Wawrow hints an Internal Issues with the Bills

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

I heard that from Sal this am too. It certainly seems like it is a mental hurdle for him. 

 

I don't see Diggs as cancerous, I see him as a very, very passionate player. I don't think Edmunds or Oliver would dog it, but I could see Poyer betting on a big raise this offseason and trying to stay healthy and trying to show his worth to the team. 

 

I think OBJ would be enough to give everyone a big kick in the ass the right way at this point where we are this year

 

Unfortunately Mother Nature decided to give us the worst weather possible since the OBJ "rather play in warm weather climate" statement.  

 

Snowy mix against Minnesota and a blizzard this weekend... I'm sure he knows what the weather is like in Buffalo, but we definitely reminded him. 

[JDubya76]

4 hours ago, london_bills said:

The sabres have been struggling for a few years though, more likely to get a meddling owner 

Pegula is directly responsible for a bunch of bad decisions for the Sabres. Forcing out Latontaine, Ville Leino’s signing and contract which I think him and Hodgson still count against their cap, Firing Ted Black, never hired a real hockey guy for team president, refusing to bring in a consultant to help mentor the greenest of the green gms and coaches he’s been hiring. Until moving their pet, Adams, into the gm position they have been a mess.

[freddyjj]

14 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

the tre being healthy thing is interesting. WGR had a good point this morning that this was the first real time he's been away from football and missed time - which i don't think is accurate because i thought he tore his knee already once. still, could see him not ready to play yet.

The ACL is his first major injury as a Pro or college player

Edited November 16, 2022 by freddyjj

[Big Turk]

12 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Honestly... you shouldnt talk about things that you cant talk about.  Saying things like "there is internal conflict with the team" but not being able to talk about what that is, is kind of horseshit.  All it does is create rumors about what that can be and all that does is create conflict with Bills fans arguing about it. Rumors then end up being some kind of fact.  If you cant talk about something then dont say anything at all.  There is zero reason to say anything.

 

If you have a story then break it.  Otherwise just stop.

 

Be assured the Bills themselves could care less about this, and if they are aware of it are probably laughing about it in the locker room...just like the "Bickering Bills" were.  Comes off as media people who likely never played sports at any level that have no idea what actually goes on in a locker room thinking something is weird or out of line, when it's normal.

8 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Unfortunately Mother Nature decided to give us the worst weather possible since the OBJ "rather play in warm weather climate" statement.  

 

Snowy mix against Minnesota and a blizzard this weekend... I'm sure he knows what the weather is like in Buffalo, but we definitely reminded him. 

 

Not a blizzard.  A Lake effect Snow event.

Edited November 16, 2022 by Big Turk

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, john wawrow said:

 

No. The Vax stuff never tore the team apart. But it almost did, contributing heavily to the mid-season slump last year until Josh Allen finally put his foot down.

As for what I hinted at, there was one more hint this week on it. ... Still working on getting to the bottom of it.

 

I'm not mad, except for the fact I'm wasting my time responding to, checks name, really, leGoatski.

 

sigh.

 

Just following my instincts and what people tell me, to get to the truth. You're the one speculating on what I know and don't.

 

jw

 

 

With the exception of 2018 when the Bills fielded one of the worst offenses in the NFL's SB era in the first half of the season.........they have had a midseason slump every year under McDermott.

 

Not sure how you determined that the vax issue contributed "heavily" to poor play on the field.   Seems hard to quantify that.  The game Beasley and Davis actually missed because they weren't vaxed the team eviscerated the Patriots in Foxboro.   

 

A month+ lack of focus/intensity every season has been the norm.    That should be the story.   

[Big Turk]

20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

With the exception of 2018 when the Bills fielded one of the worst offenses in the NFL's SB era in the first half of the season.........they have had a midseason slump every year under McDermott.

 

Not sure how you determined that the vax issue contributed "heavily" to poor play on the field.   Seems hard to quantify that.  The game Beasley and Davis actually missed because they weren't vaxed the team eviscerated the Patriots in Foxboro.   

 

A month+ lack of focus/intensity every season has been the norm.    That should be the story.   

 

Agree...it's almost like the Bills get bored with other teams and stop preparing hard for them.

[FilthyBeast]

I think the main issue everyone needs to examine is why this team seems to fade midseason every year under McDermott (not including the 2018 rebuilding year)

 

2017 - Started 5-2, finished 9-7. Obviously this was also technically a 'rebuilding' year but we know how it ended with them overachieving early and backing into the playoffs on the arm of Andy Dalton 4th and 18 play by the Bengals late in the 4th quarter and ending the 17 year drought. Midseason was mired by 3 straight horrible blowout losses culminating in the Peterman/Chargers debable before the bleeding stopped.

