Panthers release Baker Mayfield

[RobbRiddick]

It would be great if SF did pick him up, just to see a former number 1 overall pick trying to battle out Mr irrelevant 

[ColoradoBills]

15 minutes ago, dpberr said:

He's a fit on the Colts.  At a minimum, Mayfield could throw a 20-yard pass.  Right now, that's an impossible task in Indianapolis with Matt Ryan.  

 

The 4-8-1 Colts would be insane to pick him up.  The last thing they need is to win a couple more games.

Colts have a bye then play the Vikings, Chargers, Giants and end the season with the Texans.

They should be in full tank mode.

[Royale with Cheese]

So if he does sign with someone....he will have been on 3 teams in the last 6 months.

1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

The 4-8-1 Colts would be insane to pick him up.  The last thing they need is to win a couple more games.

Colts have a bye then play the Vikings, Chargers, Giants and end the season with the Texans.

They should be in full tank mode.

 

It's why they hired Saturday.

[warrior9]

21 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

What kind of collusion is this?! There has to be some sort of weird back door handshake happening here.

If not... VERY VERY suspect timing.... They had a whole week to cut him on their bye

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, The Jokeman said:

Baker isn't elite but he isn't the worst either. I can't see a playoff caliber team pursuing him though as that's a major distraction that can't be good for a locker room this late in the season. 

 

He can be a good game manager, and at least give defenses more to worry about than a rookie Mr Irrelevant.

 

SF already survived a mini-QB Controversy that fixed itself once Lance got injured. Now they have to deal with the other guy going down. They have to bring someone in to backup Purdy at the very least. I think their locker room could manage dealing with bringing Mayfield in late.

[Draconator]

2 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

It would be great if SF did pick him up, just to see a former number 1 overall pick trying to battle out Mr irrelevant 

and lose out to Mr. Irrelevant

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

The 4-8-1 Colts would be insane to pick him up.  The last thing they need is to win a couple more games.

Colts have a bye then play the Vikings, Chargers, Giants and end the season with the Texans.

They should be in full tank mode.

 

For the Colts and Texans, I see it being more of a move for next year. See what he has, and if they want to make him an offer to extend/re-sign.

[The Jokeman]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

He can be a good game manager, and at least give defenses more to worry about than a rookie Mr Irrelevant.

 

SF already survived a mini-QB Controversy that fixed itself once Lance got injured. Now they have to deal with the other guy going down. They have to bring someone in to backup Purdy at the very least. I think their locker room could manage dealing with bringing Mayfield in late.

They brought in Josh Johnson who's been there (and everywhere) before. Baker in Houston feels feasible.

[Coach Tuesday]

I actually think SF is the perfect offense and landing spot for him.  Shanny runs an offense where the reads are well-defined and simple, and pocket mobility is hugely important.  Really good fit and I could see him being successful there.

[Beck Water]

24 minutes ago, SCBills said:

The day after Jimmy G goes down for the season. 
 

Interesting…

 

 

 

Panthers save $1.35M in cap by this move, not that I'm sure cap space matters to them.

 

Mayfield is a FA next season, though if they kept him on the roster through the end of the season and he signs elsewhere (almost certain to happen) they could theoretically get a comp pick

 

Locker room move?

 

It's bizarre to think that with a record of 4-8 after a win over  Denver a week ago, the Panthers are potentially one W out of the NFC S division title (depending upon the results of Tampa Bay-NO tonight). 

 

Tampa Bay then plays the 49ers, the Bengals, and the Cardinals, while the Panthers have Seattle, the Steelers, and the Lions. 

 

In theory, the Jan 1 meeting between the Bucs and the Panthers could have playoff implications!

[djp14150]

Remember…waiver cla8m means contract money and cap. He clears waivers it’s different

 

teams who could sign him

 

 By need 

49ers

rams 

Ravens

 

others could based on team qb depth

 

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by djp14150

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

38 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Collusion?

