PatsFanNH Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I didn’t see this posted, but with Rogers from Indianapolis now being under investigation for hundreds of wagers with numerous ones on the colts and the suspension of a group of Lions players for gambling on games and Ridley for a year.. Why are they being so dumb? Isn’t it obvious to everyone that if you gamble on the game you destroy the integrity of said game? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 It’s really just small scale gambling. Some players are stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 You should look at society in general and that should answer your questions. People are idiots. 5 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 The NFL is walking a funny, fine little line right now. On the one hand, getting fully into bed with legal sports betting, promoting it three times per commercial break, adding handheld betting machines to stadium seatbacks, etc....all while telling players "gambling is bad!". And I'm not talking about gambling on other NFL games. If I understand it correctly, the NFL will discipline players for gambling any amount, on any sport. Ridiculous. 1 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Why are they being so dumb? When Marshawn Lynch was drafted he didn't know Buffalo wasn't part of NY City.... for every player who goes on to be a doctor there's a player who is excellent at football and not much else. Add in that gambling ads are everywhere, gambling has never been easier to do, and that players are human, and the league is bound to have players placing bets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 it think there's strange rules to it too. you can bet on non-nfl sports, but not while at an nfl facility. maybe they just need an all or nothing policy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 "The iceberg floats on water with only approximately 10% of its volume above the water and 90% of its volume below the water." 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Logic said: The NFL is walking a funny, fine little line right now. On the one hand, getting fully into bed with legal sports betting, promoting it three times per commercial break, adding handheld betting machines to stadium seatbacks, etc....all while telling players "gambling is bad!". And I'm not talking about gambling on other NFL games. If I understand it correctly, the NFL will discipline players for gambling any amount, on any sport. Ridiculous. ...wait, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, teef said: it think there's strange rules to it too. you can bet on non-nfl sports, but not while at an nfl facility. maybe they just need an all or nothing policy. they should allow them to bet any other sport but football, and if they are doing it on a treadmill in the facility who cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Just out of curiosity, why would you post that here and not on a Pats forum? I'm actually curious. Why spend time here instead of on the message boards of your team? I'm not saying you shouldn't post here, mind you. You are welcome to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I'm sure it went on as much or more before. Too many ways to get caught now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: they should allow them to bet any other sport but football, and if they are doing it on a treadmill in the facility who cares I would have to guess that anything that happens within the team facility then the team could also be held accountable for his actions. I'm pretty sure the players got through informational meetings about what is and isn't allowed within the facility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 22 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: they should allow them to bet any other sport but football, and if they are doing it on a treadmill in the facility who cares right. it just gets odd. i think that's why one of the guys on the lions got in trouble. i think if he was at this house and placed the bet, he'd be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: I would have to guess that anything that happens within the team facility then the team could also be held accountable for his actions. I'm pretty sure the players got through informational meetings about what is and isn't allowed within the facility. I'm sure they do, and they pay attention to that like they do the gun policy and domestic beatings policy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: I didn’t see this posted, but with Rogers from Indianapolis now being under investigation for hundreds of wagers with numerous ones on the colts and the suspension of a group of Lions players for gambling on games and Ridley for a year.. Why are they being so dumb? Isn’t it obvious to everyone that if you gamble on the game you destroy the integrity of said game? It’s not like the majority of football players are Rhodes scholars, and they certainly aren’t smart enough to not try to kill the golden goose…, This was all to predictable, the NFL owners own the gambling houses, they are the ones who introduced gambling on the games, it will only get worse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 35 minutes ago, GottaRun said: .... for every player who goes on to be a doctor there's a player who is excellent at football and not much else. You really think that’s 1:1 ratio?? 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Imagine risking a million dollar career for a few grand of wager winnings….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 45 minutes ago, mrags said: You should look at society in general and that should answer your questions. People are idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said: they should allow them to bet any other sport but football, and if they are doing it on a treadmill in the facility who cares The issue is when Joe Knucklehead is down $200k betting on basketball and a 'friend' suggests he could get the debt eliminated if he drops a few TD passes or throws over 2.5 INTs next Sunday to swing a game Edited June 6, 2023 by Robert Paulson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 I think it's easy to say they're stupid, the act is of course but there are reasonably intelligent people who make stupid mistakes for different motivations. Especially when it comes to gambling. When I was 25, I was bartending and had a great night in tips. I just wanted to go home and sleep but got talked into going to the casino. I lost everything I made that night and more. I had to work multiple double shifts in a row to get money back. So yeah, the smart thing to do is to just stay away and not be dumb. It shouldn't shock anyone that a 25 year old did something stupid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: I didn’t see this posted, but with Rogers from Indianapolis now being under investigation for hundreds of wagers with numerous ones on the colts and the suspension of a group of Lions players for gambling on games and Ridley for a year.. Why are they being so dumb? Isn’t it obvious to everyone that if you gamble on the game you destroy the integrity of said game? Because gambling is: 1. Fun 2. Addictive 3. Now legal and promoted literally everywhere. Next question. 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 30 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: I'm sure they do, and they pay attention to that like they do the gun policy and domestic beatings policy. Point being those things happened outside the facility. Why do you think the Texans handed Watson a stack of NDA's and told him to get his private massages somewhere else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 It's an epidemic! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 word on the streets is that there are a bunch of guys that are going to get hit with punishments from gambling in the near future. Hopefully no Bills make the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 24 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think it's easy to say they're stupid, the act is of course but there are reasonably intelligent people who make stupid mistakes for different motivations. Especially when it comes to gambling. When I was 25, I was bartending and had a great night in tips. I just wanted to go home and sleep but got talked into going to the casino. I lost everything I made that night and more. I had to work multiple double shifts in a row to get money back. So yeah, the smart thing to do is to just stay away and not be dumb. It shouldn't shock anyone that a 25 year old did something stupid. The difference here is that everyone of these players earns in the top two percent of all Americans every year/season, they are already rich, you weren’t rich…, and they are morons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: The difference here is that everyone of these players earns in the top two percent of all Americans every year/season, they are already rich, you weren’t rich…, and they are morons. They are people in this world that have lost everything...house, car, savings etc Gambling makes people do incredibly stupid things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said: they should allow them to bet any other sport but football, and if they are doing it on a treadmill in the facility who cares Sounds reasonable until to bet on any sport EXCEPT if they have friends in another sport, say MLB they can tell their friends which football players are hurt to affect their betting and the baseball players can return the favor by telling which baseball such as pitchers are hurt. And as far as in the facility that also makes sense if for no other reason liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: They are people in this world that have lost everything...house, car, savings etc Gambling makes people do incredibly stupid things. ^ this. For those posters who are younger folk, look up Art Schlichter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 59 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: That is pretty good. I did say idiot so it fits. But I think this is better. https://youtu.be/85V1Xewv20k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Irv said: I'm sure it went on as much or more before. Too many ways to get caught now. And I am sure there are more intelligent gambling players that set up ways they gamble without getting caught even now. Where there is a way to make some big money there will always be people that will be doing everything they can to get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: I didn’t see this posted, but with Rogers from Indianapolis now being under investigation for hundreds of wagers with numerous ones on the colts and the suspension of a group of Lions players for gambling on games and Ridley for a year.. Why are they being so dumb? Isn’t it obvious to everyone that if you gamble on the game you destroy the integrity of said game? 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: It’s really just small scale gambling. Some players are stupid. Was it not inevitable? Not even throwing games per se. A player can bet the under on a prop and make sure it stays under. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 It's almost like it's an addiction and they cannot help it or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, Haslett_Stomp said: ^ this. For those posters who are younger folk, look up Art Schlichter. WOW! I just read his wiki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Logic said: The NFL is walking a funny, fine little line right now. On the one hand, getting fully into bed with legal sports betting, promoting it three times per commercial break, adding handheld betting machines to stadium seatbacks, etc....all while telling players "gambling is bad!". And I'm not talking about gambling on other NFL games. If I understand it correctly, the NFL will discipline players for gambling any amount, on any sport. Ridiculous. No. They are banned from NFL football and banned from placing a bet in the team facility. These were bets placed at the team facility. Any bets on NFL games and he will probably be made an example out of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Was it not inevitable? Not even throwing games per se. A player can bet the under on a prop and make sure it stays under. Gambling has been going on forever. Stupid players are using mobile apps now. Nothing new is happening just dumb players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Rubes said: ...wait, what? I tried to find the article I read where the notion of every stadium seatback having a handheld betting device to place live bets was discussed. I could not. Perhaps it was nothing more than a fanciful notion that has no chance of ever coming to fruition. The NFL DID, however, vote to approve sportsbooks opening in NFL stadiums in states where sports betting is legal. https://www.playusa.com/nfl-stadium-sportsbooks-now-accepting-gameday-bets/ Edited June 6, 2023 by Logic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntieEm Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mark80 said: It's almost like it's an addiction and they cannot help it or something. It is a impulse control based addiction. Just as there are people that are addicted to shopping and some people just need to spend a set amount of money to get their rush. And the fact that the area in brain responsible for impulse control I believe is in the frontal lobe and is often damaged by repeated concussions . Hence we get the addicts of gambling, drugs, alcohol all spiraling out of control and we get the suicides. So the problem is certainly one I think the NFL holds liability for whether or not the bet is placed in facilities or anyplace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 The NFL should make it simple. Your gambling career is on hold until you are no longer in the league. That means all gambling. Caught? Banishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, AuntieEm said: It is a impulse control based addiction. Just as there are people that are addicted to shopping and some people just need to spend a set amount of money to get their rush. And the fact that the area in brain responsible for impulse control I believe is in the frontal lobe and is often damaged by repeated concussions . Hence we get the addicts of gambling, drugs, alcohol all spiraling out of control and we get the suicides. So the problem is certainly one I think the NFL holds liability for whether or not the bet is placed in facilities or anyplace. ….….or, they just didn’t know their location on their phone was going to ping as having been done at a team facility. The devil can be in the details. “How will they know?” When you get caught the “how” doesn’t matter. Just don’t do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleezoid Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 42 minutes ago, mrags said: That is pretty good. I did say idiot so it fits. But I think this is better. https://youtu.be/85V1Xewv20k Never a big fan of that show, but yes, those are good! So, while you're allowing a little latitude, I got one more: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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