Colin Cowherd's Take

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

It's because he's miscast as a WR2

 

His questionable hands and limited route tree combined w big play ability would be perfect for a WR3. Relying on him as the second highest target share in this offense is very inefficient.

Thats not accurate and not what a WR2 does. WR2 does not mean 2nd in targets. Its not Davis's fault that the slot WR production has fallen off greatly. Its also not his fault they don't target Knox enough. In a perfect world WR2 would be the fourth most targeted player but have a high YPC and score a decent number of TDs drawing single coverage. Thats exactly what he is. 

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Thats not accurate and not what a WR2 does. WR2 does not mean 2nd in targets. Its not Davis's fault that the slot WR production has fallen off greatly. Its also not his fault they don't target Knox enough. In a perfect world WR2 would be the fourth most targeted player but have a high YPC and score a decent number of TDs drawing single coverage. Thats exactly what he is. 

I would absolutely love Gabe Davis being the fourth most targeted player in this offense. Unfortunately he's the second, hence miscast.

[CincyBillsFan]

Cowherd isn't wrong here but IMO he downplays the additions to the O line and running game that the Bills did do this year.

 

What it will come down to is simple, if the guard play significantly improves and Brown makes the leap then McD will have solved the O line problem and the Bills will be formidable this season.  If the new O linemen don't improve the guard play and Brown continues to struggle then Cowherd is 100% right and heads should roll at One Bills Drive.

 

[LABILLBACKER]

47 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

You’re forgetting about the Brandon Shell signing who definitely is better than the 2021.  Brown and the any year quessenberry. He’s a sneaky good signing and could be the starting RT if Brown doesn’t vastly improve

Hey I'm all for competition at RT. That's the only real weakness I see. We're super deep on the interior.  CowT did conveniently omit the IOL additions and new wrs.  And Jets guy mispronouncing Shakir was adorable. Wright coming on later was typical KC ball- washing.  When Kelce retires things will swing.

[Airseven]

Beane has done a poor job with both lines. He wastes money and resources on one and tosses leftover scraps to the other.

[dma0034]

I mean.... the Bills have addressed the OLine many times however; they haven't gotten it right. This year may be more of the same or it may be different. Time will tell and that's his point.... Offensive coaches have corrected it quickly. I have very little faith in Ken Dorsey and if the Bills lose the same way they did last year I'd be down with getting someone like Ben Johnson

[Don Otreply]

Its Cowherd, a sports talking head, never gonna get any depth from those types

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, DCofNC said:

They tried? Really?  Look at all the DL Picks and signings, then check OL, get back to us.  Replacing garbage with somebody else’s garbage is not trying.

Look at all the OL picks and signings.

 

Wow, that was easier than I thought.

[John from Riverside]

9 minutes ago, Airseven said:

Beane has done a poor job with both lines. He wastes money and resources on one and tosses leftover scraps to the other.

Leftover scraps?

[Ethan in Cleveland]

17 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

I would absolutely love Gabe Davis being the fourth most targeted player in this offense. Unfortunately he's the second, hence miscast.

Again. He wasn't the second most targeted when Beasley was catching 80 balls in back to back years. Its not Davis that is miscast. It is a lack of a quality slot WR - McKenzie failed, and Daboll/Dorsey's inability to get more targets for Knox. 

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, DCofNC said:

They tried? Really?  Look at all the DL Picks and signings, then check OL, get back to us.  Replacing garbage with somebody else’s garbage is not trying.

Would love to hear your alternatives

[PrimeTime101]

Horrible Narrative that we have not put more emphasis on the offensive line this year and more money on that offensive line this year.

 

Spotrac.

 

Offensive line---$48,774,557 21% ish. 

Defensive line---$27,750,338 13% (Floyd is not in this equation yet but its not like it will change to much)

 

If I had listened to this last year, the year before? I would have agreed

So the next statement is going to be... Well  more bodies on the OL this year in camp. True good point

 

So. Lets add up top 5 in each position group and yes.. I know there are 5 OL and 4 DL  but we will see how close this is.

