WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 8:14 AM, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I don't think that numbers will fully show his impact. 600 yards and 8 TD would be at the high end of expectations, and I would be thrilled if he hit that. Diggs is still going to eat, but I like this as a 1-2 punch @Kirby Jackson well I am going to be pretty light on TD but there is a good chance that he beats my yard estimate. I was expecting him as more of a red zone threat, but he's younger, bigger Beasley and I will take it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted November 22, 2023 Share Posted November 22, 2023 I did a bit of math. Kincaid is averaging 63.6 yards a game over the last six games. Now, it's not fair to expect that every week going forward especially as Knox comes back and defenses get wise but generally I don't think 700 yards in a rookie season is impossible, and 50 yards a game would put him in top 10 rookie TE yards historically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I think we can now safely say Dalton Kincaid had an amazing year and we still don’t use him enough. He should get anywhere from 5-10 more targets a game. We have a star in the making. 73 Catches 673 Yards 2 TD 4 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 His target depth seems to be increasing. 9 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 He definitely had a genuinely great rookie season. I am hopeful moving forward despite remaining skeptical about the investment as a 1st round pick on a team already paying a TE big money. That being said, if they can find a way to bring in a legit WR2, this offense will remain in tact again for at least next season with guys like Cool, Kincaid, Shakir and Torrence growing into more vetted players. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Returntoglory Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: He definitely had a genuinely great rookie season. I am hopeful moving forward despite remaining skeptical about the investment as a 1st round pick on a team already paying a TE big money. That being said, if they can find a way to bring in a legit WR2, this offense will remain in tact again for at least next season with guys like Cool, Kincaid, Shakir and Torrence growing into more vetted. I wish we could have snagged DeAndre Hopkins. What an offense! 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I was really worried he hit the rookie wall after his slump vs chiefs, cowboys, and chargers. Then he shut me up with his best back to back games of the season. I‘ve never felt more confident about a player becoming a star in the McBeane era than I do about Kincaid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 He’s so smooth at catching and running! It’s fun to watch and will be for years to come! 86 will be my next jersey 😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 16 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: He definitely had a genuinely great rookie season. I am hopeful moving forward despite remaining skeptical about the investment as a 1st round pick on a team already paying a TE big money. That being said, if they can find a way to bring in a legit WR2, this offense will remain in tact again for at least next season with guys like Cool, Kincaid, Shakir and Torrence growing into more vetted players. He has had multi-game flashes of greatness like the past few weeks and this stretch earlier The best part is that he still has a chance to reach the higher end of his pre-season projections in the playoffs. PFF actually projected him to exceed 1,000 yards receiving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I always thought. If the bills are going to go anywhere this year. Kincaid would have to be a big factor. After a full season of this iteration /current offense. I’m doubling down. He should be THE primary target on most plays. He should be a Kelce. If we have a good corner matchup then diggs is back to 1 target. It’s the only way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) So a very successful rookie year for Kincaid. What does this mean for his second season? Does Knox still remain TE #1 because of his experience (not to mention his bloated contract which some teams might want to justify)? I think Kincaid moves the ball better and more consistently than Dawson. So what do we do? I really don't think 12 personnel will be a big thing in 2024. If I were GM, I'd start Kincaid and make Knox the number 2 TE when we're in 11. But I understand the politics of it. Do you pay a guy $14,000,000 to be a backup TE? Could he be traded for a guy with a similar salary hit in a position of need (Safety or DE, or maybe even WR)? Giving Knox that contract then drafting Kincaid is an overextension of resources for a position that usually will only have one player on the field at a time. BTW: In 2025, Knox's dead cap is $7,800.000. I think that's when he goes. There's not enough cap savings to let him go in 2024. Edited January 9 by Nephilim17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with No Name Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 That knox contract was bad the second it was signed, and there was never one moment after where it felt like maybe it was right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 On 6/12/2023 at 5:13 PM, Kirby Jackson said: 68 catches 680 yards 6 TDs I did 4 catches and 40 yards a game. I also figured a TD every 3 games. Those numbers feel realistic to me. Pretty close. Just a little high on the TDs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 He should be a big target for Josh on Sunday considering the weather and the fact that the Steelers' weakness on defense is with their LBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Kincaid is an absolute game changing killer pick by Beane and is a matchup nightmare for LBs or DBs. He’s fast, gets great separation and runs hard after the catch. His chemistry and trust factor with Josh is improving with each game and wilh Shakir has become our vertical downfield targets. Small wonder our OC is spreading the receptions around and more times than not Davis is odd man out. Our offense has been transitioned to a balanced attack with Cook running and being a threat out of the backfield along with multiple options at receiver. With Josh’s run threat this offense is pretty formidable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 11 hours ago, gobills404 said: I was really worried he hit the rookie wall after his slump vs chiefs, cowboys, and chargers. Then he shut me up with his best back to back games of the season. I‘ve never felt more confident about a player becoming a star in the McBeane era than I do about Kincaid. I think he was working through an injury those games, and seems to be feeling better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 On 11/22/2023 at 7:39 AM, Kirby Jackson said: Lol, I saw that. It’s