 

2019 - Started 6-2, finished 10-6.  Team was actually 5-1 before losing 2 of 3. Got a little hot again culminating in the infamous win in Dallas on Thanksgiving then lost 3 of 4 (and 4 of 5 overall including Texans playoff game).

 

2020 - Started 6-2, finished 13-3. Obviously this teams regular season high point thus far under McD/Allen. But it was the weird covid year and they did lose the two straight midseason against Chiefs/Titans. Also weren't that strong overall and barely beat the Jets and Pats in that stretch as well. Late season 6 game win streak was mostly against bad teams including a fading Steelers team whose 11-0 start was a mirage.

 

2021 - Started 4-1, finished 11-6 including going 3-5 over 2 month stretch. This season is most relevant not only because it's just last year, but they seamed to peak after winning in KC in week 5 and we appear to be going down a similar path this year after winning in KC in week 6. Did finish 4-0 but against bad teams and a fading NE team when their rookie QB hit a wall.

 

Bottom line, this all comes back to coaching and being able to keep a team ready and focuses for the rigors of a 17 week NFL season. Yes every team has bad games and nobody is every going undefeated again (which the Eagles also just found out), but at some point you have to be ready and pull out games you probably should lose which is what Mahomes and the Chiefs have done and Allen and the Bills have not.

[BADOLBILZ]

7 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Agree...it's almost like the Bills get bored with other teams and stop preparing hard for them.

 

 

There is a weak link in "The Process".    I'm not anti-McDermott but there has to be a solution to this and it's crazy that this is year 6 of the regime and it still happens every time.

 

What's the common denominator?   I don't know but maybe run defense is the surest sign of a lack of focus.   Run defense is probably the job that requires the most effort and technique to execute properly.   Winning and losing isn't about run defense anymore but if the team isn't in the right frame of mind that's probably where you will see it first.

[pocoboy]

Maybe the hint was in McDermott's assessment of the Tre saga.

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

There is a weak link in "The Process".    I'm not anti-McDermott but there has to be a solution to this and it's crazy that this is year 6 of the regime and it still happens every time.

 

What's the common denominator?   I don't know but maybe run defense is the surest sign of a lack of focus.   Run defense is probably the job that requires the most effort and technique to execute properly.   Winning and losing isn't about run defense anymore but if the team isn't in the right frame of mind that's probably where you will see it first.

 

But...this is the same issue that has faced the last 3 team that won the SB so it isn't just the Bills...all around the same 5-6 week timeframe during the season...

 

KC lost 4 of 6 to go to 6-4, TB 3 of 4 to go to 7-5 and Rams 3 straight to go to 7-4. All happened between weeks 10-12.  Must be something from a mentality standpoint where it is hard to keep getting up as much as the other team that views you as their super bowl type game.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, pocoboy said:

Maybe the hint was in McDermott's assessment of the Tre saga.

 

We need to know what TF is going on with that situation... something is not right. There is something mental going on with Tre and they aren't talking about it... they activated him 2 weeks ago and he's still not playing, so there you go.

[TheFunPolice]

another possible scenario... 

 

Maybe Poyer is thinking out loud and has a few friends who share his observations.

 

Here he is with a busted ribs, cracked bones sticking out of his collapsed lung, an elbow that looks like a broken drinking glass with his forearm hanging on by a few strips of flesh, driving himself to games so he can still play and be there for the team...

 

All that and "sorry man, there's no money for you" 

 

Meanwhile, Tre (who got big time $$) is totally healthy but has "mental hurdles." MENTAL F-ing HURDLES! 

 

I could see that being an issue. Not saying it is, but I wouldn't be shocked. 

 

 

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

another possible scenario... 

 

Maybe Poyer is thinking out loud and has a few friends who share his observations.

 

Here he is with a busted ribs, cracked bones sticking out of his collapsed lung, an elbow that looks like a broken drinking glass with his forearm hanging on by a few strips of flesh, driving himself to games so he can still play and be there for the team...

 

All that and "sorry man, there's no money for you" 

 

Meanwhile, Tre (who got big time $$) is totally healthy but has "mental hurdles." MENTAL F-ing HURDLES! 

 

I could see that being an issue. Not saying it is, but I wouldn't be shocked. 

 

 

 

Pretty common actually.  Almost all players talk about this that it's more mental at this stage than physical. Tre probably is frustrated he cannot do some things the way he used to, but also doesn't want to hear that it will take time for that to come back.

