Snowballs - fair game if aimed at Dolphins bench?

[BillsPride12]

3 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

Right!  I vividly remember a Patriots game in the early 2000s Brady era(very early part of the run but I can't remember what year specifically) that had the same thing going on.  This is back when the Bills were absolutely pathetic and I remember watching the visual and seeing how cool it looked and being jealous of them at the time.

 

Second point and I'm sure this is going to be an unpopular opinion on here but I think social media etc. is making it sound like everybody that was throwing snow was deliberately trying to hit players with intent to injure but from my perspective being at the game it was much, much more playful and innocent.  The snow was soft not "ice balls" and people were just tossing it around whenever the Bills made a big play(think of it as throwing confetti).  Nobody was really upset or pissed about it in my section people were just kinda laughing and going along with it.  I get maybe from watching on TV it probably looks pretty bad but from being there in the moment it really wasn't a bunch of degenerates out to hurt people.  That's my two cents about the matter.

Found the game I was referring to

New England v.s. Miami 2003.  Same exact thing

 

[Andy1]

I thought it was just fans clearing their seats off. You got to send the snow someplace. 
 

From the TV perspective, after the warning it mostly stopped, so no big deal. Just fans having fun. 

[Breakout Squad]

22 minutes ago, KCNC said:

Absolutely not.  This is bush league and you have no business trying to injure someone while they are trying to do their job.  Grow up and be better.

How is tossing snowballs into the end zone trying to injure someone? If it happened at the Dolphins bench that is different and I would condemn that but just overall throwing snow is not bush league IMO. 

[JROC INTEL]

Meh my opinion is it wasn’t a big deal. These are grown men with pads and helmets. Its fun, snowballs don’t hurt. Play on.. lets have fun. Stop crying

[Codyny13]

You can’t throw things at players…doesn’t matter what it is, are we morons?

[AlfaBill]

I loved the snowballs after the Tds. It looked awesome on tv. Not so much at the bench though. 

[BADOLBILZ]

 

If you were sitting in the lower bowl and didn't get hit with a snowball you were lucky..........I saw one guy in front of me get hit twice.

 

I don't condone it but it's no big deal..........its snow.    

 

But thanks to all the douchebags who don't come to games telling us how badly they feel they were represented.  

 

It's an 8pm game.........the maximum amount of drunk, late arriving to their seats crowd.    

 

The NFL loved it........that's theatre.........the game had all of the things that bond people to the NFL including things like suspect officiating and harmlessly rowdy fan behavior.

[MJS]

33 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

Total, bush league, and a pathetic act to throw snowballs at anytime during the game. Hopefully, anybody who was caught throwing one by stadium staff should have been tossed out immediately.

 

Ironically, after they stopped the game and berated fans for acting like teenagers, it looked like fans were then just throwing them at each other, in the stands. The latter was really more dangerous, as most fans are not wearing helmets in the stands, and taking one to the eye or the side of the head could be very bad.

You are acting like they were throwing rocks. Snowballs are not dangerous.

[RiotAct]

24 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

I thought fans did a good job after they got lectured. At least that was admirable. 

“Fans… please… LISTEN TO JOSH ALLEN and stop throwing snow at the players!!!” 😂

[BADOLBILZ]

27 minutes ago, boater said:

Snowball throwers were a classless act. They embarrassed Buffalo on national TV.

 

 

Nothing personal, boater.........but if you aren't there braving the elements and supporting the team financially and screaming your lungs out for the defense then you should probably keep your opinions about the crowd to yourself.     

 

The NFL got exactly what they wanted when they scheduled that game in December and moved it to Saturday night.    Anyone who is embarrassed about the engagement and passion of that crowd last night is a true fan hater.

[Playoffs?]

Guess we gotta build a dome so no one can throw snowballs!

[sonyab1974]

No!!! Nobody should be hit by a snowball. Somebody could get hurt. I don't want the Dolphins players to get hurt.

[GETTOTHE50]

It’s freakin snow balls for crying out loud. If you’re putting like razor blades in them, then sure it’s a problem. 
 

it’s literally condensed water. safer than water balloons. they are meant to be fun and are. if I was a fish player/coach I would be throwing snow balls back and having fun. not being a sore ***** B word 

[Breakout Squad]

3 minutes ago, sonyab1974 said:

No!!! Nobody should be hit by a snowball. Somebody could get hurt. I don't want the Dolphins players to get hurt.

You’re 10 ply soft. 

22 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

We live in an Adult World.

Apparently, some people didn't get the memo..

Right. Because snow never gets tossed around at snow games. Lighten up Francis. 

I don’t want to sound like I condone any snow ball throwing at players or coaches, but the reactions on here acting like they’re throwing rocks or bottles are ridiculous. 

[Playoffs?]

