We're onto Miami(Miami's headed to Buffalo)...opening line BUF -10! Game at 1:05 PM SUN 1/15

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I can’t see any way Tua doesn’t play. Just like when Houston didn’t have JJ Watt the entire year then as soon as we get them, here comes this tool running out of the smoke with 6 gloves on. We are the Bills. They will do an experimental head transplant and Tua will play. Every other team gets their horseshit backups but we got to beat them at full capacity 3x

[Warriorspikes51]

Frankly I hope Tua just retires for his own good. A 4th concussion in 4 months would be horrific and not something anyone wants to witness….

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Wow -10 seems to imply bettors don’t think tua will be playing.  You’d think it would be closer to 5 ish if he was 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

I’m surprised we didn’t get the day and time yet

[Playoffs?]

5 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I can’t see any way Tua doesn’t play. Just like when Houston didn’t have JJ Watt the entire year then as soon as we get them, here comes this tool running out of the smoke with 6 gloves on. We are the Bills. They will do an experimental head transplant and Tua will play. Every other team gets their horseshit backups but we got to beat them at full capacity 3x

Yep, kind of my thoughts too. It sounds insane, but it’s so true. Buffalo has dealt with more adversity than ever before.  
 

Fully anticipate Tua will be out there… it’s a strong gut feeling. I will have a ton of respect for Miami if they shut him down.. but I bet they’re gonna push the limits given they haven’t had a playoff win in 20 years, and their fans are starving for it. They’ve proven to be ‘shady’ in the past… and they need him on the field. 

[stevestojan]

25 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Is there Tua news or some other news related to the drastic move from -7.5 to -10? 

It went from 7.5 to 10 because bettors saw 7.5 and jumped all over it. The line moves as the bets move. 
 

So it appears no one has told the betting world what many at TBD know: that this team that went 13-3 with those three losses by a combined 8 points, actually sucks. 

[VaMilBill]

5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Wow -10 seems to imply bettors don’t think tua will be playing.  You’d think it would be closer to 5 ish if he was 

If he was playing I would place it at 3. These teams, with the matchups, are pretty evenly matched. I think their sort of offense can easily exploit our defense. We essentially need to rely on our offense putting out otherwise we lose. 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

It’s tradition! We almost always had to run through the Dolphins in the playoffs to get to the SB during the Kelly era also…and that always turned out sunny side right—we had epic beat downs of them/Marino along the way. 

[Playoffs?]

2 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’m surprised we didn’t get the day and time yet

Wouldn’t be surprised if NFL gives Tua/Miami more time to get healthy. Late Sunday or even Monday could happen. Or is this too tin-foily?

[mannc]

Makes no sense to play Tua.  Even if they pull the miracle upset in Buffalo, they’d have to play in KC the next week.  Not worth it.

[MasterStrategist]

4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Wow -10 seems to imply bettors don’t think tua will be playing.  You’d think it would be closer to 5 ish if he was 

I think someone posted already, but here's the thinking on betting line:

1. Tua plays: Bills -7 or -7.5

2. No Tua/Bridegwater: -13.5 or -14.5

 

I think there's a very low chance Teddy is back from his pinky injury, in 2 weeks.  

 

The -10.5 line is basically giving Tua 50/50 chance of playing... if the line gets to -13 or -14 throughout the week, then I'd speculate Tua is out

 

 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

2 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

Wouldn’t be surprised if NFL gives Tua/Miami more time to get healthy. Late Sunday or even Monday could happen. Or is this too tin-foily?

I’m expecting tua to be cleared 2mrw regardless. We aren’t ever getting a break…the guy is going to play 

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, MasterStrategist said:

I think someone posted already, but here's the thinking on betting line:

1. Tua plays: Bills -7 or -7.5

2. No Tua/Bridegwater: -13.5 or -14.5

 

I think there's a very low chance Teddy is back from his pinky injury, in 2 weeks.  

 

The -10.5 line is basically giving Tua 50/50 chance of playing... if the line gets to -13 or -14 throughout the week, then I'd speculate Tua is out

 

 

was the injury to Bridgewater on his throwing hand?

[mannc]

1 minute ago, VaMilBill said:

If he was playing I would place it at 3. These teams, with the matchups, are pretty evenly matched. I think their sort of offense can easily exploit our defense. We essentially need to rely on our offense putting out otherwise we lose. 

I think Bills -7 is the line if Tua plays; probably -11.5 or more if he’s definitely out.  

[Big Blitz]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Frankly I hope Tua just retires for his own good. A 4th concussion in 4 months would be horrific and not something anyone wants to witness….

 

This is the only thing preventing him from playing - my guess is he could probably clear protocol right now - at least this week.   
 

If he were concussed again, the Dolphins, the doctors, the league all look clueless or worse.  
 

But if he’s cleared, the Dolphins as a team won’t prevent him from playing IF he wants to play.  That’s where I could see this going - McDaniel even said “it’s up to the doctors.”  They won’t step in and say “no, we are weighing your health and a lot of other things here.”   
 

And they never said he’s shut down for the year.