 

we are just doing top 5 paid. We are talking about investment not starting roles. We have better starters that are being paid less so lets concentrate on investment

 

OL https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/positional/offensive-line/2023/full-cap/

1-Dion Dawkins-LT-$14,854,294-6.52%

2-Mitch Morse-C-$11,360,000-4.99%

3-Ryan Bates-G-$4,875,000-2.14%

4-Connor McGovern-G-$4,000,000-1.76%

5-David Edwards-G-$1,770,000-0.78%

16.9%

 

DL To be fair I added an extra player.. especially considering DL rotate lots. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/positional/defensive-line/2022/full-cap/

Ed Oliver-DT-$6,260,276-3%

Von Miller-DE-$5,150,000-2.47%

DaQuan Jones-DT-$3,583,333-1.72%

Jordan Phillips-DE-$3,514,706-1.69%

Tim Settle-DT-$2,675,000-1.28%

10.16

 

Now.. the next thing is .. (Von and Oliver contract has huge backload. It will be different next year.. True.. So just for the fun of it give them an extra 5% just to make the point. because... we are still more invested on the top 5OL.

 

So the next thing is. Well the talent is better on the OL

 

So.. lets match top 5 investments. (edited from talent to investments)  

Von vs Dawkins.. Yea.. I know.. Von  

Morse vs Oliver. Edge to Morse if healthy and this is close...

Bates vs Jones. Dead Heat? IDK you guys are the pro's i am just a numbers guy.

McGovern vs Philips. McGovern

Edwards Vs Settle. Settle by a notch.

 

Reminder.. I am just doing to the top 5 investments not starters. Investment was the word. used. 

 

Anyhow... This could go either way... It really to close to judge... You guys make the call based on numbers shown and breakdowns.

 

Point being... Don't tell me we did not invest in the OL this year.. Horrible Take on the united front of click break heroes'   

 

 

Edited June 7, 2023 by PrimeTime101

[Blank Stare]

It’s that damn Khalil Shakers fault. 

[LABILLBACKER]

39 minutes ago, folz said:

No question they have had a hard time putting a solid 5 together on the O-line over the years. There always seems to be one or two weak links.

 

But, Cowherd kind of intimates that they have ignored the offense (to any viewers who aren't paying attention), just because we didn't sign a big name like Hopkins.

 

But when you compare the losses and gains on the offense, it is hard to push a narrative that they aren't trying to help Josh. Of course, we have to wait to see if it all works out, but they tried to improve the three major areas of weakness from last year (and each with multiple options): interior O-line, the run game, and the slot receiving position. Gabe Davis (WR #2) wasn't the problem with the offense last year, it was the three areas just mentioned. And the Bills addressed those without breaking the bank (as we were up against the cap). But, when you're looking in from the outside (but not really paying attention---like Cowherd), all you know are the big names and big deals that happen, but ignore all of the other signings and the context and reasons for those signings.

 

Losses                 Gains 

Trubisky             K. Allen

McKenzie           Kincaid      

                           Harty

                           Sherfield

                           Shorter

Singletary          Harris

                           Murray

                           Hines (added late last year)

Saffold               Torrence

                           McGovern

                           Edwards

                           Broeker

                           Shell

                           Boettger (out all last year)

 

 

Good breakdown...it's almost like Colin is emphasizing the lack of a offensive HC as the bulk of his argument.  And Beane has added promising players on the offense.  We'll have to see. Like I've said several times over the last few weeks,  my 2 biggest fears are Brown & Dorsey.  

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Again. He wasn't the second most targeted when Beasley was catching 80 balls in back to back years. Its not Davis that is miscast. It is a lack of a quality slot WR - McKenzie failed, and Daboll/Dorsey's inability to get more targets for Knox. 

We agree, then, that Davis is not suited for a role wherein he is targeted at the rate he is at present, and that a better wideout to supplant some of his targets would be a more efficient offensive distribution.

[Big Blitz]

All he’s saying is our Oline isn’t good enough.  
 

He’s not wrong but it’s not like we’re not addressing the Oline.  

 

Torrence is high draft capital.  
 

Ford was a bust but a 2nd RD pick.  Spencer Brown they clearly believe in - ok.  Can’t disagree with the build the line thru the draft strategy but we haven’t hit on any picks.  Hopefully Torrence changes that.  
 