Edited November 16, 2022 by Big Turk

[Straight Hucklebuck]

24 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

There is a weak link in "The Process".    I'm not anti-McDermott but there has to be a solution to this and it's crazy that this is year 6 of the regime and it still happens every time.

 

What's the common denominator?   I don't know but maybe run defense is the surest sign of a lack of focus.   Run defense is probably the job that requires the most effort and technique to execute properly.   Winning and losing isn't about run defense anymore but if the team isn't in the right frame of mind that's probably where you will see it first.

I think it's McDermott's general demeanor. 

 

He is like Doug Marrone in this way. He knows it all, he's seen everything before, he's done it all, and he comes off as no nonsense and strict. 

 

By all accounts the team is close, Von Miller talked about how the Bills are unlike any team he's been around. So it comes down to winning, and 13-seconds probably put a crack in the foundation. And losses like Sunday just get people grumbling. 

 

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by Straight Hucklebuck

[Johnnyp566]

John Wawrow…the king of loaded/confusing questions. I think he’s set a record for loading a question so much that it actually ceases to be a question. 

[BarleyNY]

16 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

another possible scenario... 

 

Maybe Poyer is thinking out loud and has a few friends who share his observations.

 

Here he is with a busted ribs, cracked bones sticking out of his collapsed lung, an elbow that looks like a broken drinking glass with his forearm hanging on by a few strips of flesh, driving himself to games so he can still play and be there for the team...

 

All that and "sorry man, there's no money for you" 

 

Meanwhile, Tre (who got big time $$) is totally healthy but has "mental hurdles." MENTAL F-ing HURDLES! 

 

I could see that being an issue. Not saying it is, but I wouldn't be shocked. 

 

 

I think that’s a very logical guess. Edmunds makes sense in that regard too (though he hasn’t gone through what Poyer has).  He is looking for his payday and hasn’t gotten it while others have. 

[BADOLBILZ]

30 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

But...this is the same issue that has faced the last 3 team that won the SB so it isn't just the Bills...all around the same 5-6 week timeframe during the season...

 

KC lost 4 of 6 to go to 6-4, TB 3 of 4 to go to 7-5 and Rams 3 straight to go to 7-4. All happened between weeks 10-12.  Must be something from a mentality standpoint where it is hard to keep getting up as much as the other team that views you as their super bowl type game.

 

 

That's the reason not to panic but those teams aren't really apples to apples comparisons to the Bills in some key regards.

 

KC has hosted the AFCCG 4 straight years now......including the season prior to winning the SB.........they have proven to be more consistent than Buffalo.

 

Tom Brady had already won 6 SB's and reached the SB by winning on the road before.

 

The Rams HC had lead his team to a SB appearance on the road before last year as well.

 

The Bills HC nor QB have even won a road game in the playoffs let alone reached a Super Bowl.

 

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by BADOLBILZ

[Reed83HOF]

47 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

There is a weak link in "The Process".    I'm not anti-McDermott but there has to be a solution to this and it's crazy that this is year 6 of the regime and it still happens every time.

 

What's the common denominator?   I don't know but maybe run defense is the surest sign of a lack of focus.   Run defense is probably the job that requires the most effort and technique to execute properly.   Winning and losing isn't about run defense anymore but if the team isn't in the right frame of mind that's probably where you will see it first.

 

The lack of focus is evident on the diggs false start, I can't use Dawkins holding against the jets (it wasn't) but it is all the mental blips that happen. Cam Lewis going for a pick instead of swatting it down. The lack of focus shows when you can look at some film clips and see poorly timed, poor decision making and even the predictably of what we are running on offense as far as plays go. It feels like this even effects the offensive coaching staff.

[BADOLBILZ]

12 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I think it's McDermott's general demeanor. 

 

He is like Doug Marrone in this way. He knows it all, he's seen everything before, he's done it all, and he comes off as no nonsense and strict. 

 

By all accounts the team is close, Von Miller talked about how the Bills are unlike any team he's been around. So it comes down to winning, and 13-seconds probably put a crack in the foundation. And losses like Sunday just get people grumbling. 

 

 

 

 

Like I said.........I don't know what the common denominator that causes this each season is..........but that's as reasonable of a guess as any IMO.

 

As for Allen recently.........he's been looking like a guy whose head has been elsewhere since the bye so the barstool speculation has included perhaps Allen got some unwanted or bad news during the bye.   I will do my best JW and leave it at that. 

[boyst]

53 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

There is a weak link in "The Process".    I'm not anti-McDermott but there has to be a solution to this and it's crazy that this is year 6 of the regime and it still happens every time.

