Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 We are stuck and there is no way out. Pegula is not going to get rid of Beane and McDermott. McDermott has done too much for the franchise and the city to be canned. So we will waste another year on Dungy 2.0 only to come up short again. We are now on three years wasted of the best QB play this team has ever had. And nothing to show for it. Next year will be four and the cap situation will only keep getting worse. This team needed a teacher and a father figure. Now they need a mercenary assassin. Give Josh Sean Payton or Jim Harbaugh and Bills win the SuperBowl next year. Its not going to happen so we had just be prepared for another year of this crap. When McDermott says we will learn and grow from this I hope some reporter has the balls to say when do you stop learning and winning instead? 11 2 6 31 2 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I give McDermott the option to have 2 new coordinators to start the season or then we part ways. 6 11 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 We are in early to mid round playoff exit purgatory, while burrow is playing to get to his 2nd SB or Mahomes to his 3rd. This team is never going to win a SB with McDermott. Never prepared, always outcoached. 16 12 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiezzz Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Won't happen. I wish it would though. IMO, Sean is not a game day coach, he's terrible. Give me Sean Peyton all day long. 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 This is 100% correct. McD is to Bflo as Tomlin is to Pittsburgh. "Good enough" is good enough. 1 1 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, jamiezzz said: Won't happen. I wish it would though. IMO, Sean is not a game day coach, he's terrible. Give me Sean Peyton all day long. Peyton was a loser who couldn't win anything with years of stacked New Orleans teams and was responsible for Bountygate. 4 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, iccrewman112 said: I give McDermott the option to have 2 new coordinators to start the season or then we part ways. He needs to realize the defensive concepts need to be updated. Mix zone and man more often and disguises them fare better than we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: We are stuck and there is no way out. Pegula is not going to get rid of Beane and McDermott. McDermott has done too much for the franchise and the city to be canned. So we will waste another year on Dungy 2.0 only to come up short again. We are now on three years wasted of the best QB play this team has ever had. And nothing to show for it. Next year will be four and the cap situation will only keep getting worse. This team needed a teacher and a father figure. Now they need a mercenary assassin. Give Josh Sean Payton or Jim Harbaugh and Bills win the SuperBowl next year. Its not going to happen so we had just be prepared for another year of this crap. When McDermott says we will learn and grow from this I hope some reporter has the balls to say when do you stop learning and winning instead? Jim Harbaugh win a Superbowl??????? What parallel dimension are you in? No coach comes up small in big spots more than Jim Harbaugh. 3 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Spot on. I’ve said it for 2 years. McClappy won’t lead us anywhere. You get banned on here for saying anything about the guy tho. 12 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Ironically, we get our butts kicked by Cincinnati, who had to fire a VERY successful head coach to get where they are now. Do we have another: 4 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 minute ago, BillnutinHouston said: This is 100% correct. McD is to Bflo as Tomlin is to Pittsburgh. "Good enough" is good enough. Tomlin won 2 Superbowls 6 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 We are the Dolphins of the 90's. We have a great QB and we win a lot of games but it's all for not because there are better teams in the AFC and we won't get rid of our coach because everyone loves him. Purgatory indeed 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, Nextmanup said: Ironically, we get our butts kicked by Cincinnati, who had to fire a VERY successful head coach to get where they are now. Do we have another: Not even close. Marvin Lewis lost in the first round every year for like 8 or 9 straight years McD only lost in the first round his first season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatic8989 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Tomlin won 2 Superbowls 1. Beat Cards then lost to Packers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Couldn’t disagree more with this post 1 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Do you think the Eagles said this every year of Andy Reid's tenure there? What about his first 5 or 6 years in Kansas City? He is a HOF head coached that took over 20 years to win his first Super Bowl. Relax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatic8989 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Not even close. Marvin Lewis lost in the first round every year for like 8 or 9 straight years McD only lost in the first round his first season. Lost in first round against Houston too. That should have been a win too. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) The offense needs an experienced coordinator. No ifs, ands, or buts. Dorsey is flat out in over his head. Edited January 23, 2023 by pigpen65 2 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: I give McDermott the option to have 2 new coordinators to start the season or then we part ways. I don’t know if we give him am ultimatum, but this is pretty much what needs to happen. As bad as our loss was today, this might be the least disappointed I've been with McD at a season end. I thought he did a great job this year. But he has to address the coordinators - we went from having one championship level guy to zero 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Billsfanatic8989 said: Lost in first round against Houston too. That should have been a win too. Yeah his first game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: We are stuck and there is no way out. Pegula is not going to get rid of Beane and McDermott. McDermott has done too much for the franchise and the city to be canned. So we will waste another year on Dungy 2.0 only to come up short again. We are now on three years wasted of the best QB play this team has ever had. And nothing to show for it. Next year will be four and the cap situation will only keep getting worse. This team needed a teacher and a father figure. Now they need a mercenary assassin. Give Josh Sean Payton or Jim Harbaugh and Bills win the SuperBowl next year. Its not going to happen so we had just be prepared for another year of this crap. When McDermott says we will learn and grow from this I hope some reporter has the balls to say when do you stop learning and winning instead? Its not going to happen as you said twice.. so I hope venting about it here helps in some way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Lots of bad takes right now 1 4 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: I give McDermott the option to have 2 new coordinators to start the season or then we part ways. Let's not kid ourselves. Sean McDermott is the Marty Schottenheimer version of this era. Great wonderful likeable guy dripping in culture, process and team bonding. But as a defensive HC, he has now failed in his last 4 playoff exits. He runs a soft zone which requires a monster pass rush that he does not have. He knew he failed on the 3 DE's when he went after Von. Meanwhile Josh's OL gets worse every year. Pure stupidity. 