Dawkins and Morse are solid mainstays that cost $$$.   Again, all he’s saying is the Oline isn’t good enough.  No kidding.  And obviously, Davis better breakout.  

 

 

And those rushing yards allowed (186 in the 13 seconds game???) is why many of us aren’t too distraught that Edmonds is gone.
 

He’s also wrong about the Bengals not addressing their defense.  They absolutely did.  Their top 2 salaries?  Reader and Hendrickson.  Come on Colin.  BJ Hill 10 million.  Hubbard 10 million.  
 

Then addressed their offense by being able to draft Chase.  
 

Fyi - Willie Gay is a UFA after this season and Creed Humphrey in 24.  Chiefs and Bengals (Higgins) going to have some big time decisions to make.  

Edited June 7, 2023 by Big Blitz

[Virgil]

If he was only talking about the regular season, he’d be correct.  Our defense craps the bed in the playoffs.  
 

With that being said, if we got a RT and DHop instead of extending Oliver and getting Floyd, I’d be more excited for this next season. 

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

He's not wrong. This is an offensive league. Teams with solid offensive minded HC's will have an advantage over us. I love the Floyd signing, but I hate the picks of Basham,  AJE and all the mediocre linebackers over beefing up the OL.  I just don't see any cap path to sign dHop to even a 1 yr deal at this point. And why is it we're always top 5 every year in defense only to watch it crumble in the playoffs?

We’re the Yankees of the NFL. 

 

A regular-season bully that’s not built to go deep into the playoffs. 
 

 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

The National media is clueless on the Bills.

 

CBS Sports Radio was saying the Bills need to invest in the power run game this weekend because they play in snowy Buffalo. 

 

I listened to Colin since ESPN in 2004. Dropped him completely after the Vikings game last year and haven’t listened to him once since.

 

He does the same show every day, makes the same points, same guests, same stories, same analogies.

 

He’s old and washed up. Dan Patrick is old and washed up. These guys do the same show every day. 
 

Edited June 7, 2023 by Straight Hucklebuck

[GoBills808]

5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

The National media is clueless on the Bills.

 

CBS Sports Radio was saying the Bills need to invest in the power run game this weekend because they play in snowy Buffalo. 

 

I listened to Colin since ESPN in 2004. Dropped him completely after the Vikings game last year and haven’t listened to him once since.

 

He does the same show every day, makes the same points, same guests, same stories, same analogies.

 

He’s old and washed up. Dan Patrick is old and washed up. These guys do the same show every day. 
 

I dunno

 

From what I've heard nationally they think the Bills are a yearly contender with a great QB and a propensity to fizzle out in the postseason

 

That seems pretty spot on

[LABILLBACKER]

26 minutes ago, Gugny said:

We’re the Yankees of the NFL. 

 

A regular-season bully that’s not built to go deep into the playoffs. 
 

 

Yup

[AuntieEm]

3 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

He's not wrong. This is an offensive league. Teams with solid offensive minded HC's will have an advantage over us. I love the Floyd signing, but I hate the picks of Basham,  AJE and all the mediocre linebackers over beefing up the OL.  I just don't see any cap path to sign dHop to even a 1 yr deal at this point. And why is it we're always top 5 every year in defense only to watch it crumble in the playoffs?

 

  Well I do want the Bills to keep adding to the ol, once you got it  set up well then you can keep it solid with high end draft picks to develop in the system you have a solid unit with.  With a defensive HC  he should be able to identify the right free agent vets to fit into his schemes.  I don't mind if they spend fa on defense if they keep adding quality on offense in the draft.  

 

  I hope another year under kromer and being healthy will see Brown rebound into a capable tackle.  Even if he is improved I'd still want them to draft a top tackle to train and compete for both Brown and Dawkins as both could be improved there's a big gap between both and the top tackles at their respective sides.  Bring in a talented rookie and they either up their games or get replaced by a better player.  