 

 

I feel really bad for this kid.  He should have never played against the Bengals.   And we probably aren’t having this  conversation.  
 

[MasterStrategist]

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

was the injury to Bridgewater on his throwing hand?

Yes, dislocation on throwing hand

[Playoffs?]

2 minutes ago, mannc said:

Makes no sense to play Tua.  Even if they pull the miracle upset in Buffalo, they’d have to play in KC the next week.  Not worth it.

Disagree on the why. They should just assume they’ll never beat KC, so just throw away the first game too?

 

It makes no sense to play Tua because if he gets one more concussion this season, his brain is going to be jelly. 

[newcam2012]

26 minutes ago, BillzFreak said:

I understand what you're saying but even if Tua plays its his first playoff game in one if not most hostile atmospheres in the NFL. So there will be big big time nerves for him. Mistakes are amplified so I got to assume that will come into play during the game.

I agree. In an earlier post, I stated I think the Bills win because of the home field advantage and Allen. 

 

I'm not really that concerned with Tua all that much. He's not elite or a game changer. It's more about how his teammates rally around him and play better. His weapons are so good that he only has to limit his mistakes and make a few big plays. He's capable of doing that. 

 

I mean the Bills just played them not long ago. It was almost like a playoff game if you will. The Dolphins had every chance to win that game. They have to feel good about their chances. 

Edited January 9, 2023 by newcam2012

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, VaMilBill said:

If he was playing I would place it at 3. These teams, with the matchups, are pretty evenly matched. I think their sort of offense can easily exploit our defense. We essentially need to rely on our offense putting out otherwise we lose. 

Tua can really only throw to his first read in the middle of the field on those quick timing routes so I don’t think it’s THAT close. They certainly could win though.  
he’s accurate but his tendencies are pretty easy to gameplan against.  
 

our oline was a mess last time missing two starters…I think we would’ve won comfortably otherwise.  Looks like tyreek and waddle are banged up too 

 

id set it in the -5 through -7.5 type range 

[TH3]

36 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Disagree with most of your take. Your premise is outrageous. Morse being out was not the only reason the game was close. Go back and watch the game. I didn't see Morse missing tackles on Mosert. Did you? The Dolphins WR dropped a TD pass as well. The Bills got several generous calls from the refs. McDaniels made some very questionable play calls that probably cost them the game. The Bills were fortunate to win the game.

 

No Bills fan should feel comfortable going into this game. Especially after watching the defense play today. I think the Bills win but it will be a dog fight. It wouldn't surprise me if the Dolphins upset the Bills either.

 

Tua should retire before he gets seriously hurt. Of course he shouldn't play but I expect 100% that he will. Think what you want about Tua. One thing that's not debatable is that he makes the Dolphins significantly better. 

I feel comfortable.

[mannc]

Just now, Playoffs? said:

Disagree on the why. They should just assume they’ll never beat KC, so just throw away the first game too?

 

It makes no sense to play Tua because if he gets one more concussion this season, his brain is going to be jelly. 

My point is that the Dolphins are going anywhere this year no matter who plays QB, so they might as well keep Tua on the bench.

[Luka]

Lost to them once, beat them once. Both extremely close games. After watching our defense the later half of the year, I'd say this game is a coin flip if Tua plays. That's depressing.

[Dr Krentist]

When do they announce the day and time?

[97bills]

3 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

It is a home game. So there's that.

 

But...this is the matchup I did not want. They are fully capable of putting points up on this defense. Especially if Tua is healthy.

 

 

I hate to tell you but so can chargers - CIN - KC .. if we get knocked out by Miami then we had no chance anyway. On the side note I really don’t think our defense is good enough to make it to the Super Bowl. Unless Allen plays like he did in that playoff game last year, and can he do that for 4 games, idk… that’s a tall task. GO Bills 

[Georgia Bill]

1 minute ago, Luka said:

Lost to them once, beat them once. Both extremely close games. After watching our defense the later half of the year, I'd say this game is a coin flip if Tua plays. That's depressing.

This isn't the Niner's defense we'll be playing.  We just need to score more points then them.  Nothing to be afraid of...

[Ya Digg?]

2 minutes ago, Luka said:

Lost to them once, beat them once. Both extremely close games. After watching our defense the later half of the year, I'd say this game is a coin flip if Tua plays. That's depressing.

They lost 5 of their last 6 games and barely won today-what have they done that makes you think this game is a coin flip?!?!

[BlazinBill]

7 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I’m expecting tua to be cleared 2mrw regardless. We aren’t ever getting a break…the guy is going to play 

I looked at there injury report for this week's game and he was DNP all week- pretty sure it's a multiple step process to be cleared- like limited practice and no symptoms - thought there was 5 steps I'm not certain.

I'm all for him getting cleared if he's ready -i just don't think it's tomorrow. Mid week wouldn't surprise me though.

Every game is gonna be a fight with the teams remaining so let kick in the door and give it our best.