No, it's called 'collision'.  Progressive Insurance and Baker Mayfield advise you to have adequate amounts of it on your automobile insurance policies.

[Peace Frog]

38 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

I was never a Mayfield fan or believer, but it sucks to see him get done so dirty by the Browns that if effectively ruins any shot at a pro career.

 

I'd almost feel bad, if he didnt already have millions of dollars to fall back on.

I'm glad there's no more Baker Mayfield commercials.  Those were grueling.

[PetermansRedemption]

43 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I honestly would stay with Purdy if I were SF.

I would as well, but I’d definitely bring in Mayfield as the backup. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

32 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

What kind of collusion is this?! There has to be some sort of weird back door handshake happening here.

That's right...when people are stuck for the reason 'why', always try to blame freemasonry. 🤨

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[JoPoy88]

8 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

They brought in Josh Johnson who's been there (and everywhere) before. Baker in Houston feels feasible.

Houston? Doesn’t seem too likely. They aren’t trying to win either. It’s why they put Kyle Allen in. It’s why they rein in their best player (Pearce) at key points and don’t use him. 
 

 

[GunnerBill]

37 minutes ago, eball said:

 

You can't.  Even though he has flamed out you've got to kick the tires on Mayfield.  You need a guy who has played in big games, even if it's just to manage the game behind that defense.

 

 

Agree. Nothing I saw out of Pudy last night suggests to me that he can be enough to get the 49ers where they want to go. 

[DCofNC]

31 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

What kind of collusion is this?! There has to be some sort of weird back door handshake happening here.

 I’d bet Baker’s agent asked for his release, it’s obvious it didn’t work out, and with an opening in SF, it’s a good opportunity for him to get on the big stage AGAIN, to try to regain some sort of value.   I’m 100% sure SF will put in a claim for him, but there’s a lot of teams that could do it ahead of them, so who knows if it will work out for them.  Hell, if I’m Seattle, I’m claiming him, JUST to screw SF. 
 

I think Purdy looked great, seemed completely unflappable, but to take a rookie  7th round QB and expect a deep run into the playoffs, when they have gone all-in on this season, is a major question.  They need a vet in a hurry and Josh Johnson is not the answer.  I’d let it ride with Purdy for now, but if he gets shaky, you need somebody to at least try to save the boat.

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

For the Colts and Texans, I see it being more of a move for next year. See what he has, and if they want to make him an offer to extend/re-sign.

 

The Texans will have the 1st pick and will take the best QB in the draft.  Why would they need Mayfield?

They need the best backup QB who can help the rookie and that surely is not Mayfield.

 

The only QB needy teams below the Colts are the Saints (who don't have a 1st round pick) and the Panthers.

I think they would be foolish not to go for QB#2 in the draft.  Keeping Matt Ryan will ensure that will happen.

IMO.

[DrDawkinstein]

8 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

Remember…waiver cla8m means contract money and cap. He clears waivers it’s different

 

teams who could sign him

 

 By need 

49ers

rams 

Ravens

 

others could based on team qb depth

 

 

 

Remember, a lot of his salary was handled by Cleveland this year in order to trade him:

 

"Mayfield’s deal, which runs through the upcoming 2022 campaign, is worth a total of $18.8 million. Of that total, the Browns have agreed to pay $10.5 million with the Panthers footing just $5 million of his base salary. The remaining $3.5 million, as agreed upon by Baker himself, has been trimmed per Mike Garofolo."

 

So I believe, at most, teams would be on the hook for whatever little amount remains of that $5M. We're well past halfway of the season, so you're looking at like $1.5-2M tops. Probably wont sign a QB for any less than that.

[ArdmoreRyno]

33 minutes ago, freddyjj said:

Colts?  Texans?  He would be a veteran arm with league experience.  Believe he is from TX too so Houston makes sense.

