, there’s only so much that can be done. I still say they did an awesome job in every way to pull that game off. The city, the team and the people of western New York are the standard for all other cold weather teams! 26 minutes ago, spartan19 said: I wish he would have appreciated us enough to help with the shuttle busses back to McKinley Mall. Total crap show, drivers didn't know where pickup was after the game. We were told to go to Gate 2, which was wrong, then sent between Gates 4 and 5. Nobody knew of the shuttles over there, so people were stranded. I ended up walking the 50 minutes with my son in less than ideal conditions. I'm not sure how the shuttles could have been run any poorer than they were. Not a good look for a billion dollar franchise. Agreed, and perhaps in contrast to my statement above, I think the team should just do more to game plan for the weather. Better planning, year in and year out with bus schedules clearly posted and set for every game so that just becomes a routine for some. They also need a means to more easily clear snow from the seats? Heaters throughout the stands? There’s plenty of ideas to toss out. But, it seems apparent that they should build some sort of plan into handling snow and fan access to and from the stadium into the new stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Don Otreply said: Terry is a good guy as billionaires go, its good to see he recognizes the fan base so thoroughly and regularly, was hoping he was gonna say that he was putting a roof on the new stadium 😁👍 Do you know a lot of billionaires? Have you found them to be ‘not nice’? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 57 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: No doubt some dont come due to the weather, and no doubt some wont because the dome will change the atmosphere. As I wrote, you cant please 80,000 people. Some? Try as many as 40,000 empty seats at times in some Decembers. Even in some years when those games mattered or when the team had playoff positioning locked up and it should have just been a celebration. The "some" that wouldn't show up because it's a dome aren't enough to be missed and don't put enough money in the coffer to make a difference. But what would I know as a 30 year season ticket holder who will sit out in the worst weather for 8-10 hours without taking shelter and has interacted with thousands of Bills fans at games. It's simply money left on the table. I saw zero stadium food getting consumed at the game yesterday. And nobody is buying team merchandise to carry around in weather like that. It's hard to play the in-game gaming when your hands are mittened or clutching hand warmers. The difference between teams that win/lose and are viable or not viable is likely going to be in unshared revenue earned once people are already inside the stadium. 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I'm one of them. Few years back I gave up my seasons because of a few factors, but the cold was at the top of the list. Would still love to be out there, but getting to an age where no matter how well bundled being out in it for long just destroys my body for a week. At the end of the day though, they have no motivation to spend the extra on a dome to appeal to everyone because they won't lose money. Oh, they lost MY money but someone else stepped in and is in those seats. And the world keeps spinning. If there was a dome I would go again. But without it I physically can't stand the weather. Oh, it's costing them money alright. The ticket is just part of it. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldwaide Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 27 minutes ago, Dan said: With all due respect, it would be nice to see all sorts of financials from billion $ industries and individuals. But that’s not for us lowly people. We just live in this world, they control it. We don’t see price breakdowns from simple government funded projects, no way we’d ever see something here. I had several friends text me, astonished how good the field and stadium looked. I think they did an admirable job! Now… I wasn’t in the stands and didn’t have to wade through a couple feet of snow to clear a seat. But when the snow stops less than 12hrs from kickoff, there’s only so much that can be done. I still say they did an awesome job in every way to pull that game off. The city, the team and the people of western New York are the standard for all other cold weather teams! Agreed, and perhaps in contrast to my statement above, I think the team should just do more to game plan for the weather. Better planning, year in and year out with bus schedules clearly posted and set for every game so that just becomes a routine for some. They also need a means to more easily clear snow from the seats? Heaters throughout the stands? There’s plenty of ideas to toss out. But, it seems apparent that they should build some sort of plan into handling snow and fan access to and from the stadium into the new stadium. Most, if but all cold weather teams have fans shovel out the stadium and if guess off without a hitch. Unfortunately, the snow didn't end untill a few hours before kickoff and there was this pesky travel ban in place so almost nobody could get to the stadium...it was a number of things all coming together at once that caused what happened in the stadium yesterday. In my section, at least, everyone pitched in to clear the snow as we came in. Also, that was a lot of snow, with a lot of moisture. Melting all of that would have caused huge puddles if water. Not only is that the worst for keeping feet warm, but in temps like we had yesterday, the stadium would have become a skating rink for drunk people which, while fun to watch, is a huge liability for the Bills... