Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Is it just me, or do we have a disproportionate number of opening season heartbreakers? I am not talking just losses; I mean buzzer-beater type losses. to name a few: 1) 2002: also lost on the last play of the game to the jets. Chad Morton 100 yard KO return in OT. 2) 2004: lost on last play of the game against Jags— big 4th and long conversion, and then Ernest wildfire catches the GW TD with a few seconds left on a force-out call. 3) 2007: Broncos win on GW FG, where Jason Elam ran onto the field to kick it and the announcers were screaming there wasn’t going to be enough time left. 4) 2009: McKelvin fumble in the last minute on a KO return, which led to patriots 1-point victory. 5) 2013: patriots kick GW FG with 4 seconds left to win by 2 points 6) 2023: jets punt return in OT to win it. These are just ones in my recent memory. I suspect there are even more…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 From my years of watching this team, I'd bet you could come up with a similar list for any given week in the season. Lots of teams lose games. Nobody loses them quite like the Bills. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Well let’s just say last night was rather billsy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, QB Bills said: From my years of watching this team, I'd bet you could come up with a similar list for any given week in the season. Lots of teams lose games. Nobody loses them quite like the Bills. That's literally not true at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Well, the Bills sucked as a team for most of those games. They are a good team now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2021 vs Steelers wasn't a last second loss, but it did have a lot of similarities to last nights game. Including allowing a special teams TD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I think you can remove "season opening" from the thread title. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Snake bit? Eh maybe. I just can’t believe how many ways we can come up with to CHOKE games. So I guess we’re creatively snake bit😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, QB Bills said: From my years of watching this team, I'd bet you could come up with a similar list for any given week in the season. Lots of teams lose games. Nobody loses them quite like the Bills. Only in a world where the Cleveland Browns don't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Disproportionate amount of weird losses period I mean who loses on a walk off punt return lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Also 2021. A bad Steelers team smacked us around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bklnpete Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, QB Bills said: From my years of watching this team, I'd bet you could come up with a similar list for any given week in the season. Lots of teams lose games. Nobody loses them quite like the Bills. This 👌🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2022 wasn't so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) Do we still lose if Wilson doesn't make e an amazing catch? I doubt it but who knows. I physically throw up after the game. Yet today it's more clear to me that we lost to a good defense in the Jets much like last year. Yet last year we also went 13-2 against the rest of the league. I'm upset but the sky isn't falling yet. Edited September 12, 2023 by The Jokeman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 There is no balance. It's a weird thing about the Bills. And it's not just opening day. Most fans around the league can name some of the more prominent ones. But there is a very short list of corresponding flukey/weird endings that went the Bills' way. It's just disproportionate. I'd be okay losing the occasional heartbreaker, if we also won 1 or 2 along the way. The vast majority of time, we're on the losing end of these kinds of games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Not just opening season heartbreakers, how about games that are memorable for the entire country, and they always end in Buffalo losses?!? Just in the last couple years, everyone will remember the game when Aaron Rodgers with all the build up had a 4 play season. And we Lost! Last season the Minnesota game was voted the game of the year, so many chances to win and we Lost! The KC 13 second game was legendary, and we Lost! There are plenty more over the years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty shackleford Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Wasn't season opening but the Bills vs Cowboys MNF in 2007 was one of the most billsy losses we had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: I think you can remove "season opening" from the thread title. 23 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Disproportionate amount of weird losses period I mean who loses on a walk off punt return lol I mean, I am only talking about season openers. No doubt we have had a lot of other bad losses too. But this is such a high number to lose this way on the first week of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Maybe. Maybe not. They have a slew of walk off/ somewhat incomprehensible losses during the McD tenure all starting with the Houston playoff loss. As do all teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 The Bills have also WON their share of last second games. The most recent I can think of was the Thanksgiving game against Detroit last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I can’t be bothered looking it up … but seems a while since they won a game in OT.