perfect. You were able to be pleasantly surprised. The Bills drafted a talented pass catching TE and he’s actually good. If they would have realized that before like week 8, they’d be even better off. He would’ve had a big year anyway if he didn’t hurt his thumb…looked like he had trouble catching for a few weeks after the thumb injury. Still a great rookie season nonetheless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 11 hours ago, Nephilim17 said: So a very successful rookie year for Kincaid. What does this mean for his second season? Does Knox still remain TE #1 because of his experience (not to mention his bloated contract which some teams might want to justify)? I think Kincaid moves the ball better and more consistently than Dawson. So what do we do? I really don't think 12 personnel will be a big thing in 2024. If I were GM, I'd start Kincaid and make Knox the number 2 TE when we're in 11. But I understand the politics of it. Do you pay a guy $14,000,000 to be a backup TE? Could he be traded for a guy with a similar salary hit in a position of need (Safety or DE, or maybe even WR)? Giving Knox that contract then drafting Kincaid is an overextension of resources for a position that usually will only have one player on the field at a time. BTW: In 2025, Knox's dead cap is $7,800.000. I think that's when he goes. There's not enough cap savings to let him go in 2024. You can just use kincaid as the slot WR in situations too. Having two tight ends who can make plays isnt an either/or type of thing - one is the superior blocker and seems to be more of a load to take down. The other is the better route runner with hands. The goal is to use both. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 12 hours ago, balln said: I always thought. If the bills are going to go anywhere this year. Kincaid would have to be a big factor. After a full season of this iteration /current offense. I’m doubling down. He should be THE primary target on most plays. He should be a Kelce. If we have a good corner matchup then diggs is back to 1 target. It’s the only way I think that will be the case starting next season. As kincaids biggest fan, he needs to put on some muscle. When he gets hit, he’s gets smashed. Hasn’t been seriously injured, but it looks like he really feels every one of those hits. If that last TD pass was to Kincaid instead of knox, I don’t know if he’d have the strength to power through and into the endzone. He pretty special after the catch in general, but adding more strength will get him to the level of play we’re all hoping for. jmo Edited January 9 by NewEra 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, NewEra said: I think that will be the case starting next season. As kincaids biggest fan, he needs to put on some muscle. When he gets hit, he’s gets smashed. Hasn’t been seriously injured, but it looks like he really feels every one of those hits. If that last TD pass was to Kincaid instead of knox, I don’t know if he’d have the strength to power through and into the endzone. He pretty special after the catch in general, but adding more strength will get him to the level of play we’re all hoping for. jmo totally agree. I think he is more slender genetically than Knox, but appears to be about a Kelce sized dude. Working out all offseason in a NFL facility will help. Heck, he can do reps with the Lombardi trophy! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 In his last two games his targets have gone back up. Which, in my mind, were the obvious choices, and he was wide open on his route on that second interception. For the most part, whenever we have given him more he has risen to the occasion. I know that getting the same targets as Diggs is impressive logically, but it feel like we need more of him. I can remember twice last game when he made a play. The first is where Josh fakes a handoff (play action pass!) and zips it for 28 yards https://www.buffalobills.com/video/josh-allen-zips-28-yard-sideline-strike-to-dalton-kincaid-bills-at-dolphins The other was a Cover 0 blitz beater In both you have to go "oh yeah, that's what you use a passing tight end for" and then wonder why we haven't been seeing it. No more Gabe Davis in the red zone, give me Kincaid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) On 1/9/2024 at 11:36 AM, RyanC883 said: totally agree. I think he is more slender genetically than Knox, but appears to be about a Kelce sized dude. Working out all offseason in a NFL facility will help. Heck, he can do reps with the Lombardi trophy! Kelce's 6'6 whereas Kincaid a few inches shorter but does make them slightly different. I think comparisons stem from they both know how to find holes in the defense and hand catch and high point quote well. I've read some feel Dalton another Aaron Hernandez which thinks a fair comparison based on size and on the field abilities Edited January 13 by The Jokeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 He said a new record for Buffalo Bills tight ends didn’t he? Sounds like a good first year to me 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Preseason I said that Kincaid would be second in receptions after Diggs. I was right. I also said he would score 10 TDs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 1/9/2024 at 4:33 PM, Sierra Foothills said: Preseason I said that Kincaid would be second in receptions after Diggs. I was right. I also said he would score 10 TDs. I read in the Bflo News this morning that Kincaid's 73 receptions this year are the 4th most in NFL history by a rookie tight end. While it was not the best season by a rookie tight end this year, historically it is one of the best seasons by a rookie tight end. Kudos again to Brandon Beane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFooteball Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) On 1/9/2024 at 4:30 PM, The Jokeman said: Kelce's 6'6 whereas Kincaid a few inches shorter but does make them slightly different. I think comparisons stem from they both know how to find holes in the defense and hand catch and high point quote well. I've read some feel Dalton another Aaron Hernandez which thinks a fair comparison based on size and on the field abilities As long as they don’t have the same off the field abilities I’m good with this Edited January 15 by BillsFooteball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 On 1/13/2024 at 11:25 AM, Sierra Foothills said: I read in the Bflo News this morning that Kincaid's 73 receptions this year are the 4th most in NFL history by a rookie tight end. While it was not the best season by a rookie tight end this year, historically it is one of the best seasons by a rookie tight end. Kudos again to Brandon Beane. If he had as many targets as LaPorta, his yards would have been virtually identical. But LaPorta would still have beaten him with TDs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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