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4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

That was probably joshs unluckiest int of the year…can’t fault him much for that one.  Receiver was wide open and the defensive linemen swatted it and it still took a great play by another defender to come down with it 

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Josh gutted through a lot of pain to come through when it counted.    Glad to see half the board gave up on this game and the season; should be easier to read posts around here.

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You know what?  8-3 is damned good. I'm not so spoiled by expectations that I can't appreciate that.  

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2 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Where was preseason MVP Bobby Hart?

 

I'd guess they didn't want to lose the option of using him as a 6th OL like they have been.

I think I'd have rather seen him at G all day. 🤷‍♂️

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3 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

Throughout this thread, I keep reading this "Frazier must go..." refrain. 

 

Well, careful what you wish for, guys. Or not. Either way, Frazier is likely some other team's HC in '23, because the entire rest of the league feels very differently about Leslie Frazier than a very vocal minority of Bills fans do.

I doubt it. I wouldn’t want to touch him because of his lack of energy as well as 13 seconds. Also, I’m very curious to look at our standings the last 4 weeks as a defensive unit. We have been utterly terrible. Can’t stop anything. 3rd and long has been particularly agonizing.  

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4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Gabe Davis should’ve caught that ball near the end zone right? I’m watching Darius Slayton go up and make a play for Daniel Jones. Davis has to go up and get that ball.

 

Im very down on him this year. I’ve gone from thinking we had our WR2 to evaluating his game each week thinking we need better.


our DB’s are sticking their hand in and hitting the ball and the receivers still catch them through the pass defense. The DB barely touches Gabe and he drops it. Was disappointing for sure. 

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I thought Detroit committed unforgivable time and game management errors down the stretch.  It was almost inevitable they would score a touchdown but they were 100% trying for a field goal.  Not only that, they left way too much time on the clock.  

 

I want someone to do a deep dive into that halftime show to figure our what was happening and how that was green-lit.  

 

Ugly game.  Those are the games brady and new England would always win.  It would drive us nuts.  

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I’m sure this has all been said previously, but our team has been through a lot of adversity lately: injuries, weather, few practices, playing two away games on a short week, etc… The fact that they’ve won these past two games with everything going on shows how gritty our team is. I’m proud of them. Are improvements needed? Of course. But there is a lot to be proud of here 

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9 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

Throughout this thread, I keep reading this "Frazier must go..." refrain. 

 

Well, careful what you wish for, guys. Or not. Either way, Frazier is likely some other team's HC in '23, because the entire rest of the league feels very differently about Leslie Frazier than a very vocal minority of Bills fans do.

I really hope he’s another teams head coach next year lol.

 

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17 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

If his elbow was a big enough part of the problem right now, I'm not sure he could make that end of game throw to Diggs.  Either his elbow is bad or it's not.  I think it is likely "not feeling 100%" but I don't think it's the sole source of his passing woes right now.  

 

His throwing motion is different for sure.  He's getting his shoulder and body into his throws in a way he didn't really need to before.  Jim Kelly late in his career was doing something similar.  It definitely affects his short-to-intermediate throws more.  

 

I also think that some of the WR drops may be due to the fact that the ball is coming at them differently than they're used to.  Still gotta make those catches, but he seems to have a little less zip on some throws, and that fraction of a second makes a difference.  They're just going to need to adjust while he works this out.

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12 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

I doubt it. I wouldn’t want to touch him because of his lack of energy as well as 13 seconds. Also, I’m very curious to look at our standings the last 4 weeks as a defensive unit. We have been utterly terrible. Can’t stop anything. 3rd and long has been particularly agonizing.  

we 13 seconds-ed the lions today essentially.  We were in fg range right after that pass to diggs.  
 

More or less/probably could’ve done it to the Vikings too.  It’s certainly heartbreaking but it’s not a dark cloud that’s gonna follow your coaching career around imo.  
 

I’ve seen it a few times around the league this season so far.  
 

had the jets on a huge game winning td with no time left too and gabe dropped it 

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25 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

If his elbow was a big enough part of the problem right now, I'm not sure he could make that end of game throw to Diggs.  Either his elbow is bad or it's not.  I think it is likely "not feeling 100%" but I don't think it's the sole source of his passing woes right now.  

 

I think it's about angles. With some throwing angles his elbow doesn't affect him; with others it does. I think the long throws are better for him, so we really need to make the most of the run game to bring defensive players in, allowing him to throw deep. We keep saying why don't we dink and dunk, but I think Josh finds that more painful at the moment due to the trajectory.