 

 

 

 

Edited June 7, 2023 by AuntieEm

[LABILLBACKER]

10 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

 

  Well I do want the Bills to keep adding to the ol, once you got it  set up well then you can keep it solid with high end draft picks to develop in the system you have a solid unit with.  With a defensive HC  he should be able to identify the right free agent vets to fit into his schemes.  I don't mind if they spend fa on defense if they keep adding quality on offense in the draft.  

 

 

So true.  I would hope Beane stresses to McD the benefit of continued offensive drafting and taking FA swings on D.  Kincaid and Torrence I feel will be very good picks.  Next year we need to go wr & RT early.  Load up on offense with 4-5 year rookie contracts. 

[PrimeTime101]

10 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

So true.  I would hope Beane stresses to McD the benefit of continued offensive drafting and taking FA swings on D.  Kincaid and Torrence I feel will be very good picks.  Next year we need to go wr & RT early.  Load up on offense with 4-5 year rookie contracts. 

Next year I think it will be WR early.. I think Center needs to be a concern next year as well.  But I hate his take that we have not invested in the OL this year. Just a horrible take. 

[bigduke6]

Colin isnt wrong about this.   i think any Bills fan with half a brain knows that the lines are always a problem,  regular and post season.    have we fixed OLine?  mbe,  remains to be seen.  Saffold being gone is a major step in the right direction.   the national media may miss the intricacies of our team,  but it just comes down to,  Bills cant run the ball,  and cant rush the passer.    if you cant do at least 1 of those 2 things with consistency,  you're not winning Super Bowls.  we cant do either as of yet.

[Doc Brown]

Bills offense last three years:

 

2020 - 2nd in points, 2nd in yards

2021 - 3rd in points, 5th in yards

2022 - 2nd in points, 2nd in yards

 

Yet he lumps us in with the Steelers, Seahawks, Bears, and Chargers because they have defensive head coaches.  

[PrimeTime101]

Just now, Doc Brown said:

Bills offense last three years:

 

2020 - 2nd in points, 2nd in yards

2021 - 3rd in points, 5th in yards

2022 - 2nd in points, 2nd in yards

 

Yet he lumps us in with the Steelers, Seahawks, Bears, and Chargers because they have defensive head coaches.  

This should scare teams if we can show/prove our OL gets up to the top 15th ish in numbers. 

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said:

Next year I think it will be WR early.. I think Center needs to be a concern next year as well.  But I hate his take that we have not invested in the OL this year. Just a horrible take. 

Yup....1. Wr....2. RT.....3. C

Hopefully Mitch makes it through the season without any concussions.  Eventually Dion will be down the road.

[transplantbillsfan]

5 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Pretty blunt take from Colin. Wondering how others feel about what he says. 

 

Take this from a consistent Cowherd listener who actually likes to listen to him (and insert the "even though" after you read what I say):

 

Colin Cowherd is stubborn as hell while marketing himself as open minded. Dude railed against Josh Allen on his show for all of 2018, 2019 and about the first 3 or 4 games of 2020. I remember us beating the Jets after game 1 with that fluke pick 6 off Beas and then Allen bringing us back for some late game heroics and Cowherd basically said Allen will always be an inaccurate QB who relies on his legs.

 

Then the season progresses and Cowherd pivoted. He really just went on without acknowledging his disdain for Allen for the last few years. But you could tell he knew how Uber talented he was, so he jumped on the Buffalo train. And after 13 seconds, let's be honest, Allen and Mahomes looked equal.

 

So Cowherd touted Buffalo all offseason. He even brought Josh on his show once.

 

Then 2022 happened with all the trials and tribulations Buffalo faced--which were historic--and Cowherd largely doubled back. Keep in mind, now he's really more a massive critic of Buffalo as an organization than Josh.

 

But that's also part of the point with Cowherd. He has ALWAYS been a huge critic of small market teams. Anyone who listens to him knows he's very 1 foot out on most of the small market NFL teams.

 

Cowherd is a fun listen, yet despite his claim to be one of the most intelligent and open minded sports analysts out there, he's actually pretty myopic.

 

And this discussion on his part proves it. Buffalo massively upgraded their OL this offseason. Saffold was terrible so addition by subtraction. Add McGovern, Edwards, Torrence, Shell who are ALL potential to likely starters in the NFL. And we spend money on one player already in house and one "big" FA we get for less than $10m???