51 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

Because 95% of the people at the game are Bills fans. You’re right, this is not just a Bills mafia thing, this would definitely happen at any stadium, but it’s still embarrassing. I heard them say on the radio this morning that there were ice balls found on the field and they were also finding beer caps in the snow balls. Don’t know if that’s true as that’s the first I heard it, but it wouldn’t surprise me

Yeah man.. if beer bottle caps and other hard objects were being tossed, that’s horrible.  Zero place for that crap. 
 

I do think there’s an element of ‘there’s snow, let’s throw it’. Kid stuff nostalgic stuff. I can live with that. Both fans were doing it… and yeah, we were the 95%… but it’s our home game. My only point was, it’s not fair to ONLY blame the Bills fans. 

 

This crap unfortunately has and will happened at a much worse level than this (batteries in Philly, beer bottles in Cleveland, etc).  
 

Not a good look? Yeah I agree.

Straight up embarrassment for Buffalo (for just the plain snowballs)?  I think that’ll be old news quickly. 
 

Miami people will still cry like a bunch of babies, and I’m sure they’ll go out of their way to push the narrative that Buffalo is classless (without mentioning that their own fans partook). 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Just now, Playoffs? said:

Yeah man.. if beer bottle caps and other hard objects were being tossed, that’s horrible.  Zero place for that crap. 
 

I do think there’s an element of ‘there’s snow, let’s throw it’. Kid stuff nostalgic stuff. I can live with that. Both fans were doing it… and yeah, we were the 95%… but it’s our home game. My only point was, it’s not fair to ONLY blame the Bills fans. 

 

This crap unfortunately has and will happened at a much worse level than this (batteries in Philly, beer bottles in Cleveland, etc).  
 

Not a good look? Yeah I agree.

Straight up embarrassment for Buffalo (for just the plain snowballs)?  I think that’ll be old news quickly. 
 

Miami people will still cry like a bunch of babies, and I’m sure they’ll go out of their way to push the narrative that Buffalo is classless (without mentioning that their own fans partook). 

 

It's more classeless by them putting teams playing in heat while they are in shade ( happened to lots of teams). As well as show no remorse at all about it, Not defending them at all. If it was other team that gives respect i'd criticize fans cause they respected us.

[2020 Our Year For Sure]

46 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

No difference than an intentional PI when it's that or a TD

Except I highly doubt it's a penalty, the Bills didn't do anything.

[sonyab1974]

1 minute ago, Breakout Squad said:

You’re 10 ply soft. 

 

I rather be one than be a cold hearted cruel person.

[Breakout Squad]

1 minute ago, sonyab1974 said:

 

I rather be one than be a cold hearted cruel person.

So I’m a cold hearted cruel person? Good take. Go Bills. 

[QCity]

24 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

Guess we gotta build a dome so no one can throw snowballs!

 

Easier to just price the drunken idiots out of the new stadium.

[0017]

I’m sorry Mike McDaniels has a face just begging to be hit by a snowball. 
 

[RyanC883]

Miami Dolphins.  soft hypocrites.  where are pics of the alleged “ice balls” or balls with beer caps lodged in them?  (they take the caps from you, so was it a beer can tab?  if so—harmless).  

[LabattBlue]

45 minutes ago, JROC INTEL said:

Meh my opinion is it wasn’t a big deal. These are grown men with pads and helmets. Its fun, snowballs don’t hurt. Play on.. lets have fun. Stop crying

Oh really?  Let me hit you in the eye with one, and then come back and tell me that it doesn’t hurt. 

[SinceThe70s]

48 minutes ago, Rocbillsfan1 said:

Lol at being seriously injured by a snowball. And no there weren’t ice balls. There was like 8 inches of snow in everyone’s seat what did you think people were going to do. The people complaining from their homes is hilarious. 

 

43 minutes ago, JROC INTEL said:

Meh my opinion is it wasn’t a big deal. These are grown men with pads and helmets. Its fun, snowballs don’t hurt. Play on.. lets have fun. Stop crying

 

I don't suppose either of you are aware of the time the Chargers equipment manager got hit in the back of the head by a snowball at a Giants game - took a fall and lost consciousness.  

 

 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

Look, it's not right. It's not somehow payback for the Phins trying to heatstroke people out.

 

But my god was it beautiful. 

[VaMilBill]

I think this is a classic division amongst the old breed of Bills fans and the younger generation. Older generation hates the Bills Mafia term, breaking tables, throwing snowballs and general debauchery. The old breed is more composed, orderly, etc. younger crowd obviously buys into Smashing tables, fingering bum holes in the stands, doing favors for Kiko Alonso jerseys in hammers lot, etc. 

 

so of course you have people on here arguing for both sides. I gotta say, I’m 30 and I personally appreciated throwing snowballs at the dolphins after what they did to us in week 3. If it was any other team, I’d be against it. But there is a significantly higher chance of someone getting heat stroke or worse in Miami in September than someone being injured by an “ice ball” (we all know it was snow, not ice). 