6 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Super Fan Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: We are stuck and there is no way out. Pegula is not going to get rid of Beane and McDermott. McDermott has done too much for the franchise and the city to be canned. So we will waste another year on Dungy 2.0 only to come up short again. We are now on three years wasted of the best QB play this team has ever had. And nothing to show for it. Next year will be four and the cap situation will only keep getting worse. This team needed a teacher and a father figure. Now they need a mercenary assassin. Give Josh Sean Payton or Jim Harbaugh and Bills win the SuperBowl next year. Its not going to happen so we had just be prepared for another year of this crap. When McDermott says we will learn and grow from this I hope some reporter has the balls to say when do you stop learning and winning instead? Stop the $850 million dollar check to the new Buffalo Bills stadium that will get that bum Terry Pegula to fire this Buffalo Bills coaching staff real fast. Because it is all about the money for this horrible owner in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: We are stuck and there is no way out. Pegula is not going to get rid of Beane and McDermott. McDermott has done too much for the franchise and the city to be canned. So we will waste another year on Dungy 2.0 only to come up short again. We are now on three years wasted of the best QB play this team has ever had. And nothing to show for it. Next year will be four and the cap situation will only keep getting worse. This team needed a teacher and a father figure. Now they need a mercenary assassin. Give Josh Sean Payton or Jim Harbaugh and Bills win the SuperBowl next year. Its not going to happen so we had just be prepared for another year of this crap. When McDermott says we will learn and grow from this I hope some reporter has the balls to say when do you stop learning and winning instead? I still have faith in Beane, but I just don't think we ever get there with this coaching staff. Even when the players change for the better, the same failed philosophy remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Its not going to happen as you said twice.. so I hope venting about it here helps in some way For me it definitely helps dull the pain. Well, partially the venting, partially all the pills and alcohol 😅 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I may not know exactly what goes on at OBD, but it seems to me that McDermott gives to long of a leash to both Frazier and Dorsey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 McD has done a good job but we have been knocking on the door for 3 years. We spent the majority of our draft capitol on his D and when times get tough they let us down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Beane hit on the QB. But outside of that the high draft picks have been bad. Tons of defensive players who are invisible. QB is the tough one now he's got to hit on some high picks. Edited January 23, 2023 by TheFunPolice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfanatic8989 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Yeah his first game. Thought we were discussing McD's PO resume and not JA's. Got mixed up. Correct. Houston loss was JA's first time in postseason. Jacksonville loss two years prior was McD's first PO game here. I'm not ready to get rid of the head coach. If they want to change coordinators...fine. They do need a scheme change on D when it gets to playoff time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Jim Harbaugh win a Superbowl??????? What parallel dimension are you in? No coach comes up small in big spots more than Jim Harbaugh. He almost won two SuperBowls with Colin Kapernick. He was one holding call away from winning the trophy. He's done far more than McD has ever done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: Let's not kid ourselves. Sean McDermott is the Marty Schottenheimer version of this era. Great wonderful likeable guy dripping in culture, process and team bonding. But as a defensive HC, he has now failed in his last 4 playoff exits. He runs a soft zone which requires a monster pass rush that he does not have. He knew he failed on the 3 DE's when he went after Von. Meanwhile Josh's OL gets worse every year. Pure stupidity. I would really love to hear from the folks who think the Bills can win a championship with this current coaching staff. What's going to be the difference maker with the same coaches and same coaching philosophy? I just don't see it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazman11 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Do you think the Eagles said this every year of Andy Reid's tenure there? What about his first 5 or 6 years in Kansas City? He is a HOF head coached that took over 20 years to win his first Super Bowl. Relax Allen isn’t going to play for 20 years. Franchise QB don’t just fall out of trees. There is a finite window to win and that’s now. This staff has learned nothing from the AFC Championship loss nor last years 13 seconds debacle. Always coach scared in the biggest moments. Now we have wasted 3 years of Josh Allen’s prime. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Do you think the Eagles said this every year of Andy Reid's tenure there? What about his first 5 or 6 years in Kansas City? He is a HOF head coached that took over 20 years to win his first Super Bowl. Relax Cool.....in 20 years Josh will be 46. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Do you think the Eagles said this every year of Andy Reid's tenure there? What about his first 5 or 6 years in Kansas City? He is a HOF head coached that took over 20 years to win his first Super Bowl. Relax But he switched coordinators a dozens times to save his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgg716 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 13 minutes ago, iccrewman112 said: I give McDermott the option to have 2 new coordinators to start the season or then we part ways. You want him to pick the DC though? Can’t mandate a scheme change I would think, he’ll just pick a new guy, to run this same garbage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, Blazman11 said: Allen isn’t going to play for 20 years. Franchise QB don’t just fall out of trees. There is a finite window to win and that’s now. This staff has learned nothing from the AFC Championship loss nor last years 13 seconds debacle. Always coach scared in the biggest moments. Now we have wasted 3 years of Josh Allen’s prime. No sh*t Allen isn't gonna play for 20 years, my point is, Andy Reid has had 3 mediocre QBs before Mahomes finally got him there after 20 years and won one. My point is, I still take McDermott over whatever else is out there at this point after what he has done for this franchise 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: He almost won two SuperBowls with Colin Kapernick. He was one holding call away from winning the trophy. He's done far more than McD has ever done. He bottles every big game and just lost to a much inferior TCU team in a playoff. Harbaugh is a turnaround merchant, not a winner. Maybe McDermott is the same. But replacing one with the other would be a frying pan and fire scenario. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, McBean said: Spot on. I’ve said it for 2 years. McClappy won’t lead us anywhere. You get banned on here for saying anything about the guy tho. I've been banned before for being contrary and to the herd mentality. I can take it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: Cool.....in 20 years Josh will be 46. I didn't say Josh would be our QB all 20 years 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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