Better teams typically win rubber matches. If we are trying to get to the SB it was never going to be a cake walk

[TH3]

5 minutes ago, Luka said:

Lost to them once, beat them once. Both extremely close games. After watching our defense the later half of the year, I'd say this game is a coin flip if Tua plays. That's depressing.

You need to turn that frown upside down!

[newcam2012]

31 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Morse AND Bates were BOTH out which created mayhem on the O-line and allowed Miami to get back into the game as we wasted multiple possessions on offense straightening it out.

 

Mosert caught the Bills by surprise.  He won't this time.

 

I don't feel comfortable about any playoff game. I worry about them all because we're playing good football teams.  But with that being said I don't particularly fear the Dolphins and think they are a good match-up for us. The pearl clutching and pissing the bed on this thread over Tua and the Dolphins is extraordinary IMO.

 

I don't know how you can be 100% certain Tua will play and that if he does play he will be highly effective.  The NFL is going to be keeping tabs on Miami and their decision process of playing Tua. Given the circumstances of Tua's concussions this season it's likely he's not in the normal NFL concussion protocol but in something even more stringent.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mosert was effective because the Bills were focused in stopping Hill and Waddle. That's exactly why the Dolphins are a difficult match up for the Bills. The Bills defense usually does well with one dimensional teams like the Ravens, Titans, Bears, and Browns. I don't buy the Bills were caught off guard and that's why Mosert was effective. Another ridiculous statement. Stop please! Their running game was effective throughout the game. 

 

The Bills defense isn't getting better. I'd argue that the Bills defense cannot be trusted. The pass rush is inconsistent and the secondary isn't good. I truly believe it's Allen and the offense that's going win playoff games for the Bills. 

[John from Riverside]

3 hours ago, Bandito said:

I hope not.

It’s the playoffs
You’re going to get the other teams best regardless of who the team is bills just need to deal with it

[BillzFreak]

10 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I agree. In an earlier post, I stated I think the Bills win because of the home field advantage and Allen. 

 

I'm not really that concerned with Tua all that much. He's not elite or a game changer. It's more about how his teammates rally around him and play better. His weapons are so good that he only has to limit his mistakes and make a few big plays. He's capable of doing that. 

 

I mean the Bills just played them not long ago. It was almost like a playoff game if you will. The Dolphins had every chance to win that game. They have to feel good about their chances. 

Almost a playoff game but it wasn't there was a next week after that. This games a different monster so to speak. You thought that crowd was loud the last time we played, that was nothing compared to what's coming.

[Dr.Sack]

I wonder if the NFL will look ahead at the weather forecast given this game can be Sat/Sun or Mon. 

[Luka]

2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Mosert was effective because the Bills were focused in stopping Hill and Waddle. That's exactly why the Dolphins are a difficult match up for the Bills. The Bills defense usually does well with one dimensional teams like the Ravens, Titans, Bears, and Browns. I don't buy the Bills were caught off guard and that's why Mosert was effective. Another ridiculous statement. Stop please! Their running game was effective throughout the game. 

 

The Bills defense isn't getting better. I'd argue that the Bills defense cannot be trusted. The pass rush is inconsistent and the secondary isn't good. I truly believe it's Allen and the offense that's going win playoff games for the Bills. 

 Was it not the defense that gave up the ghost against KC last year? How quickly every one forgets I guess. I'm with you, I do not trust the defense overall. They really need to generate turnovers in the post season or every game is going to be a shootout. 

[mikemac2001]

1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said:

I wonder if the NFL will look ahead at the weather forecast given this game can be Sat/Sun or Mon. 

Last year they had the 4/5 seed as the MNF I doubt they will penalize the 2nd seed 

[Since1981]

1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said:

I wonder if the NFL will look ahead at the weather forecast given this game can be Sat/Sun or Mon

If nfl does think about weather than the wisest move is to put it Saturday at 1pm so that it can slide out, if weather has an issue. 

[Bubba Gump]

We knocked NE out of the playoffs today. Next week we will knock Miami out of the playoffs. Not sure why everyone is so scared of them. They were exposed even before Tua got hurt. The Bills will spank them no matter who is behind center.

[Warriorspikes51]

Just now, Bubba Gump said:

We knocked NE out of the playoffs today. Next week we will knock Miami out of the playoffs. Not sure why everyone is so scared of them. They were exposed even before Tua got hurt. The Bills will spank them no matter who is behind center.

Certainly hope so!

[Mopreme]

This is the playoffs. No easy opponents. If they can’t beat Miami at home then forgot advancing past Cinci and KC.  

[Awwufelloff]

40 minutes ago, BBills_88 said:

Mia -> Cincy-> KC-> win Superbowl !!

Same as last year except with New England in first round, and kc in 2nd 

[newcam2012]

11 minutes ago, Luka said:

Lost to them once, beat them once. Both extremely close games. After watching our defense the later half of the year, I'd say this game is a coin flip if Tua plays. That's depressing.

No way is it a coin flip. The Bills are at home, have one of the best QBs on the planet, and very experienced. The Bills have the advantage over the Dolphins. Now, that doesn't mean the Dolphins can't win. However, this isn't a coin flip game.