Only 4 active WR

[Straight Hucklebuck]

I'm sure the Bills Coaching staff will still find reasons not to play Shakir, Cook, Hines, and target Knox 2 times. 

 

 

[The Jokeman]

3 hours ago, balln said:

Marquez Stevenson maybe coming off IR is not the #4 wr this Super Bowl team should have. Crowder is legit injury. Point is beane and the team should have  had more offseason wr depth / trade deadline focus.

 

oR put hodgins on the roster so he doesn’t get stolen ? Do we really need Tyler Mattekavich or duke Johnson on the roster 

Isn't Hodgins a Giant?

[Joe Ferguson]

Can we finally sign OBJ?

[Goin Breakdown]

5 hours ago, balln said:

Right. But watch when they put the trash Shaq Lawson , boogie , espeneza line out. Teams immediately pound the ***** out of them. I’d rather have a kc wr onslaught and out score teams than these JaG DL

I kinda see what you are saying. When I look at this Dline, I don't think they look much better than many other teams especially when it matters. BUT with injuries to the secondary there is a lot of pressure up front to be beyond great. Now on the Offence, Josh or Dorsey or both idk...look off, bad, out of sync. The WRs haven't been stepping up for some reason and so on, so it's really hard to blame just one area and say they should have invested more. It's just not our year (yea winning record I get it) and I don't see it getting any better for the season. JMO 

[DCofNC]

5 hours ago, TBBills said:

That is the dumbest thing to say in November  that they should have done something that they did do in the offseason.  You need to stop while you are behind... Crowder...

 

Why didn't you remember they did add WRs in the offseason can't do anything when we lose them to injury.

You say duh but made yourself look worse.

They lost Beasely and Sanders and only added Crowder.  Mind you, Crowder was such a low priority guy, he took less than half of what Beasley was scheduled to make this year.  So they rid themselves of $14M in salary and spent $4M back.   They chose Hope as a strategy and here we are. They hoped Crowder would FINALLY stay healthy, that Davis was a legit 2, that a 5th round rookie or one of their other late round fliers was going to take a role.  None of it happened, so exactly what would you say is wrong about his complaint on doing nothing at WR?

[TBBills]

3 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

They lost Beasely and Sanders and only added Crowder.  Mind you, Crowder was such a low priority guy, he took less than half of what Beasley was scheduled to make this year.  So they rid themselves of $14M in salary and spent $4M back.   They chose Hope as a strategy and here we are. They hoped Crowder would FINALLY stay healthy, that Davis was a legit 2, that a 5th round rookie or one of their other late round fliers was going to take a role.  None of it happened, so exactly what would you say is wrong about his complaint on doing nothing at WR?

B.c they didn't do nothing... they drafted and picked up FA WRs. Not all of them made the roster and some of them got injured. 

 

This isn't something for debate... they did do something actually a few things at WR.

 

Salary doesn't mean *****... 

Edited November 18, 2022 by TBBills

[BeastMaster]

18 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

Can we finally sign OBJ?

Pipe dream

 

He's looking for a 20 mil yearly salary prorated, which means he wants over a mil per each game we have left

 

You wanna pay 7. 4 mil for 7 games of a just medically cleared from an ACL tear OBJ?

 

You're high if you think that's a good idea, or if we can even pay that salary

[TBBills]

24 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

Can we finally sign OBJ?

Who do you want after he tears his ACL again?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

3 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Isn't Hodgins a Giant?

No, his talents are nowhere near that exceptional.

[todd]

Yeah, man. Let’s pick up a wr! One that will learn the playbook in a day! Float some names, bro! Who ya got, mephisto?

[finn]

6 hours ago, balln said:

And w McKenzie sick. Only 3. 
 

Long may he stay sick. Did you see him hanging out on the sideline after Allen's first interception, his hands on his chest plate?

 

The guy is not just not helping the team, he's hurting it. His being out would be addition by subtraction

[Scott7975]

42 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

Can we finally sign OBJ?

 

Id like them to sign OBJ too but apparently our offense is so complicated he probably wouldnt play until 2024 anyways.

[Nextmanup]

This came up as a topic of conversation yesterday on GR-55 and the consensus was that this is a valid complaint.

 

Should have more.

 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

20 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Id like them to sign OBJ too but apparently our offense is so complicated he probably wouldnt play until 2024 anyways.

Can't be that complicated if Davis "only runs 3 routes" per Patrick Peterson.

