Casey D Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Pats are mostly worried about draft position if you read Boston papers. They are desperate to lose and hope Commodores beat SF. 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 This is going to be a tough game tomorrow. It’s Belichick and he can make your life miserable. We were born deserving the playoffs and super bowls so I don’t want to hear that mess whether we win or lose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, Casey D said: Pats are mostly worried about draft position if you read Boston papers. They are desperate to lose and hope Commodores beat SF. 😃 I guaran-damn-tee you Belichick doesn’t give a rat’s ass about draft position, and neither do his players. That stuff is for fans and the media. 7 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Im more worried about Baltimore beating Miami than us beating the Pats. We will beat the Pats. I want the division. And I’m very happy the Browns won Thursday night in that regard…if Baltimore loses to Miami then Cleveland could beat them in W18 for the division. Thus, the Ravens are extra motivated for this game — it is truly for both the division and #1 seed, and they could lose both if they falter. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 29 minutes ago, Casey D said: Pats are mostly worried about draft position if you read Boston papers. They are desperate to lose and hope Commodores beat SF. 😃 Not the players. They celebrated beating the Broncos like they had won a playoff game. Zappe is playing to be the starter next year and Belichick would like nothing more than to win some meaningless games on his way out of the door to stick it to Kraft. Every single layer on that team is playing for a contract. I expect the Bills to get the Pats best effort. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Low Positive said: Not the players. They celebrated beating the Broncos like they had won a playoff game. Zappe is playing to be the starter next year and Belichick would like nothing more than to win some meaningless games on his way out of the door to stick it to Kraft. Every single layer on that team is playing for a contract. I expect the Bills to get the Pats best effort. The Pats best effort ain't enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, eball said: I guaran-damn-tee you Belichick doesn’t give a rat’s ass about draft position, and neither do his players. That stuff is for fans and the media. And I’m very happy the Browns won Thursday night in that regard…if Baltimore loses to Miami then Cleveland could beat them in W18 for the division. Thus, the Ravens are extra motivated for this game — it is truly for both the division and #1 seed, and they could lose both if they falter. All true, BUT… if there is any team with worse season-ending play when everything is on the line, it’s Miami. Neither win when the need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/27/2023 at 6:15 PM, Simon said: Today was a walk-through. Even when Jones does get back on the field, he's just not going to be the same guy we saw at the beginning of the year. True enough, but I suspect we will see a flash or two…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 11 hours ago, Bferra13 said: Mac Jones went 25 for 30 for 300 and 2tds 0 ints... literally the game of his career. We pissed down our leg the whole game and still should have won. I dont see Zappe repeating that performance, nor do I see the Bills repeating that horrendous performance at home. Easy win. In the 2-3 weeks previous we'd lost 2-3 of our best starters on defense, I don't think we're in the same situation of trying to figure out how to patch the gaping holes leaking in that ship. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 On 12/27/2023 at 9:18 PM, Ray Stonada said: I would say Josh can’t throw quick screens but the WR screen used to work well with John Brown. He had that sudden burst which made it work. screen passes oddly have not been a strong point for Josh, even with Brown it only worked occasionally, the offense as a whole doesn’t set them up well and our opponents see it coming… GO BILLS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Can we send Dalton on some medium and deep routes already? The dude is a mismatch, being relegated to catching 4 yard dump offs. We traded up for more than 4 yards and a patch of dust. Man- send Cook and Dalton out same time- how is a team supposed to cover when Bills O pieces are used optimally? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: screen passes oddly have not been a strong point for Josh, even with Brown it only worked occasionally, the offense as a whole doesn’t set them up well and our opponents see it coming… GO BILLS!!! Eric Wood talked about this...how when he was our C under Chan Gailey where the screen game worked well, he said the team spent a lot of time practicing them to get the timing down It's not necessarily on Josh at all, though it's been true since before he was drafted that the short throws to the flat have been the most troublesome for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Eric Wood talked about this...how when he was our C under Chan Gailey where the screen game worked well, he said the team spent a lot of time practicing them to get the timing down It's not necessarily on Josh at all, though it's been true since before he was drafted that the short throws to the flat have been the most troublesome for him. It’s a combination of play set up, and execution on the player’s behalf, practicing the concept would of course be beneficial, at this point it is what it is, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 NFLN is playing Sept 2023 pats vs bills game right now sat 11:20am. Hard to watch! So weird to have any rando bills game rebroadcasted… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Warcodered said: In the 2-3 weeks previous we'd lost 2-3 of our best starters on defense, I don't think we're in the same situation of trying to figure out how to patch the gaping holes leaking in that ship. Correct. And it wasn't just those 2-3 starters. On DL we had Settle, Jordan Phillips, Poona Ford, and Kendal Vickers. We released Vickers shortly after that game. At LB we had Bernard and Dorian Williams, followed by Dodson. The young LB got totally played by Belicheck. At DB we had Jackson and Benford I feel a lot better about a DL of Big Ed and DaQuan, even if we do see a lot of Settle and Ford. I also feel better about Rasul Douglas and Benford. At LB, both Dodson and Williams have developed and improved since that game and Bernard has no game-day status so we'll hope we're good to go on D My biggest concern is that Belicheck is going to treat this as his Superbowl and pull out ALL the stops with trickery and deception. 7 hours ago, freddyjj said: Bourne tore ACL and is on IR. And Ju Ju Smith Schuster will miss 3rd game in a row due to ankle injury. Yes, I missed Bourne tearing his ACL. The OP to which I responded was asking with TikTok Boy out, who the Cheats** had at receiver. My point was even if they had him, he hasn't been very productive to them. 7 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: It’s a combination of play set up, and execution on the player’s behalf, practicing the concept would of course be beneficial, at this point it is what it is, The point is, on a screen play, timing is key; individual player execution can't make it work, they need to practice together. Edited December 30, 2023 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, KCNC said: The way I look at it is, if the Bills can't win that game tomorrow, they don't deserve the playoffs anyway. They need to be all business tomorrow. I still don’t get this…the chiefs absolutely should’ve lost to the 4-11 drew lock led broncos in week 17 last year but got immensely lucky that the broncos had a fumble six in the red zone and they ended up winning the Super Bowl Edited December 30, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Correct. And it wasn't just those 2-3 starters. On DL we had Settle, Jordan Phillips, Poona Ford, and Kendal Vickers. We released Vickers shortly after that game. At LB we had Bernard and Dorian Williams, followed by Dodson. The young LB got totally played by Belicheck. At DB we had Jackson and Benford I feel a lot better about a DL of Big Ed and DaQuan, even if we do see a lot of Settle and Ford. I also feel better about Rasul Douglas and Benford. At LB, both Dodson and Williams have developed and improved since that game and Bernard has no game-day status so we'll hope we're good to go on D My biggest concern is that Belicheck is going to treat this as his Superbowl and pull out ALL the stops with trickery and deception. Yes, I missed Bourne tearing his ACL. The OP to which I responded was asking with TikTok Boy out, who the Cheats** had at receiver. My point was even if they had him, he hasn't been very productive to them. The point is, on a screen play, timing is key; individual player execution can't make it work, they need to practice together. It’s all those things, execution by the players is what makes and breaks a well set up practiced play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 11 hours ago, Bferra13 said: Mac Jones went 25 for 30 for 300 and 2tds 0 ints... literally the game of his career. We pissed down our leg the whole game and still should have won. I dont see Zappe repeating that performance, nor do I see the Bills repeating that horrendous performance at home. Easy win. It was those defensive injuries from the jags game…we were the 32nd ranked dvoa defense in that 4 game stretch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bills!Win! Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) If/when the bills win tomorrow they are 8-0 at home if not for too many men on the field also. This is our first 1pm game since the last time we played the patriots Edited December 30, 2023 by Bills!Win! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Just set up the second 55” TV next to my living room TV. The dolphins game is 89%* as important as the actual Bills game so I’m going full NFL loser fan mode and setting up two TVs. *according to the two digits I decided to type at the moment. 