 

I would think Houston would try to nap him seeing how they have nothing to lose. He can at least run the ball better than Mills. 

4 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

That's right...when people are stuck for the reason 'why', always try to blame freemasonry. 🤨

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"What's this? A nail from the 1600's? What does it mean and who put it there? Was it the Knights Templar hiding the Holy Grail or was it the Free Masons looking to relocate the Browns? Or... was it more sinister and evil than anyone could ever imagine?" 

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

I would think Houston would try to nap him seeing how they have nothing to lose. He can at least run the ball better than Mills. 

 

Why would they take any chance to win games and give up the overall #1 pick?

[eball]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agree. Nothing I saw out of Pudy last night suggests to me that he can be enough to get the 49ers where they want to go. 

 

That game yesterday should be worrying the hell out of Dolphin fans.  You can't stop an offense led by Mr. Irrelevant and Tua was exposed by a good defense.

 

[Donuts and Doritos]

Jets are always looking for a QB. 

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Why would they take any chance to win games and give up the overall #1 pick?

 

Good points about Houston. Having the #1 pick changes things, for sure.

 

I guess they could bring him in now to get familiar, re-sign him to a cheap deal, and have him around so the rookie isnt forced into action too quickly. The rest of that team stinks so they have a lot of building to do before any rookie QB would stand a chance of surviving. Mayfield could be that bridge, and compete.

 

But good points.

[hemma]

He asked for his own release so ‘collusion’ doesn’t fit.

[DCofNC]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agree. Nothing I saw out of Pudy last night suggests to me that he can be enough to get the 49ers where they want to go. 

I don’t think you were watching then.  He played very well, on what had to be next to zero practice time, against a really good D.  I was super impressed.  That WCO style is similar to what he ran in college, I think he could absolutely take the reins and do well. That said, they need a real back up plan right away.   Josh Johnson is a known commodity and he ain’t the guy you want.  I’d take Baker on, with the full disclosure he’s a complete desperation move IF Purdy starts to struggle.   Baker should be able to do more, but we all know he goes brain dead too, so it’s a bad situation for the 9ers no matter how you shape it.  It’s too bad the trade deadline is passed, they could have made a play at somebody, honestly wouldn’t have been shocked if they tried to grab Keenum had they had a chance, that ship has sailed.   This is the reality of the league, they made a push to win this year and lost their QB late in the season.  Big bummer.  If they could get their hands on a guy like Keenum, Tyrod, etc, you would feel like they might still have a shot. 
 

One last interesting option would have to be the list of Retired QBs at this point.  Who is in shape and would be willing to go for it, have to think Breese or Rivers, hey maybe even Fitz would be tempting for them and a shot for the player to get a ring.. will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, hemma said:

He asked for his own release so ‘collusion’ doesn’t fit.

 

Maybe Texans should stay away if he's another one of those guys.

[FireChans]

9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agree. Nothing I saw out of Pudy last night suggests to me that he can be enough to get the 49ers where they want to go. 

If the Bills don't win the Superbowl, it would be HILARIOUS to see Baker win it with San Fran.

[todd]

My prediction? New England. Bellyache liked him coming out of college. He'll be cheap (relatively) and it makes sense given Mac is not good.

[djp14150]

9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Remember, a lot of his salary was handled by Cleveland this year in order to trade him:

 

"Mayfield’s deal, which runs through the upcoming 2022 campaign, is worth a total of $18.8 million. Of that total, the Browns have agreed to pay $10.5 million with the Panthers footing just $5 million of his base salary. The remaining $3.5 million, as agreed upon by Baker himself, has been trimmed per Mike Garofolo."

 

So I believe, at most, teams would be on the hook for whatever little amount remains of that $5M. We're well past halfway of the season, so you're looking at like $1.5-2M tops. Probably wont sign a QB for any less than that.

i don’t recall if this was the last year or if there was more.