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 hour ago, Draconator said: This means he's taking the canopy off the new stadium, doesn't it No he decided snow canopy will only be on Bills side of field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Terry is a good guy as billionaires go That made me chuckle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 If they had heated seats the snow would've melted by game time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 49 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Do you know a lot of billionaires? Have you found them to be ‘not nice’? No, and yes, ,although I do know several millionaires, same applies, no one and I mean no one becomes a billionaire without Fuh king someone or some community over, it’s just what it is, to think otherwise is totally naive. So as I said above…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I don’t think we would have to worry about crowd noise here. I think we’d be a lot like New Orleans. That place is nuts and intimidating. Yeah...well, when half the people are there because it's free air conditioning that they don't have and get to watch a game as a bonus, I can see why. Keeps them away from all them gators too. Louisiana has more of them than Florida. Edited January 16 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, Einstein said: Win this man a Super Bowl I love this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 39 minutes ago, haroldwaide said: Most, if but all cold weather teams have fans shovel out the stadium and if guess off without a hitch. Unfortunately, the snow didn't end untill a few hours before kickoff and there was this pesky travel ban in place so almost nobody could get to the stadium...it was a number of things all coming together at once that caused what happened in the stadium yesterday. In my section, at least, everyone pitched in to clear the snow as we came in. Also, that was a lot of snow, with a lot of moisture. Melting all of that would have caused huge puddles if water. Not only is that the worst for keeping feet warm, but in temps like we had yesterday, the stadium would have become a skating rink for drunk people which, while fun to watch, is a huge liability for the Bills... Good points! 39 minutes ago, haroldwaide said: Most, if but all cold weather teams have fans shovel out the stadium and if guess off without a hitch. Unfortunately, the snow didn't end untill a few hours before kickoff and there was this pesky travel ban in place so almost nobody could get to the stadium...it was a number of things all coming together at once that caused what happened in the stadium yesterday. In my section, at least, everyone pitched in to clear the snow as we came in. Also, that was a lot of snow, with a lot of moisture. Melting all of that would have caused huge puddles if water. Not only is that the worst for keeping feet warm, but in temps like we had yesterday, the stadium would have become a skating rink for drunk people which, while fun to watch, is a huge liability for the Bills... Good points! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, spartan19 said: I wish he would have appreciated us enough to help with the shuttle busses back to McKinley Mall. Total crap show, drivers didn't know where pickup was after the game. We were told to go to Gate 2, which was wrong, then sent between Gates 4 and 5. Nobody knew of the shuttles over there, so people were stranded. I ended up walking the 50 minutes with my son in less than ideal conditions. I'm not sure how the shuttles could have been run any poorer than they were. Not a good look for a billion dollar franchise. Back in my day we weren’t so whiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Appreciate the sentiment, Terry. I loved being there. Absolute poop show on the stands, but happy I was there! Gotta be a bit critical though. Sit on the end and spent most of the game grabbing peoples hands and arms helping them up the stairs, passing them off to the guy behind me. Bunch of people with canes who barely could make it up. Bunch of people 2-3 fisting drinks and just falling all over. Got smacked a dozen or so time by idiots who chose to slide on their butts rather than navigate the steps. They had to do a better job with the steps. Dangerous. Many people fell, a buch pretty hard. I get the amount of snow, but dang…multi billion dollar business and you can’t afford to hire a crew to come in and do a better job? All right, I’ll get off my old guy soapbox….😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 hours ago, Einstein said: How dare he!!! 10 minutes ago, davefan66 said: Appreciate the sentiment, Terry. I loved being there. Absolute poop show on the stands, but happy I was there! Gotta be a bit critical though. Sit on the end and spent most of the game grabbing peoples hands and arms helping them up the stairs, passing them off to the guy behind me. Bunch of people with canes who barely could make it up. Bunch of people 2-3 fisting drinks and just falling all over. Got smacked a dozen or so time by idiots who chose to slide on their butts rather than navigate the steps. They had to do a better job with the steps. Dangerous. Many people fell, a buch pretty hard. I get the amount of snow, but dang…multi billion dollar business and you can’t afford to hire a crew to come in and do a better job? All right, I’ll get off my old guy soapbox….