[Aussie Joe]

6 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

The endless whining. 

Place has turned into a river of tears 

[Jauronimo]

4 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Isn't Hodgins a Giant?

He's like 6'2" but pretty short where it counts if you know what I mean.  Hardly a giant but not a midget if that helps.  

[newcam2012]

3 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

I kinda see what you are saying. When I look at this Dline, I don't think they look much better than many other teams especially when it matters. BUT with injuries to the secondary there is a lot of pressure up front to be beyond great. Now on the Offence, Josh or Dorsey or both idk...look off, bad, out of sync. The WRs haven't been stepping up for some reason and so on, so it's really hard to blame just one area and say they should have invested more. It's just not our year (yea winning record I get it) and I don't see it getting any better for the season. JMO 

This won't be a popular viewpoint here. I happen to agree with your viewpoint. The team is decimented with injuries, both sides of the ball have issues, several players just haven't stepped up as anticipated, and the coaching staff is sub par. Very strange season that seemingly is drifting away as the season progresses. This team is vulnerable and not as good as advertised from many reasons. The MVP QB is playing like a rookie, the injuries are getting insurmountable, players haven't stepped up, and the coaching staff might still be shell shocked from the 13 second fiasco. Sure, I'm hoping for a turn around. The Bills get a beatable Browns and Lions teams the next two weeks. If they lose to either team it's another huge blow to the team. This 6-3 team feels like a 500 team to me. I feel like the Dolphins and KC are better teams than the Bills. Balt,  Cinci, Tenn, and a healthy SD are right next to the Bills. Jets and others are further behind. 

[Pete]

4 thats funny.  Usually only 1 WR shows up on Sunday

Edited November 18, 2022 by Pete

[CoudyBills]

9 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

I know I should be concerned about only one healthy NFL caliber receiver but then I gaze over at the defensive line and see 20 guys all fresh and ready to play their 15 snaps this Sunday and all my troubles drift away.  ***** thats a sweet rotation. If we add a guy who can stop the run next year I can die happy.  

Maybe trade way up and get a true, true 1 tech tackle.  Woo-hoo baby.  

9 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

But then can’t hold 2 and 3 score second half leads against the Jets or Vikings. 6 RBs active and the only guy with more then 5 touches is Singletary 

Clearly more defensive draft picks are needed.  That's what I see here.

[CoudyBills]

9 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Toney was there for the taking for basically nothing. KC scooped him up and he paid dividends immediately. 

He would still be growing in Buffalo, not playing. 

[CoudyBills]

7 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

haha. I can see it now. No receivers line up, and we have 4 RBs all go out and run check down routes. 
 

“your move, Mr. Allen. Your move.”

And another deep interception down the seam.

[bobobonators]

10 hours ago, balln said:

Marquez Stevenson maybe coming off IR is not the #4 wr this Super Bowl team should have. Crowder is legit injury. Point is beane and the team should have  had more offseason wr depth / trade deadline focus.

 

oR put hodgins on the roster so he doesn’t get stolen ? Do we really need Tyler Mattekavich or duke Johnson on the roster 

Reading your posts is like nails on a chalkboard. 

[DCofNC]

5 hours ago, TBBills said:

B.c they didn't do nothing... they drafted and picked up FA WRs. Not all of them made the roster and some of them got injured. 

 

This isn't something for debate... they did do something actually a few things at WR.

 

Salary doesn't mean *****... 

So replacing 2 veterans with 1, who isn’t valued by the rest of the league for as much as either of the guys you lost and drafting a 5th round rookie is “doing something”.   Salary doesn’t mean anything, so I suppose that’s why the big FA signing needed 17M a year to sign.  Get real, your argument is an utter farce.  

[DCofNC]

5 hours ago, BeastMaster said:

Pipe dream

 

He's looking for a 20 mil yearly salary prorated, which means he wants over a mil per each game we have left

 

You wanna pay 7. 4 mil for 7 games of a just medically cleared from an ACL tear OBJ?

 

You're high if you think that's a good idea, or if we can even pay that salary

You don’t understand the cap if you think we can’t afford that.  It’s not difficult to do it at all, it’s all in the structure.  He’s going to get a sizable signing bonus and a vet min contract, multiple years, void after this year.   Every game he doesn’t play is less he’s getting.  My bet, somebody signs him to a 4 year deal, 5M signing bonus, vet min, voided at year end.  He gets $5.4M, team gets difference maker, cap hit of $1.5M for 6 regular season games.

