Damar Hamlin - Now (1/11/2023) discharged from Buf Gen & “recovering at home”

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

 

Tomlin is a great person by all accounts. I was listening to a former play - didn’t catch the name - and they said back in their playing days he BEGGED Tomlin to let him play after an injury. Even brought in doctors and so forth to convince Tomlin. After a bit, he kicked everyone out of the room except the player and told him “if you were my child, I wouldn’t let you play” and that was that. He cares about his players.

Ryan Clark. I think he has sickle cell

and playing at high altitude in Denver was super dangerous. Tomlin wouldn’t let him play. It was a pretty huge game too. 

[Big Turk]

 

[Beck Water]

5 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Thanks for posting this Yolo. Do we know if the medical team that helped Hamlin was Bills staff or a mix of Bills and stadium?

 

Mix.  Early photos he's surrounded by Bills staff, but emergency physician, airway specialist and paramedics would have quickly been summoned.

Edited January 3, 2023 by Beck Water

[Ta111]

3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Tomlin is a great person by all accounts. I was listening to a former play - didn’t catch the name - and they said back in their playing days he BEGGED Tomlin to let him play after an injury. Even brought in doctors and so forth to convince Tomlin. After a bit, he kicked everyone out of the room except the player and told him “if you were my child, I wouldn’t let you play” and that was that. He cares about his players.

Ryan Clark. He also was on ESPN last night. Really good guy.

[HurlyBurly51]

17 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

 

It's Adam Zyglis, who made it following Kevin Everett's injury. 

May they never break this out ever again.

[Augie]

13 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

Given roster turnover I can’t imagine there are any two players in the NFL with more than two degrees of separation.

 

Even Kevin Bacon played in a couple preseason games for the Chargers. 

 

 

 

Maybe…..  😋

 

It’s very clear how tight knit the league is in general, and the Bills in particular. I’ll give ESPN credit (something I very rarely feel the need to do). They limited the replays and zoomed out rather than zoomed in.  Nobody needed to see any more than the players reactions to know how serious it was. It was awkward to fill air the time initially, and that’s understandable. Scott Van Pelt and the Ryan Clark did a VERY commendable job coming on hours early and rallied under difficult circumstances. 

 

 

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Edited January 3, 2023 by Augie

[jimmy10]

7 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Thanks for posting this Yolo. Do we know if the medical team that helped Hamlin was Bills staff or a mix of Bills and stadium?

From what little we saw on TV, it sure looked like an all hands on deck situation. 

[Amorgus]

My co-worker's teenaged son just went through something very similar but it was all head trauma. The kid made a tackle, walked to the sideline, then just dropped and started convulsing. He had to be put into a coma as well while they took the pressure off his swollen brain. Obviously when she heard about Hamlin it triggered the hell out of her, but her son did survive. I thought of the two of them immediately night as well so it hit me extra hard. 

[HappyDays]

32 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

Mr. Eisen very eloquently stated what many of us are dealing with today.

 

I know I am guilty of celebrating the violence of the sport, literally reveling in the physical punishment our defense inflicted on Mike White of the Jets a few weeks back.  If Milano's hit had been a couple of inches further up and to the right, at a specific time in White's heartbeat... who knows?

They're human beings.

 

The weird thing about this sport is that the worst injuries always seem to come from innocent looking hits.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Even Kevin Bacon played in a couple preseason games for the Chargers. 

 

 

 

Maybe…..  😋

 

It’s very clear how tight knit the league is in general, and the Bills in particular. I’ll give ESPN credit (something I very rarely feel the need to do). They limited the replays and zoomed out rather than zoomed in.  Nobody needed to see any more than the players reactions to know how serious it was. It was awkward to fill air the time initially, and that’s understandable. Scott Van Pelt and the Ryan Clark did a VERY commendable job coming on hours early and rallied under difficult circumstances. 

 

 

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I agree completely.  For whatever it's worth I hope Clark and Van Pelt win some sort of broadcasting award for last night.  They had to do a job that was very different than the one they thought they came to work to do and they did it with aplomb.