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 23 hours ago, Pete said: Last I heard, AJs ribs are clicking. What a super tough dude! I struggled to sit on my couch with a rib issue. I couldn’t imagine playing football with one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Game Predictions | Bills vs. Patriots | Week 17 Here's a list of additional notes for this week ... With a win, the Bills will set a franchise record with their fifth consecutive 10-win season The Patriots are attempting to win consecutive games for the first time in 2023 The Bills have won 13 consecutive regular season games in December/January Since 2020, the Bills are 9-1 at Highmark Stadium in December/January Bills are 16-0 since 2020 when Josh Allen does not have a turnover With a loss, Bill Belichick will record 12 losses in a season for the first time as a head coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I'm expecting our offense to dominate, Bellycheck to get fired and the defense to daze and confuse their QB....what's his name? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Don Otreply said: screen passes oddly have not been a strong point for Josh, even with Brown it only worked occasionally, the offense as a whole doesn’t set them up well and our opponents see it coming… GO BILLS!!! The Bills have struggled with screens for years. Oh, for the days when Thurman would crush teams on screen plays. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I want to crush the pats and the fins clown shows so badly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: With a loss, Bill Belichick will record 12 losses in a season for the first time as a head coach Most important part with a win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Peppers being out is a big loss. 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Peppers being out is a big loss. Their season is done. Good opportunity for backups to get reps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 50 minutes ago, Toledo Bill said: The Bills have struggled with screens for years. Oh, for the days when Thurman would crush teams on screen plays. Oh, for the days when we had an O Line that could execute them like the one that Thurman enjoyed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, K-9 said: Oh, for the days when we had an O Line that could execute them like the one that Thurman enjoyed. There was one game against Miami where I swear we ran 10 screens and they all worked great. Agreed, it was Thurman and a great line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Peppers being out is a big loss. Not only from a talent standpoint is it a big loss for New England, but this dude is one of the hardest hitters in the NFL. I would go as far to say almost an Atwater style impact. That is a LOT of bumps, bruises and possible injuries that our WRs will not have the following week against the Dolphins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pete said: Can we send Dalton on some medium and deep routes already? The dude is a mismatch, being relegated to catching 4 yard dump offs. We traded up for more than 4 yards and a patch of dust. Man- send Cook and Dalton out same time- how is a team supposed to cover when Bills O pieces are used optimally? One thing Brady likes to do is Kincaid/Diggs to the boundary and work two man combinations. We just never seem to be able to, or focus on, pushing the ball downfield to him. Edited December 30, 2023 by EmotionallyUnstable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Peppers being out is a big loss. That's a shame. Too lazy to insert gif. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Marangi Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: That's a shame. Too lazy to insert gif. I have some energy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 • Khalil and the Bills should be applauded for what they do for Veterans • Josh 16-0 when he doesn't turn it over. Simple math Josh. •Having Peppers out will help to a small degree • 5 straight 10+ win seasons would be fantastic 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 7 hours ago, eball said: I guaran-damn-tee you Belichick doesn’t give a rat’s ass about draft position, and neither do his players. That stuff is for fans and the media. And I’m very happy the Browns won Thursday night in that regard…if Baltimore loses to Miami then Cleveland could beat them in W18 for the division. Thus, the Ravens are extra motivated for this game — it is truly for both the division and #1 seed, and they could lose both if they falter. Thats true but they would have been motivated anyways. Ravens would have been playing against Miami for the 1 seed at that point with Miami being the only team that could really take it from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Ravens are extra motivated f So glad December played out this way. It would have sucked if Ravens didn’t need this game. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 I want the bills to win the division and Miami to lose tomorrow, but I kinda hate playing for the division a week before the playoffs start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Steptide said: I want the bills to win the division and Miami to lose tomorrow, but I kinda hate playing for the division a week before the playoffs start. IMO it is a playoff game if the Division is on the line. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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