Edited November 19, 2022 by DCofNC

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, CoudyBills said:

He would still be growing in Buffalo, not playing. 

Coaching makes a difference. Look at KC. They lose Hill and pick up a bunch on so so Wrs. They have no elite RBs and that offense still runs like a well oiled machine. Reid is a great coach and Mahomes is a proven winner whose done it for years now. The Bills were very fortunate to beat them in the regular season. Looks like the road is going through KC again. Not good for Buffalo that's even if they can get there. 

[balln]

2 hours ago, bobobonators said:

Reading your posts is like nails on a chalkboard. 

Are not is. Better get some headphones 

[Goin Breakdown]

3 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

This won't be a popular viewpoint here. I happen to agree with your viewpoint. The team is decimented with injuries, both sides of the ball have issues, several players just haven't stepped up as anticipated, and the coaching staff is sub par. Very strange season that seemingly is drifting away as the season progresses. This team is vulnerable and not as good as advertised from many reasons. The MVP QB is playing like a rookie, the injuries are getting insurmountable, players haven't stepped up, and the coaching staff might still be shell shocked from the 13 second fiasco. Sure, I'm hoping for a turn around. The Bills get a beatable Browns and Lions teams the next two weeks. If they lose to either team it's another huge blow to the team. This 6-3 team feels like a 500 team to me. I feel like the Dolphins and KC are better teams than the Bills. Balt,  Cinci, Tenn, and a healthy SD are right next to the Bills. Jets and others are further behind. 

I pretty much agree with all

of this. I'm as big a fan as the next guy but I'm not blind to the fact that there is a ton of underachieving lol. You pretty much nailed it man. I too am

hoping I'm wrong about the direction I feel they are going

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

Coaching makes a difference. Look at KC. They lose Hill and pick up a bunch on so so Wrs. They have no elite RBs and that offense still runs like a well oiled machine. Reid is a great coach and Mahomes is a proven winner whose done it for years now. The Bills were very fortunate to beat them in the regular season. Looks like the road is going through KC again. Not good for Buffalo that's even if they can get there. 

Coaching definitely plays a part.  Reid runs circles around Dorsey right now. 
 

They’ve invested much heavier at OL, but I don’t know that there’s is much better than ours. 
 

Biggest difference is Kelce is still in his prime and opens up everything else. 
 

Diggs is Top 5, but I’ve never seen him do what Jefferson did the other day, and TE is the ultimate mismatch. 
 

We have solid weaponry around Allen, but it was overrated over the summer and still is now. 
 

Edited November 19, 2022 by SCBills

[Scott7975]

2 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Coaching makes a difference. Look at KC. They lose Hill and pick up a bunch on so so Wrs. They have no elite RBs and that offense still runs like a well oiled machine. Reid is a great coach and Mahomes is a proven winner whose done it for years now. The Bills were very fortunate to beat them in the regular season. Looks like the road is going through KC again. Not good for Buffalo that's even if they can get there. 

 

Josh is a proven winner for years now too.  KC has won one more game than the Bills thus far. The Bills werent fortunate to beat them.  The Bills beat them period.  There was nothing fortunate about it.  Im not scared to go through KC if that is how it happens.  

 

Its ironic you post about how great Reid is a coach while dogging the Bills coaching staff and cant see how equal these teams have been. We beat them 2 out of 3 times at Arrowhead and were 13 seconds away from being 3 out 3 the last 3 games.  It doesnt get anymore equal than that.

 

Im not entirely happy with the staff overall right now either but I still at least see the above.

Edited November 19, 2022 by Scott7975

[John from Riverside]

15 hours ago, balln said:

We’re a high octane passing offense with questionable WR depth and we’re down to 4 WR! (3 ) and that’s not something to talk about ? 
 

Do better than do better 

Seeing a lot of village idiots liking your posts you shouldn’t be proud of that

 

perhaps the game plan is to use our tight ends more in this next game, which would be a good idea not to mention the fact that Hines goes as a slot receiver, and we haven’t been using him enough

 

 

picking up, klein was extremely smart, because Edmonds out and klien is a run stopper linebacker that is played well for us in the past and we are about to face chubb

Edited November 19, 2022 by John from Riverside

[newcam2012]

33 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Josh is a proven winner for years now too.  KC has won one more game than the Bills thus far. The Bills werent fortunate to beat them.  The Bills beat them period.  There was nothing fortunate about it.  Im not scared to go through KC if that is how it happens.  

