Dan in Owego Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: That's who I compared him to on draft day Maybe they can still coach him into a well-rounded CB, but this is frustrating. Still, is he really so bad that he's inactive? If a CB goes down with injury, it'd be nice to have Elam as depth. Don't be frustrated I really really think we got something in Benford season has started either Elam comes o n our he doesn't season doesn't hang on him period full stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I’m 1000000% sure it’s the tackling. his tackling really isn’t that bad…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 This all doesn't make any sense to me. Why did we drafted him if he doesn't fit, how is it possible that we are not able to fit him when he is on the team, why he wasn't playing more last year (I thought he was pretty good) and how can he be CB4 right now. It's just weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 He has the talent. He was good when he played last year. This feels like a personality/process/scheme thing (not all the same things - but close enough). And if that's the case, it reflects more on the staff than on him. There are situations in the league where he would likely thrive with his skillset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: his tackling really isn’t that bad…. Benford is his equal or most likely better in coverage at the moment and he is an elite tackler - playing Cook and Hall we’re going to need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 I’m willing to see how the dbs play tonight and whether he plays in the next few weeks before I complain. Same for Bernard. I mean, we haven’t even kicked off our season yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 This is an Epic failure by the organization. Spend a 1st round pick on a CB that excels in press man, when we're predominantly a zone team. Also, every team mixes in zone and man. They haven't been able to tweak the defense a bit, to use his skill set? Multiple times, I saw Elam last year stick to Tyreek like glue. You mean to tell me, that guy is not good enough to be one of the 46? Crazy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 Can he play wr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Allen2Moulds said: This is an Epic failure by the organization. Spend a 1st round pick on a CB that excels in press man, when we're predominantly a zone team. Also, every team mixes in zone and man. They haven't been able to tweak the defense a bit, to use his skill set? Multiple times, I saw Elam last year stick to Tyreek like glue. You mean to tell me, that guy is not good enough to be one of the 46? Crazy! He can only stick to Tyreek apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 Little sad for him as we all hope draft picks pan out for the team but there has to be more to this. May not agree with the reasoning or logic not using him but would probably understand. Going more in depth to that draft and what we were targeting… McDuffie looks legit. Don’t grumble with the Chiefs as a rival but that selection 2 before Elam stings a little more after his play Thursday coupled with this. Hoping for a positive change in his contributions moving forward! 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I’m 1000000% sure it’s the tackling. You’re clinging to a pre-draft narrative that isn’t true anymore. Elam had a lower missed tackle rate than both Dane and Benford last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 Mentioned in another thread as well, but I think it is clear that the coaching staff is not high on Elam. He is probably the 5th CB after Tre, Benford, Taron, and Dane. We drafted him knowing that he has never played a down of zone and then threw him into a zone-heavy offense. And I believe that affected him mentally as well. In fact, during an interview a few weeks ago he said: "I stayed up nights trying to figure how to make plays playing zone" last season. It’s unfortunate because in the draft we acquired Elam, KC traded in front of us to acquire Trent McDuffie, who looks like an absolute stud so far. I know there are people who don’t believe we would have drafted McDuffie even if he were there. I hope that isn’t true, because he clearly was the right choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 If we could find a Jerry Hughes/Kelvin Sheppard trade scenario where the 2 do not fit the scheme they where drafted into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 11, 2023 Share Posted September 11, 2023 disappointing …. Hopefully someone likes him and they can get some value out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 58 minutes ago, stinky finger said: I can't imagine what a viable 1st round selection might contribute in a game like tonight. Unfortunately, we’re be seeing one tonight shortly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I’m expecting him to be traded by Halloween. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said: This is an Epic failure by the organization. Spend a 1st round pick on a CB that excels in press man, when we're predominantly a zone team. Also, every team mixes in zone and man. They haven't been able to tweak the defense a bit, to use his skill set? Multiple times, I saw Elam last year stick to Tyreek like glue. You mean to tell me, that guy is not good enough to be one of the 46? Crazy! This x100. It’s why I’m about done with this regime and want to see a new injection of life. I was hopeful McDermott would change the defense and was thrilled to see frazier go but sounds like we’re playing the same old lazy defense and playing 10 yards off guys on 3rd and 9 instead of mixing stuff up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Thank god for Josh Allen. 1 great pick washes away a lot of draft sins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeavercreekBillsFan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Thank god for Josh Allen. Only thing keeping this franchise alive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Thank god for Josh Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Patience… we will need him, injuries will happen. He will get a chance to shine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I think they’re handling the situation all wrong with this guy they’re gonna end up killing his confidence 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: A little more context for the post. This is per the Bills app: The Bills are listing the following players as INACTIVE for Monday night at the Jets: S Damar Hamlin CB Kaiir Elam DE Kingsley Jonathan OL Germain Ifedi OL Alec Anderson Jonathan being out was odd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Jonathan being out was odd Who should have been inactive Floyd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: Who should have been inactive Floyd? no idea. ha. clearly not Floyd Edited September 12, 2023 by RyanC883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Elam is a perfect example of a talented player not fitting what the coach wants. Reporters want to ask Beane about Elam they are better off asking McDermott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I'm disappointed in this. Trade him They have to run his value all the way into the ground first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 So are we expecting this to be a theme? Seems like Benford is entrenched as CB2 for the time being…but Elam not even active for situational usage? yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: So are we expecting this to be a theme? Seems like Benford is entrenched as CB2 for the time being…but Elam not even active for situational usage? yikes. Should be a theme until right up until October 31st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: So are we expecting this to be a theme? Seems like Benford is entrenched as CB2 for the time being…but Elam not even active for situational usage? yikes. I'd guess it was because the Bills ended up running zones all night long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 On 9/11/2023 at 8:15 PM, John from Riverside said: I think they’re handling the situation all wrong with this guy they’re gonna end up killing his confidence I mean Benford and Dane beat him out. And McD is known and proven to have an excellent eye for secondary talent. Thought Benford had a great game, hope he stays healthy , he could have a big year It is what it is. Idc if they're a 1st rder or Undrafted , put your best on the field. Elam is physically very gifted, hopefully he'll develop with his zone coverage but a great insurance policy to have. Just disappointed we drafted him so high considering the success of Benford-6th rd. Taron - 4th rd . Dane - 7th rd and even Levi Wallace - Undrafted. Feel like they just panicked with Tre being out 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Hamlin can play ball too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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