 

Yeah, in this case I say Cowherd is an idiot. And pay attention to him this year. Watch the way he pivots if Buffalo succeeds.

[PrimeTime101]

14 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Yup....1. Wr....2. RT.....3. C

Hopefully Mitch makes it through the season without any concussions.  Eventually Dion will be down the road.

I think this all depends on what happens at the MLB position this year... If that is an epic fail and can't find a suitable replacement in FA, It would look like WR MLB C RT in that order. Only because MLB is the biggest future question at hand yes?

6 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Take this from a consistent Cowherd listener who actually likes to listen to him (and insert the "even though" after you read what I say):

 

Colin Cowherd is stubborn as hell while marketing himself as open minded. Dude railed against Josh Allen on his show for all of 2018, 2019 and about the first 3 or 4 games of 2020. I remember us beating the Jets after game 1 with that fluke pick 6 off Beas and then Allen bringing us back for some late game heroics and Cowherd basically said Allen will always be an inaccurate QB who relies on his legs.

 

Then the season progresses and Cowherd pivoted. He really just went on without acknowledging his disdain for Allen for the last few years. But you could tell he knew how Uber talented he was, so he jumped on the Buffalo train. And after 13 seconds, let's be honest, Allen and Mahomes looked equal.

 

So Cowherd touted Buffalo all offseason. He even brought Josh on his show once.

 

Then 2022 happened with all the trials and tribulations Buffalo faced--which were historic--and Cowherd largely doubled back. Keep in mind, now he's really more a massive critic of Buffalo as an organization than Josh.

 

But that's also part of the point with Cowherd. He has ALWAYS been a huge critic of small market teams. Anyone who listens to him knows he's very 1 foot out on most of the small market NFL teams.

 

Cowherd is a fun listen, yet despite his claim to be one of the most intelligent and open minded sports analysts out there, he's actually pretty myopic.

 

And this discussion on his part proves it. Buffalo massively upgraded their OL this offseason. Saffold was terrible so addition by subtraction. Add McGovern, Edwards, Torrence, Shell who are ALL potential to likely starters in the NFL. And we spend money on one player already in house and one "big" FA we get for less than $10m???

 

Yeah, in this case I say Cowherd is an idiot. And pay attention to him this year. Watch the way he pivots if Buffalo succeeds.

I agree with all of what you say... you have to remember, the dude needs his clicks as well, so he is going to mix in questionable takes. it is what it is. I think his narrative is bad. but time will tell yes?

[newcam2012]

9 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Take this from a consistent Cowherd listener who actually likes to listen to him (and insert the "even though" after you read what I say):

 

Colin Cowherd is stubborn as hell while marketing himself as open minded. Dude railed against Josh Allen on his show for all of 2018, 2019 and about the first 3 or 4 games of 2020. I remember us beating the Jets after game 1 with that fluke pick 6 off Beas and then Allen bringing us back for some late game heroics and Cowherd basically said Allen will always be an inaccurate QB who relies on his legs.

 

Then the season progresses and Cowherd pivoted. He really just went on without acknowledging his disdain for Allen for the last few years. But you could tell he knew how Uber talented he was, so he jumped on the Buffalo train. And after 13 seconds, let's be honest, Allen and Mahomes looked equal.

 

So Cowherd touted Buffalo all offseason. He even brought Josh on his show once.

 

Then 2022 happened with all the trials and tribulations Buffalo faced--which were historic--and Cowherd largely doubled back. Keep in mind, now he's really more a massive critic of Buffalo as an organization than Josh.

 

But that's also part of the point with Cowherd. He has ALWAYS been a huge critic of small market teams. Anyone who listens to him knows he's very 1 foot out on most of the small market NFL teams.

 

Cowherd is a fun listen, yet despite his claim to be one of the most intelligent and open minded sports analysts out there, he's actually pretty myopic.

 

And this discussion on his part proves it. Buffalo massively upgraded their OL this offseason. Saffold was terrible so addition by subtraction. Add McGovern, Edwards, Torrence, Shell who are ALL potential to likely starters in the NFL. And we spend money on one player already in house and one "big" FA we get for less than $10m???