 

Its ironic you post about how great Reid is a coach while dogging the Bills coaching staff and cant see how equal these teams have been. We beat them 2 out of 3 times at Arrowhead and were 13 seconds away from being 3 out 3 the last 3 games.  It doesnt get anymore equal than that.

 

Im not entirely happy with the staff overall right now either but I still at least see the above.

Have to disagree with you on the coaching comparassion. Reid is hands down a better coach than McD. Probably a hall of fame inductee. Very rarely will you see Reid get out coached. McD can be out coached on every given Sunday. Reid and Mahomes have the Super Bowl rings. McD and Allen can't even sniff an AFC Championship game.  Sorry to say that combo Reid and Mahomes are clearly ahead of McD and Allen. The Bills have lost 2 playoff games in Arrowhead. The Bills regular season wins don't come close to making the score even. 

5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Seeing a lot of village idiots liking your posts you shouldn’t be proud of that

 

perhaps the game plan is to use our titans more in this next game, which would be a good idea not to mention the fact that Hines goes as a slot receiver, and we haven’t been using him enough

 

 

picking up, klein was extremely smart, because Edmonds out and klien is a run stopper linebacker that is played well for us in the past and we are about to face chubb

Good luck if you think Klien is going to contain Chubb. Only a village idiot would think he's going to be a difference maker this Sunday. 

 

Hines is not a slot teceiver. What are you smoking? 

 

If you are going to try to trash someone please do your homework. Stop embarrassing yourself. 

Edited November 19, 2022 by newcam2012

[Mike in Horseheads]

3 hours ago, DCofNC said:

You don’t understand the cap if you think we can’t afford that.  It’s not difficult to do it at all, it’s all in the structure.  He’s going to get a sizable signing bonus and a vet min contract, multiple years, void after this year.   Every game he doesn’t play is less he’s getting.  My bet, somebody signs him to a 4 year deal, 5M signing bonus, vet min, voided at year end.  He gets $5.4M, team gets difference maker, cap hit of $1.5M for 6 regular season games.

Did ya ever think the Bills cap is also prorated by week of season?

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, newcam2012 said:

Coaching makes a difference. Look at KC. They lose Hill and pick up a bunch on so so Wrs. They have no elite RBs and that offense still runs like a well oiled machine. Reid is a great coach and Mahomes is a proven winner whose done it for years now. The Bills were very fortunate to beat them in the regular season. Looks like the road is going through KC again. Not good for Buffalo that's even if they can get there. 

The only reason the road is currently going through KC again is because our lord and savior 17 has made some terrible bone headed mistakes the last two games.  
 

Our coaching could be better, but we have a rookie play caller who’s trying to figure out how to do his job.  Our defense started out stellar and then got ravaged by injuries.  If we had maybe lost Hyde and no one else, we’d probably be undefeated right now.  
 

 

[John from Riverside]

4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Have to disagree with you on the coaching comparassion. Reid is hands down a better coach than McD. Probably a hall of fame inductee. Very rarely will you see Reid get out coached. McD can be out coached on every given Sunday. Reid and Mahomes have the Super Bowl rings. McD and Allen can't even sniff an AFC Championship game.  Sorry to say that combo Reid and Mahomes is clearly ahead of McD and Allen. The Bills have lost 2 playoff games in Arrowhead. The Bills regular season wins don't come close to making the score even. 

Good luck if you think Klien going to contain Chubb. Only a village idiot would think he's going to be a difference maker this Sunday. 

 

Hines is not a slot teceiver. What are you smoking? 

 

If you are going to try to trash someone please do your homework. Stop embarrassing yourself. 

I suggest you follow your team longer than the last game maybe that’s how far your memory goes Klein was a playmaker in this defense for us as recently as last year and we couldn’t retain him because he cost too much

 

it has already been established that Heinz can play that slot receiver spot

 

stop being a part of the village idiot crowd

[Process]

5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

stop being a part of the village idiot crowd

It's way too late for that 

[newcam2012]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

The only reason the road is currently going through KC again is because our lord and savior 17 has made some terrible bone headed mistakes the last two games.  
 

Our coaching could be better, but we have a rookie play caller who’s trying to figure out how to do his job.  Our defense started out stellar and then got ravaged by injuries.  If we had maybe lost Hyde and no one else, we’d probably be undefeated right now.  
 