Edited December 18, 2022 by VaMilBill

[LabattBlue]

34 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Nothing personal, boater.........but if you aren't there braving the elements and supporting the team financially and screaming your lungs out for the defense then you should probably keep your opinions about the crowd to yourself.     

 

The NFL got exactly what they wanted when they scheduled that game in December and moved it to Saturday night.    Anyone who is embarrassed about the engagement and passion of that crowd last night is a true fan hater.

Throwing snowballs at players is a definition of a passionate fanbase?

[GoBills808]

No

 

 Throwing snow in the air to celebrate is fine and looks great on TV

 

Throwing anything toward the field is bush league and a terrible look

[Don Otreply]

Only if you put a golf ball in the middle of said snowball…, 

[BillsPride12]

21 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

 

I do think there’s an element of ‘there’s snow, let’s throw it’. Kid stuff nostalgic stuff. I can live with that.

 

Bingo...this is what it felt like to me.  Not the same as Philly fans putting batteries inside of Snowballs and pelting them at Players.  I was sitting in the 100 level and saw Bills fans get hit with snow coming from the Upper Deck and they just laughed it off.  It was just a festive atmosphere after all this hype of a Saturday night primetime game against Miami that was going to be a Snowgame.  

[LabattBlue]

8 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

I think this is a classic division amongst the old breed of Bills fans and the younger generation. Older generation hates the Bills Mafia term, breaking tables, throwing snowballs and general debauchery. The old breed is more composed, orderly, etc. younger crowd obviously buys into Smashing tables, fingering bum holes in the stands, doing favors for Kiko Alonso jerseys in hammers lot, etc. 

 

 

If that is the definition of division between two segments of the fanbase, I consider myself fortunate to be part of said “old breed”. 

[Playoffs?]

Can we all at least agree that bildo throwing is acceptable?

[Motorin']

10 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

No

 

 Throwing snow in the air to celebrate is fine and looks great on TV

 

Throwing anything toward the field is bush league and a terrible look

 

Everyone knows Bills fans play in the Labatts league. The Busch League is for old St. Louis Rams fans...

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

NO.  Chuck Foreman is winking at all of the idiots

[Simon Says]

1 hour ago, Clark Rotary said:

I thought that snowballs aimed at the Dolphins bench were fair game because the Dolphins sat our team in the  roasting sun in the game earlier in the year.  The whole thing has a nice Heat Miser Cold Miser dynamic that seems fair to me.  But I didn't see too much of the quid pro quo aspect mentioned in the media - did I miss it?  Just to be transparent I was reprimanded a few times by  authority types about my snowball throwing in 4th and 5th grade but have been clean for the last 50+ years - I always thought that was about average for growing up in Buffalo. 

Thats a stupid, immature take. Why risk a severe penalty for throwing snowballs in a close game? Throw snow at each other, in the stands,but not on the field. 

You need to finally grow up.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

We're better than that

[djp14150]

1 hour ago, Success said:

I was just about to start a "snowballs" thread - but more to just express how friggin' embarrassing that was on national TV.  We're not Philly.

 

I know it was Saturday & fans were drinking, but that was just dopey behavior.  We were lucky to not get a penalty.

 

i thought Giants stadium was the most infamous snow ball event.

i was at the game….

 

they announced early on as typical games of not throwing THINGS onto the field

 

later PA clarified that includes snowballs.

 

the seats had 6 inches of snow on them so it was there to get taken off. The easiest way to dispose of it is to throw it on the field.  cant control who might decide to get in the way.

[Mango]

My GF sat in the 200’s first row above the boxes and built a snowman on the roof. Security came to yell at her when she put boobs on it, they were cool with the snowman but not the boobs which seemed so dumb.

 

They came back when she smashed it down in celebration and started questioning whether or not she threw the snowman.
 

[eme123]

On tv it was a bad look for bills fans. It looked as though fans were throwing snowballs at their own players. After the Morris touchdown was the worst. Why are you throwing snowballs at our team to show your love? Its embarassing, stupid, and makes our community look like a philly/cleveland type of thing on a national stage. The consesus at the bar i watched at was the same. Someone even threw a snowball at the nfl network lady during allens post game interview. So now we are throwing snowballs at women?? As a 15yr season ticket holder i wasnt shocked in the least. The truth is half the crowd is there to get into the game, watch football at the highest level, and support the team. The other half is there to prove their fandom by doing look at me kind of stuff. Its beyond weird. 

[BADOLBILZ]

7 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

NO.  Chuck Foreman is winking at all of the idiots

 

There are always going to be a few jerks who act out at games if given the opportunity.............it only represents the fanbase as a whole to the idiots who don't realize this.    

 

We are talking about a few hundred people out of 60,000+ that threw snowballs.    I didn't see a single person in our section throw a snowball.

 

And what you forget is that the week after the Chuck Foreman incident in Buffalo there was an uglier incident of throwing objects on the field by Minnesota Vikings fans.