😎 Everyone said they should have done a better job, but was that even possible? How do you move feet of snow from hundreds of rows in 12 hours? We're lucky this game wasn't played in Atlanta and should pray they clear the next lake snow blast in time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) Pegs is a great owner. We need it long-term. He's 72, life expectancy is 77. I hope his estate transfers ownership to his children--other NFL owners have tried and failed to keep their teams in the family. Estate Tax is a B word. Edited January 16 by boater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 32 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: No, and yes, ,although I do know several millionaires, same applies, no one and I mean no one becomes a billionaire without Fuh king someone or some community over, it’s just what it is, to think otherwise is totally naive. So as I said above…, Ouch….if you say so. 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotSHO Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 15 minutes ago, davefan66 said: Appreciate the sentiment, Terry. I loved being there. Absolute poop show on the stands, but happy I was there! Gotta be a bit critical though. Sit on the end and spent most of the game grabbing peoples hands and arms helping them up the stairs, passing them off to the guy behind me. Bunch of people with canes who barely could make it up. Bunch of people 2-3 fisting drinks and just falling all over. Got smacked a dozen or so time by idiots who chose to slide on their butts rather than navigate the steps. They had to do a better job with the steps. Dangerous. Many people fell, a buch pretty hard. I get the amount of snow, but dang…multi billion dollar business and you can’t afford to hire a crew to come in and do a better job? All right, I’ll get off my old guy soapbox….😎 Yes, it was treacherous in the 300s. The stairs were a death trap. A few of the many folks that fell shook the entire concrete structure. They may want to do an integrity study on the upper deck again, it may be compromised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, saundena said: Having an open stadium presents logistical challenges when the weather turns, but overall I still say it is a competitive advantage as long as we have a QB like Josh. Tell me that if we beat the chiefs and the the Texans knock off the Ravens, that paying a warm weather dome team in Orchard Park doesn't get you excited. If that scenario plays out, it's a huge Buffalo advantage. The issue with a dome is it wouldn't prevent cancellations or moving games, it would only be a comfort thing. The only thing that would prevent that is a dome over all of WNY. Good luck with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I love the message. The fans def make a difference. Shocking to see that crowd fill in that stadium by kickoff. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: How dare he!!! Everyone said they should have done a better job, but was that even possible? How do you move feet of snow from hundreds of rows in 12 hours? We're lucky this game wasn't played in Atlanta and should pray they clear the next lake snow blast in time I heard an idea on WGR of hiring a snow removal service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: How dare he!!! Everyone said they should have done a better job, but was that even possible? How do you move feet of snow from hundreds of rows in 12 hours? We're lucky this game wasn't played in Atlanta and should pray they clear the next lake snow blast in time Send crews during the game and clean as much as possible on the steps. My sections usher is awesome! Super great dude! Dude struggled to shovel a little, then they sent him up with a full bag of salt and he tried his hardest, but couldn’t do it by himself. I got there was a lot of snow and not a lot of time. But hire a large enough crew and you can get almost anything done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, boater said: Pegs is a great owner. We need it long-term. He's 72, life expectancy is 77. I hope his estate transfers ownership to his children--other NFL owners have tried and failed to keep their teams in the family. Estate Tax is a B word. Life expectancy is affected by life style and medical care. I am sure he gets great medical care and has family to remind him to take care of himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 5 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: Yes, it was treacherous in the 300s. The stairs were a death trap. A few of the many folks that fell shook the entire concrete structure. They may want to do an integrity study on the upper deck again, it may be compromised. Yep. Felt it several times. Then they did something one the scoreboard about dancing in your seats! Shook a bit more than I liked! 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 "so GO BILLS....and GO NFL ON PEACOCK!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 If Terry wanted to thank the fans . 1/2 price for food would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Douggie Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: We are very fortunate to have wound up with him and Kim as owners, as opposed to say, JB Jovi or the Rogers Media conglomerate… Thanks Terry! Or Trump lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerstAusGosheim Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: We are very fortunate to have wound up with him and Kim as owners, as opposed to say, JB Jovi or the Rogers Media conglomerate… Thanks Terry! Bon Jovi moving the team to Toronto would have been a shot through the heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 At a net worth of 6B couldn't terry throw in another 500M for a roof ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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