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, eball said:

 

That game yesterday should be worrying the hell out of Dolphin fans.  You can't stop an offense led by Mr. Irrelevant and Tua was exposed by a good defense.

 

 

Maybe. I also think it was a bit one of those days where they just played poorly. I mean I never bought them as a true contender so maybe I see it through that prism. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

6 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

"What's this? A nail from the 1600's? What does it mean and who put it there? Was it the Knights Templar hiding the Holy Grail or was it the Free Masons looking to relocate the Browns? Or... was it more sinister and evil than anyone could ever imagine?" 

Are we talking 'original Browns', or 'Browns 2.0'? 🤔

[djp14150]

Just now, todd said:

My prediction? New England. Bellyache liked him coming out of college. He'll be cheap (relatively) and it makes sense given Mac is not good.

Remmber they have zippy sappy stQB thry drsfted and played well.

[eball]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Maybe. I also think it was a bit one of those days where they just played poorly. I mean I never bought them as a true contender so maybe I see it through that prism. 

 

Agree completely...I'm referring to their misguided fans and the media who always want to overreact to anything Miami does.

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Maybe Texans should stay away if he's another one of those guys.

Is 'those guys' anything like 'you people'?

🤔😳

[strive_for_five_guy]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

San Fran would be a solid landing spot for him, but there are likely other teams on the waiver wire ahead of them who may take a swing. 

Looks like some have already said it, although I could see the Pats or Jets taking a flyer on Mayfield before he gets to the 49ers via waivers…

[Shaw66]

Wow.  He was pretty much everyone's #1 QB coming out, although there certainly was a lot of room to argue.  

 

My sense of the guy is that he isn't great in the locker room.  I think he's too much of a me-first guy.   And although he's shown that he can be a pretty good playmaker, he's not a big-time thrower.  Obviously, he can't throw like Allen, but he can't throw like Mahomes, either, or like Burrows or Herbert.  If you don't make any eye-popping throws, it's pretty hard to be big success at QB in the NFL.

 

My take is that no one who's looking an answer at QB is likely to be interested.  Can't see why Houston would bet on Baker instead of someone in the draft, and why would you want in camp as your rookie is working his way in.  Colts shouldn't want to take a run an another retread.  Rivers then Ryan then Baker?  No.  Not the Ravens.   They have their #1, and Huntley fits better as a backup in their offense.  

 

The 49ers are a different situation.  They've been looking seriously at a Super Bowl run this season, and now they need someone who can run their offense.  They may or may not like Baker for the long run, but if they may very well want him for the short run.   

 

Look at it this way:  If someone told you at the start of the season that after week thirteen, you'd be 8-4, leading your division and in excellent position to make the playoffs (93%), and they asked you what you'd like to do from a personnel point of view, you'd say, "whatever I possibly can do to make myself better, this year."   That's why they went out and got McCaffrey.   So, here they are, staring at the playoffs, and needing a QB.   I think in that situation, you go get the very best QB you can find.  Colts might let you trade for Matt Ryan, but, no thank you.  Jets might give you Flacco or Zach Wilson.  Broncos might give you Russell Wilson.  Ryan Fitzpatrick might hang up his mike and come off the sideline.  The choices just aren't very good.  

 

Baker, you actually could plug and play and have a shot at winning ball games down the stretch.  By the time the playoffs start, he'd be integrated into the system.   He has the mobility Garropolo lacked, he's got an arm for at least the intermediate passing game.   He's a gamer.  

Edited December 5, 2022 by Shaw66

[DrDawkinstein]

8 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

i don’t recall if this was the last year or if there was more.

 

Just saw a tweet, whoever picks him up would be on the hook for $1.3M this year. And it's the last year of the contract.

[WyoAZBillfan]

I vote Denver’s calls him. Stoke up the current dumpster fire there. He can’t be any worse than Russ is, even with the HC who couldn’t even find a play call (even if his auto warranty was about to expire).