Big Blitz Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 This will be interesting because he wants to get paid, so not only do they need to compensate the Colts, but they will need to pay him and I am guessing he is going to expect $10M+ even though he is coming off injury and won't be playing behind that great OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 How long before the Bills are automatically linked to him? 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Good grief! Here we go, how many pages will this run? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: This will be interesting because he wants to get paid, so not only do they need to compensate the Colts, but they will need to pay him and I am guessing he is going to expect $10M+ even though he is coming off injury and won't be playing behind that great OL. Teams with QBs on rookie deals for 3+ years make sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Bills simply can’t afford this in terms of both the cap and the compensation. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Someone may as well say it - can he play MLB? 1 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Teams with QBs on rookie deals for 3+ years make sense. Yeah I agree, that makes the most sense. But thinking about it, how many of those scenarios are out there who also have the need for a RB? Off the top of my head, the only team I think it could make some sense for is Bears, but they they just drafted Roschon and have a couple good vets there too that they like. They didn't show any interest in Dalvin Cook who could have just been signed for cheaper and not cost any draft capital...so doubt they are going to be players for Taylor. Edited August 21, 2023 by Alphadawg7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Good grief! Here we go, how many pages will this run? Well we need 200 for it to happen...LETS GO! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabstblueribbon Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) Suprised he's not a dolphin already. Why would he possibly go outside the afc east? Edit: and ^ there it is lol Edited August 21, 2023 by Pabstblueribbon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5th and Zack Moss…gettrrrr dumb Beane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 This is awesome! Dump the new Jets guy and sign Taylor! The more running backs the merrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Welcome to Miami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, BuffaloBaumer said: Welcome to Miami My first thought. They can give him 3 year deal. Tua and Waddle big cap hits won’t kick in for a few years. They could fit him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Curious if this could happen.... NOT even talking about here, but was a spit-balling take from Cover2. Say no teams were willing to trade and give a new contract, is it possible a team could offer to put in writing that they would NOT franchise tag him... just as the next best incentive for him as opposed to a new contract. Just, we want your services for the year, we cant afford you, but to keep you happy/motivated, you'll get a chance to chase $$ as an Unrestricted next year? Would just be interesting to see that precedent set, because anytime we see this situation most of the top dawg teams are immediately ruled out because of cap concerns. Basically, can a team even offer a 'no franchise tag' clause? Has that happened before? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: My first thought. They can give him 3 year deal. Tua and Waddle big cap hits won’t kick in for a few years. They could fit him. Yup, Bills won’t ever be in that conversation until the line is upgraded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Colts playing dirty. They know no teams gonna trade for him right now. Teams don’t have cap space right now to give him the deal he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Ok it’s just RBs but can the league stop helping out our AFC East rivals please? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Great player but which teams around the league need running backs so bad they are willing to part with draft capital and commit to a big contract? He seems like a player that would do well in Baltimore and Washington but I can't imagine they are interested with dobbins as robinson already set as starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, BillMafia716ix said: Colts playing dirty. They know no teams gonna trade for him right now. Teams don’t have cap space right now to give him the deal he wants. Meh, while it does restrict somewhat, whats stopping a team from giving the Watson type contract, $1m this year, then pump up the next 2-4 years of contract + GUARANTEED $$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Someone on Twitter said that RBs are gonna have to start negotiating differently. When their rookie contracts are up, they will have to start negotiating shorter term, higher paid deals. Something like 2 years $30 million and then go from there. That way teams aren't locked into almost 30 year old RBs on 5 year deals. The RBs won't like it. But it may be the best way for them to go 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 23 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Good grief! Here we go, how many pages will this run? It doesn’t deserve one page, but the redundancy machine will rev up and go out of control, 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 No way it happens & we can’t afford him but sure make a phone call. 2nd in 24 & 3rd in 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, HappyDays said: And the anonymous source tweets begin...more will certainly come. So a team with a bad OL who wasn't willing to pay another talented RB in Dalvin is now going to both pay him even more money and give up draft assets (that they will need as their cap balloons soon) for a guy who is coming off am injury and a down year? Color me skeptical. They could have just signed Dalvin cheaper and not had to trade any assets. And Dalvin was making it clear he wanted to play there too. Edited August 21, 2023 by Alphadawg7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Someone on Twitter said that RBs are gonna have