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2 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

I agree but now isn't the time for this. Let's enjoy the victory! Team showed heart at the end to pull off a mirculous victory.

Worst 8-3 team of all time?  You mean the 2022 Bills that lead the league in point differential and have the highest strength of victory?

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22 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Gabe Davis should’ve caught that ball near the end zone right? I’m watching Darius Slayton go up and make a play for Daniel Jones. Davis has to go up and get that ball.

 

Im very down on him this year. I’ve gone from thinking we had our WR2 to evaluating his game each week thinking we need better.

We need a true # 1 to go with Diggs 

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14 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

I thought Detroit committed unforgivable time and game management errors down the stretch.  It was almost inevitable they would score a touchdown but they were 100% trying for a field goal.  Not only that, they left way too much time on the clock.  

 

I want someone to do a deep dive into that halftime show to figure our what was happening and how that was green-lit.  

 

Ugly game.  Those are the games brady and new England would always win.  It would drive us nuts.  

I agree with this.  These are the reasons I think you can make a reasonable argument that Bass missing the extra point on the Bills last TD actually helped the Bills.  The Bills are now up 3 instead of 4 and the Lions are not in 4 down mode. They got into field goal range and had a 4th and 1 around the 35 or so of the Bills.  If down 4, they are going for that and a pretty good chance the drive is continuing.  There would probably be more urgency to conserve time as well.  They played really conservative that last drive to the point where I was like, not only are they playing the FG, but they are playing scared and it caused them to have to go for a long field goal and leave 23 seconds on the clock with Bills having all 3 timeouts.

 

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10 minutes ago, BufBills83 said:

I agree with this.  These are the reasons I think you can make a reasonable argument that Bass missing the extra point on the Bills last TD actually helped the Bills.  The Bills are now up 3 instead of 4 and the Lions are not in 4 down mode. They got into field goal range and had a 4th and 1 around the 35 or so of the Bills.  If down 4, they are going for that and a pretty good chance the drive is continuing.  There would probably be more urgency to conserve time as well.  They played really conservative that last drive to the point where I was like, not only are they playing the FG, but they are playing scared and it caused them to have to go for a long field goal and leave 23 seconds on the clock with Bills having all 3 timeouts.

 

I was just thinking the same thing. Good thing bass missed that Extra point!

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35 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said:

We have highest SOV? That’s cool I didn’t know that. 

Schedule has been even brutal-er than we thought lol the supposedly easy back half isn’t even easy.  The two games that seemed like layups both ended up being away games in a 5 day span against the 4th and 6th ranked offenses in the league 

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2 hours ago, Dick_Cheney said:

Gotta say, that game was sloppy, Dorsey needs to be fired tonight, throw Josh into a Bacta tank, but the mental fortitude on those last 2 drives is why these guys play the game and we are posting on a message board.

If only posters could be fired. Aside from the rough 2 weeks, lack of practice, condensed time between games, injuries etc its an accomplishment they pulled through and won when they needed to. Similar to the Chiefs win last Sunday night - stay in it and win at the end of the game. They needed a few bounces, but this wasnt like the Jets game where they left a ton of points on the field. The Lions gave a depleted Bills team all they could handle, and there is nothing wrong w that. If this team was doing laps around the Lions and then just weren't finishing or pissed it away thats one thing. That didn't happen today. They gutted this out and won. All things equal, the Bills should have covered the spread. It was evident pretty early however that this would take everything left in the tank to pull it out and they did. The Jets game is a game where excuses were a bad look. This one was the reality of the situation. Try and be a better fan man. There are many take aways from this game but just saying axe the OC is a lazy and uninformed take. Bad look imo

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28 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

My view from section 138.  Not the greatest camera work ever but I'm not one for taking pics and vids so I think I did well lol.

 

https://twitter.com/1ManRaid/status/1595909867931328514?t=DysuGlcIPLraYFhKFrMsFA&s=19

It would have been a lot better if not for you jumping up once it went through!😀

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44 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

By the way, what was the meaning of the placards that simply stayed "3" that the Lions were waving?

That they are supposed to be screaming and waving the signs when the other team has a third down. One of the most annoying things I have ever seen at an NFL game. No one can see the play (visitor fans and home fans). 

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The bills had to literally get neighbors to dig them out of a snow storm and rush to the airport at the last minute to fly out and play a game on the road that they thought would be a home game and they won. Then they flew back to western NY, dug their homes out of the snow and turned around and flew back 3  days later for another game.

 

They missed prep time for the first game and probably had almost none for the second.

 

Be thankful for the W, A lot of teams with a lot less character would have just dialed in the last two games.

 

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