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) That's true. They said last night that Allen is 0-5 in OT games in his NFL career, so it's been a while for sure. Another last-second WIN that came to mind was at Baltimore last season. Of course, I am talking in general, whereas the original thread was about season opening games. Last year's opener at the Rams (which I was able to attend in person) was a whole lot more enjoyable than the debacle that was last night. Edited September 12, 2023 by msw2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: Do we still lose if Wilson doesn't make e an amazing catch? I doubt it but who knows. I physically throw up after the game. Yet today it's more clear to me that we lost to a good defense in the Jets much like last year. Yet last year we also went 13-2 against the rest of the league. I'm upset but the sky isn't falling yet. No the sky isn't falling but when you keep making all the dumb mistakes over and over again it gets old. I can care less if Josh doesn't enjoy being patient on the football field taking the easy stuff he's given. If he needs his sugar high plays he can save those till after they build a big enough lead they can cover any bone headed plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 36 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I can’t be bothered looking it up … but seems a while since they won a game in OT.. I think Allen is 0-for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Is it just me, or do we have a disproportionate number of opening season heartbreakers? I am not talking just losses; I mean buzzer-beater type losses. to name a few: 1) 2002: also lost on the last play of the game to the jets. Chad Morton 100 yard KO return in OT. 2) 2004: lost on last play of the game against Jags— big 4th and long conversion, and then Ernest wildfire catches the GW TD with a few seconds left on a force-out call. 3) 2007: Broncos win on GW FG, where Jason Elam ran onto the field to kick it and the announcers were screaming there wasn’t going to be enough time left. 4) 2009: McKelvin fumble in the last minute on a KO return, which led to patriots 1-point victory. 5) 2013: patriots kick GW FG with 4 seconds left to win by 2 points 6) 2023: jets punt return in OT to win it. These are just ones in my recent memory. I suspect there are even more…. Off the top my head to counter that they had a few pretty good exciting last minute wins on opening day: 1988 or 1989 Kelly ran in the last TD against the Dolphins with no time left 1995 Bills held off the Patriots deep in their red zone to win 1996 beat the NY Giants in NJ in Overtime. I remember a great Kelly to Reed TD 2000 beat and hold off the Titans after the Music City Miracle. The Titans kicker missed at the end of regulation to tie the game 2014 Beat Da Bears in OT. Freddie had that famous run where he ran over that Bears defender Edited September 13, 2023 by Another Fan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 13, 2023 Author Share Posted September 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Another Fan said: Off the top my head to counter that they had a few pretty good exciting last minute wins on opening day: 1988 or 1989 Kelly ran in the last TD against the Dolphins with no time left 1995 Bills held off the Patriots deep in their red zone to win 1996 beat the NY Giants in NJ in Overtime. I remember a great Kelly to Reed TD 2000 beat and hold off the Titans after the Music City Miracle. The Titans kicker missed at the end of regulation to tie the game 2014 Beat Da Bears in OT. Freddie had that famous run where he ran over that Bears defender you are always coming in half glass full!! Love it! I will say that that 1989 dolphins/Bills opener was one of the most memorable plays of my childhood. I still remember running around my house as an 11-year old kid, going nuts after Kelly scored. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 1979 Tom Dempsey misses a chip shot FG from 34 yards as the clock strikes 00:00. Dolphins 9, Bills 7 Dolphins extend their winning streak to 19 games over the BIlls. Edited September 13, 2023 by Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 4 hours ago, ScottLaw said: No they don’t…. The Bills are turning into the Dan Quinn Falcons. That's BS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) No Buffalo is cursed. The whole place was erected on the western door Seneca Nation burial grounds Also, this is an interesting read: https://www.newyorkalmanack.com/2022/12/the-buffalo-sports-curse-120-years-of-disappointment/#:~:text=The Curse can be traced,an American League Baseball franchise. Edited September 13, 2023 by Coldfronts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phils n Bills Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 According to your list, the last time the bills had a rough opening season loss was in 2013, 10 years ago. I wouldn’t consider that snake bitten. we’ve had our share of fun wins in the interim. Last years opener was about as excited as I could’ve been as a bills fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcamino Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Is it just me, or do we have a disproportionate number of opening season heartbreakers? I am not talking just losses; I mean buzzer-beater type losses. to name a few: 1) 2002: also lost on the last play of the game to the jets. Chad Morton 100 yard KO return in OT. 2) 2004: lost on last play of the game against Jags— big 4th and long conversion, and then Ernest wildfire catches the GW TD with a few seconds left on a force-out call. 3) 2007: Broncos win on GW FG, where Jason Elam ran onto the field to kick it and the announcers were screaming there wasn’t going to be enough time left. 4) 2009: McKelvin fumble in the last minute on a KO return, which led to patriots 1-point victory. 