FITZamishRIFLE Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier? The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did. That was garbage. QB known for not sliding getting slandered for not sliding. Can't make it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 minutes ago, PaoloBillsFanFromItaly said: There was no fake slide by Allen, but there is a point, the defender is often in a lose-lose situation when attempting to takle a QB. When Josh slowed, for sure the defenders processed "ok, he MAY slide", in that case, I could not takle him. This decision could lead to a split-second indecision and Josh is gone. I would call a late-hit on the QB only if it is blatant. In my opinion the one called on Prescott on 3&2 must be a no-call, the one on Josh is borderline. Mine is a naive opinion for a variety of reasons, but I think the whole 'QB slide' thing is nonsense anyway. If you come out to play on the battlefield, you should be fair game for defenders. Nobody is forcing you to cross the line of scrimmage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: So no comment on the fake slide? I was a cut not a fake slide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: A pump fake, juke, fake pitch...etc are all plays that by rule DO NOT require the defender to give up on the play. A slide is specificially intended to protect the QB because by rule, once he slides he has given up, and by rule the defender must also. It's not the same thing. The defender was quoted after the game saying he wasn't sure if Josh was about to slide or not....causing him to pause...and not that Josh would know or care, but said player had already been fined and suspended for a late hits already this year. The defender to Josh's front right also pretty much gives up on the play (which is his fault, didn't play to whistle) so probably also thought Josh was about to slide. Doesn't look like a guy fighting to stay in the play and make a tackle at all. Third time asking now, do you feel the same way about fake kneel downs and fake spikes? Are they as damaging to the game as a fake slide? Or are we selective in this logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: That was a juke? Sure was! If you saw something different you best stop driving at night 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 10 hours ago, Herc11 said: You are a clown. Yeah, and not one of those happy clowns; the sad kind that's prone to fits of anger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 That wasn’t a fake slide. Maybe the issue for the OP is that was a run Mahomes could never have made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 7 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said: That wasn’t a fake slide. Maybe the issue for the OP is that was a run Mahomes could never have made. Mahomes runs as if he’s about to slide on every step and that’s how he gets his yards. By the OP’s definition he would lose 15 yards on every single run. Allen runs through, over, and past people and the OP has a problem because he changed direction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 9 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Congratulations on the win. I am excited for the upcoming game adn I know the mafia is fired up to be hosting this in Buffalo. Should be a fun week leading up to the game. I'm looking forward to seeing Mahomes on the road for the first time in the playoffs. Hopefully there won't be any bad calls etc that swing the game one way or the other and it's settled on the field. Now that the game is in Buffalo for the first time in eons, it’s important that the game be fairly called. I get the sense this will be a major thrust of KC’s media/PR efforts this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier? The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did. That was garbage. cry harder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYFAN1 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I think there was no intent to "fake slide". But he thought about sliding for a moment and started the process, then realized he didn't need to and stopped. The roughing was an atrocious call. And I despise how he's always clamoring for a flag whenever a defender gets close to him. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCT Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Definitely not a fake slide. That being said, sliding (or the right of the QB to slide) DOES put defenders in a difficult position. They’re trying to stop the guy, but have to be careful. I can imagine that maybe JA doesn’t make that touchdown run if the defenders didn’t have to at least consider a slide coming. I also frequently see defenders awkwardly diving over sliding quarterbacks to avoid the late hit, which always looks like injury risk to me. All that said, it’s an observation and I don’t personally see a solution or rule adjustment possibility. Take away the QBs right to slide and he’s gonna get his head taken off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier? The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did. That was garbage. A blatant fake slide? JA17 in a full sprint has to make a move/decision. He chose to split the defenders and run through them. Like he usually does. TD 🙌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schick Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 9 minutes ago, WNYFAN1 said: I think there was no intent to "fake slide". But he thought about sliding for a moment and started the process, then realized he didn't need to and stopped. The roughing was an atrocious call. And I despise how he's always clamoring for a flag whenever a defender gets close to him. That roughing call is made 100 out of 100 times. You may not like it, but it wasn’t an atrocious call. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier? The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did. That was garbage. you deserve every milligram of abuse for this crazy troll thread. there isn't even a hint of a "fake slide" on that run. enjoy your lumps 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 The Chiefs fan has been on here whinging about this one play for 7 hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Anybody complaining about the roughing call just doesn't know what they're talking about. That's drawing a flag every single time, and you see at least play like that every week if you watch non-Bills football. There's just nothing at all controversial about that one. Yes, Josh occasionally draws the soft personal foul, but that wasn't one of those. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 The best part is watching the fan base of every team we could potentially play in the playoffs whine incessantly about anything that somehow could be construed to benefit us. It’s fear. Miami was afraid, Pittsburgh was afraid, now KC is afraid. Next week it’ll be Baltimore or Houston. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 12 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier? The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did. That was garbage. Get used to it… JA got the refs in his pocket now and the NFL is rigged for the Bills this year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Kind of looked like a fake slide at first but then I watched the replay and it appears he slipped and was doing a juke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 15 minutes ago, TH3 said: Get used to it… JA got the refs in his pocket now and the NFL is rigged for the Bills this year! People just hate it when the script is isn't centered around their team Edited January 16 by LeGOATski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 12 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier? The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did. That was garbage. Pay attention. It was not a fake slide. The personal foul called on his slide was as obvious a call as I have ever seen. You have always been a decent contributor. Are you going into full Chiefs fan whiner mode now? Following that wuss Mahomes’ example? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 3 minutes ago, FLFan said: Pay attention. It was not a fake slide. The personal foul called on his slide was as obvious a call as I have ever seen. You have always been a decent contributor. Are you going into full Chiefs fan whiner mode now? Following that wuss Mahomes’ example? He's always been a whiner, just good at keeping it under a veil. This is someone who has no life looking for attention on another team's message board. The mods should delete this garbage thread. Edited January 16 by LeGOATski 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 The woman on Good Morning Football this morning made a comment about the "fake" slide too but I didn't see it that way. He was sort of in-between and quickly was figuring out should he go down or keep running...he never faked sliding, he was upright the entire time. They also commented on how Mahomes did similar against Miami, the defender let up by the sidelines to not hit him and Mahomes kept running for another 10-12 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, zow2 said: The woman on Good Morning Football this morning made a comment about the "fake" slide too but I didn't see it that way. He was sort of in-between and quickly was figuring out should he go down or keep running...he never faked sliding, he was upright the entire time. They also commented on how Mahomes did similar against Miami, the defender let up by the sidelines to not hit him and Mahomes kept running for another 10-12 yards. A good clean hit on a star QB is arguably worth the penalty. if you get it just right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, zow2 said: The woman on Good Morning Football this morning made a comment about the "fake" slide too but I didn't see it that way. He was sort of in-between and quickly was figuring out should he go down or keep running...he never faked sliding, he was upright the entire time. They also commented on how Mahomes did similar against Miami, the defender let up by the sidelines to not hit him and Mahomes kept running for another 10-12 yards. And I'm sure @Zerovoltzcalled that a garbage play by Mahomes. Should no doubt be a penalty, right @Zerovoltz? So much garbage Since there is way too much garbage in here, can the mods take out the trash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 100% juke 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billrooter Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 12 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier? The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did. That was garbage. Wahhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 12 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier? The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did. That was garbage. You're drunk. Go home 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, aceman_16 said: You're drunk. Go home He's not drunk He's just garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 6 minutes ago, x-BillzeBubba said: 100% juke imagine those that actually believe that was an attempt at a fake slide. open your 👀 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) That Pitt player is still on the field looking for his jock. Edited January 16 by Wacka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 The blatant fake slide aka juking a guy out of his shoes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 19 minutes ago, x-BillzeBubba said: 100% juke Fake slide my arse.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 12 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier? The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did. That was garbage. you need to show us where Josh faked a slide. He was letting his blockers set up and then turned on the jets 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 13 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier? The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did. That was garbage. You generally make sense. Not here. He was faking but not fake sliding. He didn't fake going down, he faked direction, and he slowed up to set up the blocks and make the defenders commit. He may well have considered going down there, but there's nothing wrong with that. Agree that fake slides should draw penalties, though. It's tough enough on defenders. Doubt it will ever happen, though. Edited January 16 by Thurman#1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Josh should have been penalized for unnecessary roughness for breaking both of Damontae Kazee's ankles on that play. Also, I'm convinced that the roughing the passer on Josh's actual slide was a genius bit of baiting by Allen. He sure looked like he could have gotten the first down....but he saw the Defender coming at him and laid right down under him. Boom--15 yards. It was brilliant. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 My answer to this clown is: So what? Got 6 points out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Avenger Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 What even IS a "fake slide"? A running QB isn't allowed to hesitate or move laterally, they just need to run straight forward at full speed or be flagged? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 13 hours ago, Zerovoltz said: Allen with the blatant fake slide on the long run, then later draws a 15 yard penalty on a late hit on slide where the defender didn't hit his head.....but can you blame him for going for the tackle based on the fake earlier? The slide is a play intended to protect the QB, not to do what Allen did. That was garbage. @Zerovoltz I was your fiftieth laugh emoji. Metrics indicate that you should consider comedy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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