to start negotiating differently. When their rookie contracts are up, they will have to start negotiating shorter term, higher paid deals. Something like 2 years $30 million and then go from there. That way teams aren't locked into almost 30 year old RBs on 5 year deals. The RBs won't like it. But it may be the best way for them to go AAV of 15M is top 3 at the position. Most of the RB woes aren’t dealing with contract #2, but contract #3. They are trying to negotiate contract #2 to compensate, and that’s where they are losing the battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Cowboys Chiefs Patriots seem logical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazeduck Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: And the anonymous source tweets begin...more will certainly come. So a team with a bad OL who wasn't willing to pay another talented RB in Dalvin is now going to both pay him even more money and give up draft assets (that they will need as their cap balloons soon) for a guy who is coming off a down injury filled year who had one exceptional year when he was playing behind the best OL in the NFL? Color me skeptical. They could have just signed Dalvin cheaper and not had to trade any assets. And Dalvin was making it clear he wanted to play there too. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but to pretend like Dalvin Cook and Jonathan Taylor are apples:apples is laughable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Is he even confirmed to be healthy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Funny because even though all these teams refuse to pay these guys, the Colts will now turn around and demand an arm and a leg in trade compensation. Edited August 21, 2023 by JoPoy88 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: And the anonymous source tweets begin...more will certainly come. So a team with a bad OL who wasn't willing to pay another talented RB in Dalvin is now going to both pay him even more money and give up draft assets (that they will need as their cap balloons soon) for a guy who is coming off a down injury filled year who had one exceptional year when he was playing behind the best OL in the NFL? Color me skeptical. They could have just signed Dalvin cheaper and not had to trade any assets. And Dalvin was making it clear he wanted to play there too. Dolphins also are way over the cap in 2024. Obviously they can make lots of moves but they are hardly the pinnacle of overpaying for an RB in the nfl 1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said: Funny because even those all these teams refuse to pay these guys, the Colts will now turn around and demand an arm and a leg in trade compensation. Allowing Taylor to seek a trade is like allowing Lamar to seek a trade. They want him to see his market, then come crawling back. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 25 minutes ago, I'm Spartacus said: This is awesome! Dump the new Jets guy and sign Taylor! The more running backs the merrier. Taylor isn't a free agent so they can't just "sign" him. Bills will have to give up something of value and then probably do a new deal. He is still on PUP ,anyways, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, glazeduck said: I don't necessarily disagree with you, but to pretend like Dalvin Cook and Jonathan Taylor are apples:apples is laughable... I respectfully disagree there is some huge gap between these two RB's...Taylor had one great year behind one of the best OL's in football as the main focal point of the offense. The other 2 seasons Taylors production isnt any better than Cooks and Cook didn't have the benefit of being on a run first team behind an elite OL. So I am gonna have to say this feels like a stretch to act like there is a vast difference in the quality of these two players. Plus, you can make a case that Cook is a better fit given he comes from a pass first team where Taylor wants to be paid top dollar and the focal point of the offense. Edited August 21, 2023 by Alphadawg7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Makes sense… the QB isn’t that good so go get an elite RB. Bills fans went through this for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Herb Nightly said: Taylor isn't a free agent so they can't just "sign" him. Bills will have to give up something of value and then probably do a new deal. He is still on PUP ,anyways, so... Sarcasm my friend! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: Dolphins also are way over the cap in 2024. Obviously they can make lots of moves but they are hardly the pinnacle of overpaying for an RB in the nfl Allowing Taylor to seek a trade is like allowing Lamar to seek a trade. They want him to see his market, then come crawling back. This. Dolphins weren't willing to pay Cook enough to come there, I seriously doubt they are looking to spend more on Taylor with their upcoming cap. Not to mention having to send Indy valuable draft capital they will need with their cap ballooning soon to help keep the roster up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 We don’t have money to pay him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, wppete said: We don’t have money to pay him. More like...we don't have a line to support him. I am terrified to see us force the run this year and never get more than 2-3 yards each time. Dorsey is the most important person on this team (besides Allen) as he will have to get Kincaid, Knox and Cook heavily involved in the passing game (in addition to the usual suspects). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, FireChans said: AAV of 15M is top 3 at the position. Most of the RB woes aren’t dealing with contract #2, but contract #3. They are trying to negotiate contract #2 to compensate, and that’s where they are losing the battle. Which brings it back to my point. They will need to take a shorter term higher paid deal and then go from there. Teams aren't gonna lock long term contracts on RBs anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 58 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Good grief! Here we go, how many pages will this run? None, we just signed Ty Johnson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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