5) 2013: patriots kick GW FG with 4 seconds left to win by 2 points 6) 2023: jets punt return in OT to win it. These are just ones in my recent memory. I suspect there are even more…. 7) 1998: Flutie in his first game as a Bill comes in for injured Rob Johnson (also first game as a Bill) in the second half down 16-0 in San Diego. Flutie Throws 2 TDs to Reed and then drives us down to a 39yd FG to win it on the last play. Christie shanks it. Bills lose 16-14. adding insult to injury, it was Ryan Leafs first NFL game and damn near his only win. Edited September 13, 2023 by Hellcamino spelling error 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 13 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: I can’t be bothered looking it up … but seems a while since they won a game in OT.. Looked it up yesterday McD is 1-4 in OT games, Allen is 0-4 in OT games. Obviously you can take off 13 seconds game vs KC as the BS that it was but the Houston playoff game, the TB loss to Brady, the Minni debacle last year and this years turd vs Jets are not a good trend. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 15 hours ago, QB Bills said: From my years of watching this team, I'd bet you could come up with a similar list for any given week in the season. Lots of teams lose games. Nobody loses them quite like the Bills. I said the same thing we sure know how to lose good - if that is such a thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 14 hours ago, msw2112 said: The Bills have also WON their share of last second games. The most recent I can think of was the Thanksgiving game against Detroit last year. This is true, they do win some close games. For whatever reason they don't seem to be the wild, whacky back and forth games and crazy scenarios that the entire country gets riveted by and is the talk of the NFL the next day. I mean this latest example. What other team would get the benefit of a Hall of Fame QB rupturing his Achilles 4 plays in, and then they go on to lose a memorable heart breaker to a backup QB who was the joke of the league? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, zow2 said: This is true, they do win some close games. For whatever reason they don't seem to be the wild, whacky back and forth games and crazy scenarios that the entire country gets riveted by and is the talk of the NFL the next day. I mean this latest example. What other team would get the benefit of a Hall of Fame QB rupturing his Achilles 4 plays in, and then they go on to lose a memorable heart breaker to a backup QB who was the joke of the league? This is very true. I can instantly think of 13 seconds, Jets punt return, Minnesota fumble debacle, and hail Murray. Those are freak occurrences, and brutal losses, all under the same regime. I’ve been a huge McD fan, so I don’t like being critical, but these types of losses in such quantities aren’t acceptable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 13 hours ago, Beast said: 1979 Tom Dempsey misses a chip shot FG from 34 yards as the clock strikes 00:00. Dolphins 9, Bills 7 Dolphins extend their winning streak to 19 games over the BIlls. That kick occurred in a blinding rainstorm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 CBS Sports had a great read on how snake bitten the Jets are as a franchise with QBs. I forgot that the Jets had great expectations for a 1999 campaign, after reaching the championship game in 1998. Much like 2023, it imploded in the first game when Vinny Testaverde, who went to the Pro Bowl in 1998, tore his Achilles in the second quarter against the Patriots. The Jets would finish 8-8, trotting out several quarterbacks through the season. Also in the 1999 campaign, the Bills lost their opener to the Colts, getting their doors blown off 31-14. Flutie had a terrible game, going 22-42 for 300 yards, with 2 picks, and five sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Hellcamino said: 7) 1998: Flutie in his first game as a Bill comes in for injured Rob Johnson (also first game as a Bill) in the second half down 16-0 in San Diego. Flutie Throws 2 TDs to Reed and then drives us down to a 39yd FG to win it on the last play. Christie shanks it. Bills lose 16-14. adding insult to injury, it was Ryan Leafs first NFL game and damn near his only win. and if I recall correctly Leaf's stat line was almost identical to Peyton Manning's in both of their first games played yet think the Colts lost. 34 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: This is very true. I can instantly think of 13 seconds, Jets punt return, Minnesota fumble debacle, and hail Murray. Those are freak occurrences, and brutal losses, all under the same regime. I’ve been a huge McD fan, so I don’t like being critical, but these types of losses in such quantities aren’t acceptable. To me the game changing play was Wilson's finger tip bouncing the ball back in his hands for the TD. Just a crazy catch as 8 out of 10 times I doubt he can do that again. Edited September 13, 2023 by The Jokeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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