[Beast]

I thought the crying buffalo helmet was for when Ralph Wilson died? Not that it matters.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

The weird thing about this sport is that the worst injuries always seem to come from innocent looking hits.

 

Makes me think of Dale Earnhardt too.

[Herc11]

21 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

They might choose to treat medically until stable:   https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/aortic-dissection/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20369499 

 

It doesn't appear to be a vascular injury. That would result in what is commonly known as a heart attack. When a heart attack occurs, vessels to the heart are not able to supply sufficient blood to the heart muscle itself. This would require intervention to restore the blood supply. 

 

Due to the fact an AED was used, this means his heart was in a shockable rythym which has to do with the electrical conduction in the heart.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, Herc11 said:

 

It doesn't appear to be a vascular injury. That would result in what is commonly known as a heart attack. When a heart attack occurs, vessels to the heart are not able to supply sufficient blood to the heart muscle itself. This would require intervention to restore the blood supply. 

 

Due to the fact an AED was used, this means his heart was in a shockable rythym which has to do with the electrical conduction in the heart.

read the linked information.  not talking about a heart attack.  not limiting vascular to the coronary arteries.  all arrhythmias are "shockable".  Some respond better to other measures.

Edited January 3, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

 

I agree completely.  For whatever it's worth I hope Clark and Van Pelt win some sort of broadcasting award for last night.  They had to do a job that was very different than the one they thought they came to work to do and they did it with aplomb.

 

I’ll never watch the replay of that game, but I just might go back and appreciate how well they did in such a terrible situation on the fly. I thought it was remarkable. 

[JerseyBills]

Bills fan talking about the stadium experience.  Gut wrenching 

Edited January 3, 2023 by JerseyBills

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Nice article about Damar from Pittsburgh papers:
 

“He’s the role model,” said Kim Spriggs, a family development specialist and preschool teacher for Focus On Renewal. “I’ve worked with a lot of kids from preschool to high school. He’s everyone’s role model. The kids around here adore him.”

 

So much so that Spriggs spent part of Tuesday’s classes having her students make get-well-soon cards for Hamlin, who remained in critical condition after spending the night in the ICU at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center.

Spriggs joked that her kids were updating her on Hamlin’s condition, then recalled how someone last year dressed up as Hamlin for Halloween. Her phone background is a youth football photo of Hamlin. Roberts keeps another from his Little Vikings days, too.

 

“He’s just a genuinely good person,” Spriggs said. “He’s nice to all the kids. He hangs out with them. We’re just used to it at this point.”

 

 

[Tenhigh]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

Yep, Baseball Heaven, and right: no helmet. Freak accident, of course.

Scary stuff.  We had a pitcher take a liner to the chest on my son's 12U team and he just dropped. Dr. Said his heart guard probably saved his life.  

[ehfeuh57]

19 hours ago, Ray Stonada said:

If the NFL makes the Bills forfeit they will be the worst people I can imagine 

 

Their teammate is in critical condition and they want them to play?

 

 

OK, so you have a problem with the several posters here maintaining we should forfeit. Or is it OK if we forfeit voluntarily?

[Draconator]

Tom Brady donated $10,000 to Damar's charity.

[CDogg20]

18 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

 

Makes me think of Dale Earnhardt too.

Same number too, weird coincidence 

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

2 minutes ago, Draconator said:

Tom Brady donated $10,000 to Damar's charity.

 

I hope that the money that's coming in is managed well and a large charitable organization is born out of it helping thousands of underprivileged kids.  That's the legacy Hamlin deserves no matter how long he lives.

[YoloinOhio]

 

 

[MAJBobby]

18 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

I think you have no idea what working in a busy hospital is like, they aren't sitting around watching tv.

Actually there is a dedicated trauma team

for the NFL. What would they be doing except watching the game. 