 

Yeah, in this case I say Cowherd is an idiot. And pay attention to him this year. Watch the way he pivots if Buffalo succeeds.

Great insight. Thanks

[Buffalo Junction]

Someone should lock Skip Bayless and Cowherd in a room with a bottle of KY and a pocket knife and not let either out until some type of penetration occurs. 

Edited June 7, 2023 by Buffalo Junction

[PrimeTime101]

16 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Someone should lock Skip Bayless and Cowherd in a room with a bottle of KY and a pocket knife and not let either out until some type of penetration occurs. 

throw in a mound a fire ants with them? 

[Buffalo Junction]

27 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

throw in a mound a fire ants with them? 

Bullet ants and you’ve got a deal

[buffalo2218]

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Take this from a consistent Cowherd listener who actually likes to listen to him (and insert the "even though" after you read what I say):

 

Colin Cowherd is stubborn as hell while marketing himself as open minded. Dude railed against Josh Allen on his show for all of 2018, 2019 and about the first 3 or 4 games of 2020. I remember us beating the Jets after game 1 with that fluke pick 6 off Beas and then Allen bringing us back for some late game heroics and Cowherd basically said Allen will always be an inaccurate QB who relies on his legs.

 

Then the season progresses and Cowherd pivoted. He really just went on without acknowledging his disdain for Allen for the last few years. But you could tell he knew how Uber talented he was, so he jumped on the Buffalo train. And after 13 seconds, let's be honest, Allen and Mahomes looked equal.

 

So Cowherd touted Buffalo all offseason. He even brought Josh on his show once.

 

Then 2022 happened with all the trials and tribulations Buffalo faced--which were historic--and Cowherd largely doubled back. Keep in mind, now he's really more a massive critic of Buffalo as an organization than Josh.

 

But that's also part of the point with Cowherd. He has ALWAYS been a huge critic of small market teams. Anyone who listens to him knows he's very 1 foot out on most of the small market NFL teams.

 

Cowherd is a fun listen, yet despite his claim to be one of the most intelligent and open minded sports analysts out there, he's actually pretty myopic.

 

And this discussion on his part proves it. Buffalo massively upgraded their OL this offseason. Saffold was terrible so addition by subtraction. Add McGovern, Edwards, Torrence, Shell who are ALL potential to likely starters in the NFL. And we spend money on one player already in house and one "big" FA we get for less than $10m???

 

Yeah, in this case I say Cowherd is an idiot. And pay attention to him this year. Watch the way he pivots if Buffalo succeeds.

The funny part about the bolded is Cowherd has a new sidekick that's a huge Jets homer that recently said the Bills were the team with the most pressure this year. Then about a week later he backtracked his statement by saying he didn't account for everything the Bills went through last year with Allen and his elbow injury, having to play multiple games with short rest primarily because of that massive snow storm, the Damar Hamlin incident etc. As a lot of people pointed out, Cowherd didn't mention the additions to the OL the Bills did make. But honestly, who could the Bills have signed that would have made an impact on the OL without completely wrecking our salary cap? I wouldn't call Cowherd an idiot, but he's not doing his due diligence either

[PrimeTime101]

35 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

Bullet ants and you’ve got a deal

those kill to fast. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

First comes love then comes hate. It’s how the media works.

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 hours ago, Einstein said:

But he also makes simple catches look difficult.

 

 

Kind of reminds of the Davante Adams year he was supposed to break out. Maybe his 2nd year. A lot of pressure was on him and he dropped everything. Then came back the next year and became dominant. Took over as WR1 by the end of the year.

 

 

[Chandler#81]

8 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

He’s a quick learner!

Ok, now you’re just lying.

[The Wiz]

10 hours ago, Sharky7337 said:

I watch cowherd a lot. And while I liked his point on defensive spending, he mostly states obvious and mildly incorrect things ( he acts like we didn't make any OL moves).

 

The only reason I watch him was cause he was early on the josh allen train.

 

But besides that he's always pretty shallow national media spin type.

 

I would rather have an offensive coach yes.

 

But Tomlin is a he'll of a coach too.

he was?