 

A healthy Bills team including Hyde and Tre would make the Bills very difficult to beat. Imho, prior to the season's start the Bills had to best roster in the NFL. Fast forward to now and the Bills roster is decimented with key injuries. The teams weaknesses are being exposed. 

8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I suggest you follow your team longer than the last game maybe that’s how far your memory goes Klein was a playmaker in this defense for us as recently as last year and we couldn’t retain him because he cost too much

 

it has already been established that Heinz can play that slot receiver spot

 

stop being a part of the village idiot crowd

Klein won't stop Chubb. Klein isn't anything special so stop trying to sell his playmaking ability here. 

 

Hines can't even see the field on offense yet he's going to be the Bills slot receiver now. 

 

John you are living in fantasy land. 

[newcam2012]

19 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Have to disagree with you on the coaching comparassion. Reid is hands down a better coach than McD. Probably a hall of fame inductee. Very rarely will you see Reid get out coached. McD can be out coached on every given Sunday. Reid and Mahomes have the Super Bowl rings. McD and Allen can't even sniff an AFC Championship game.  Sorry to say that combo Reid and Mahomes are clearly ahead of McD and Allen. The Bills have lost 2 playoff games in Arrowhead. The Bills regular season wins don't come close to making the score even. 

Good luck if you think Klien is going to contain Chubb. Only a village idiot would think he's going to be a difference maker this Sunday. 

 

Hines is not a slot teceiver. What are you smoking? 

 

If you are going to try to trash someone please do your homework. Stop embarrassing yourself. 

Are we talking about the AJ Klein who was waived by the elite Bear defense? 

9 minutes ago, Process said:

It's way too late for that 

If the truth hurts, people don't like the blunt truth, and blind homerism is being called out then I guess I'll gladly take the label. 

[John from Riverside]

9 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

 

A healthy Bills team including Hyde and Tre would make the Bills very difficult to beat. Imho, prior to the season's start the Bills had to best roster in the NFL. Fast forward to now and the Bills roster is decimented with key injuries. The teams weaknesses are being exposed. 

Klein won't stop Chubb. Klein isn't anything special so stop trying to sell his playmaking ability here. 

 

Hines can't even see the field on offense yet he's going to be the Bills slot receiver now. 

 

John you are living in fantasy land. 

No one player stops a running game, but I seriously think that you’re having some sort of amnesia about Klein and what he brings to the team

 

Hines is not going to be the bills slot receiver hopefully that will be shakur but he can play that role and he has played that role for the Colts

 

Let’s keep in mind here that we are talking about one player making all this problem McKenzie who frankly hasn’t been that good this year can totally be replaced

 

One of the problems that the bills have as they have several players that can play one spot McKenzie is actually holding them back

6 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

Are we talking about the AJ Klein who was waived by the elite Bear defense? 

You know, you’re a village idiot when you start answering your own posts

[NewEra]

16 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

 

A healthy Bills team including Hyde and Tre would make the Bills very difficult to beat. Imho, prior to the season's start the Bills had to best roster in the NFL. Fast forward to now and the Bills roster is decimented with key injuries. The teams weaknesses are being exposed. 

Klein won't stop Chubb. Klein isn't anything special so stop trying to sell his playmaking ability here. 

 

Hines can't even see the field on offense yet he's going to be the Bills slot receiver now. 

 

John you are living in fantasy land. 

Every team that loses multiple pro bowl players have their weaknesses exposed.  You can’t have great depth at every position.  We have better depth than most.  

[TBBills]

4 hours ago, DCofNC said:

So replacing 2 veterans with 1, who isn’t valued by the rest of the league for as much as either of the guys you lost and drafting a 5th round rookie is “doing something”.   Salary doesn’t mean anything, so I suppose that’s why the big FA signing needed 17M a year to sign.  Get real, your argument is an utter farce.  

That is how the NFL works... you have no real argument. You are grasping at fake straws, Sanders retired and so did Beasley.

 

For a guy who pretends to know football you sure don't know how teams replace aging talent that is over the hill and ended up retiring. They draft guys... Diggs was a 5th round talent. So by your standards he is a "farce"

 

 

So funny watching people show how little they know about how sports work even when it happens infront of their face. They want the best at every position and they want talent that is already proven but that isn't how it works. 

 

It's actually becoming pathetic to still have to deal with people like that on these forums.

Edited November 19, 2022 by TBBills