[NoSaint]

40 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

Given roster turnover I can’t imagine there are any two players in the NFL with more than two degrees of separation.

yea, between college, camps, regional connections (high schools with an nfl talent or two find their way to state championships often), shared agents, shared marketing guys, pro bowls, etc… guys are on each others radars for a lot of years in that super elite skill range that makes up the nfl brotherhood. And that’s all outside the roster churn of playing together or getting together for fun in the off-season 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Big Turk]

 

[North Buffalo]

While talking to docs in ER where I worked last night they too agreed it was a heart electrical issue brought on by timing of the hit to the chest... from one doc "this is a known risk with all contact sports". 

 

But I wanted to clarify... a vascular injury such an aortic dissection ( where the lining on the inside of aorta pulls away from the aortic wall) or an Aneurysm ( a weakening in the aortic wall) probably would have burst and Hamlin would no longer be with us...

Coronary blockages can cleaned out result heart attacks if not addressed..  Coronary arteries supply oxygenated blood to heart muscle... There are two nodes alongside the heart that control the contractions of the heart and when they get shocked it messes the rhythm up which is likely what happened to Damar... Older folks such as my Dad suffers from AFib and atrial flutter both signaling issues due to age... he has a pacemaker now and an aed built into it to keep his heart in rhythm.  

[Dr.Mantis_Toboggan]

I agree with the sentiment that last night probably changed most people in some way, especially in terms of what winning or losing really means to them/us as fans.  I care more about this team, this particular group of guys who have represented the Buffalo Bills and everything that means, in a way no other has before them, than I do about winning homefield advantage or a Super Bowl… Keep fighting Damar.

 

 

 

[Special K]

Was thinking about any comparisons in sports to what happened yesterday, and one of the first ones I came up with was the death of Dale Earnhardt Sr. at the Daytona 500.

 

I then realized that Earnhardt’s car number and Hamlin’s jersey number were both 3....freaky coincidence.

[Herc11]

22 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

read the linked information.  not talking about a heart attack.  not limiting vascular to the coronary arteries.  all arrhythmias are "shockable".  Some respond better to other measures.

My response was for the poster you were replying to, who seemed to be asking if he should have a vascular repair intervention. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

9 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

We should put together a shirt like that for TBD to show support and take the money and do something with it

[The Wiz]

Between Dan Orlovsky saying a prayer on live TV and Sal C. on WGR talking about how Damar's mother was asking to see her son from the stands while he was on the sideline, this is absolutely breaking me.

[Motorin']

4 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Between Dan Orlovsky saying a prayer on live TV and Sal C. on WGR talking about how Damar's mother was asking to see her son from the stands while he was on the sideline, this is absolutely breaking me.

 

[Augie]

16 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Actually there is a dedicated trauma team

for the NFL. What would they be doing except watching the game. 

 

Praying they get to keep watching? That’s what I’d be doing. 

3 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

 

I was a bit surprised to hear Cowherd today say “let’s pray”, and I’m pleasantly shocked to see this. 

[BuffaloBaumer]

It's amazing how little I care about the rest of the season. If the Bills turned around and said our season is over, I would not care one bit. It's gonna be really tough to watch this team play football again.

[BrainwashedBillsFan]

21 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Actually there is a dedicated trauma team

for the NFL. What would they be doing except watching the game. 

Hahaha yeah ok 

[Motorin']

 

[NoSaint]

Just now, BuffaloBaumer said:

It's amazing how little I care about the rest of the season. If the Bills turned around and said our season is over, I would not care one bit. It's gonna be really tough to watch this team play football again.

they will rally and it’ll be empowering for fans to support and teammates to experience 

 

today is dark but sports also bring out the best 

[BrainwashedBillsFan]

16 minutes ago, Special K said:

Was thinking about any comparisons in sports to what happened yesterday, and one of the first ones I came up with was the death of Dale Earnhardt Sr. at the Daytona 500.

 

I then realized that Earnhardt’s car number and Hamlin’s jersey number were both 3....freaky coincidence.

I was a big dale fan and I would agree with you, feels very similar