 

What's the common denominator?   I don't know but maybe run defense is the surest sign of a lack of focus.   Run defense is probably the job that requires the most effort and technique to execute properly.   Winning and losing isn't about run defense anymore but if the team isn't in the right frame of mind that's probably where you will see it first.

so as we grasp at straws and the thoughts i am having with john's most recent update: i think of how players discuss teammates. there is praise for some we consider weak links (singleterry and edmunds). there isn't much silence on any specific positions and there is no glaring missing void - but somehow i keep looking at the hyde & poyer duo for some reason. a hunch? a guess? a nothingburger?

[Buffalo Junction]

2 hours ago, mrags said:

Glad you at least pointed out Kamaras TDs and receiving stats. They are incomparable. To even bring his name up in the argument is ridiculous regardless what you or anyone else says about my comments of 1k yards. Forget 1k yards. He’s never even got 900. He’s got 13 total rushing TDs in 3.5 years. He’s just not good. Never has been. There is no argument that proves that he is. Just because he’s had a few good runs in his career. He’s a dud at the position and if he’s resigned which I highly doubt, it’ll be for a very team friendly deal. And we will continue to look for other RBs that can take away his Carrie’s like we’ve done the last 2.5 years with multiple draft picks, free agents, and trades. 

I see you’ve moved the goalposts…. Once again. Since you didn’t understand my point the first few times, Singletary isn’t an all-pro RB like Kamara, but he’s fine as a committee back. He’s also not going to cost $75 million to resign like Kamara. It’s certainly not Singletary’s fault that Beane has done a poor job of procuring good guards and other backs for a committee approach. If by chance you believe Beane has drafted talented RBs then Singletary’s been good enough to keep his job. Maybe it’s coaching though. The past three games they’ve averaged 7 second half runs from players not named Allen which is an issue in its own right… Dorsey doesn’t even seriously try to run the ball late in games. 
 

If you’d prefer the team to just go out and spend a 1st on a RB, or overpay a James Hunt or Josh Jacobs this year just say that’s fine. There will certainly more talented backs available this off-season. I’d just rather them spend their limited resources on good offensive linemen instead of bottom of the barrel guards and high mileage RBs. 

[BADOLBILZ]

13 minutes ago, boyst said:

so as we grasp at straws and the thoughts i am having with john's most recent update: i think of how players discuss teammates. there is praise for some we consider weak links (singleterry and edmunds). there isn't much silence on any specific positions and there is no glaring missing void - but somehow i keep looking at the hyde & poyer duo for some reason. a hunch? a guess? a nothingburger?

 

Poyer is the toughest guy on the team and sorely missed when not playing this season........but I think the Bills have accurately guaged that he was wearing down physically and would be more prone to injury and that's why they didn't make extending him a priority.   There might be some tension between some players over those that are playing thru injury and those that are not but I don't think it accounts for the overall malaise the team is in.   It happens every year regardless of health or circumstance, it seems.

[boyst]

3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Poyer is the toughest guy on the team and sorely missed when not playing this season........but I think the Bills have accurately guaged that he was wearing down physically and would be more prone to injury and that's why they didn't make extending him a priority.   There might be some tension between some players over those that are playing thru injury and those that are not but I don't think it accounts for the overall malaise the team is in.   It happens every year regardless of health or circumstance, it seems.

i don't think there is any issue between poyer and tre. i watch a lot of the videos with my step son that the Bills put out tre is always picking and goofing around with poyer who engages him. while tre is goofy and silly and poyer is generally more poised i think they're fine. hyde just has a personality that's always laserlike but i don't think there is an issue there.

 

our struggles are on offense so maybe you're right. josh has to be frustrated to not have a trust outlet with mckenzie having a tough going, knox blocking.... maybe there is something there with Knox getting a pass bcause of his brother?

[BADOLBILZ]

15 minutes ago, boyst said:

i don't think there is any issue between poyer and tre. i watch a lot of the videos with my step son that the Bills put out tre is always picking and goofing around with poyer who engages him. while tre is goofy and silly and poyer is generally more poised i think they're fine. hyde just has a personality that's always laserlike but i don't think there is an issue there.

 

our struggles are on offense so maybe you're right. josh has to be frustrated to not have a trust outlet with mckenzie having a tough going, knox blocking.... maybe there is something there with Knox getting a pass bcause of his brother?

 

 

He misses 2020 Beasley terribly and 2021 Beasley at least tangibly.....but that ship had sailed.    He was in considerable decline.

 

What the team needed to do was address the boundary WR position so that they had the option of moving Diggs to the slot against good opponents and super charging the passing attack.

 

There was a lot of mocking done on this board about the need for receiver help but I think it's abundantly clear to everyone now that the only receiver Josh trusts implicitly is Diggs.    

 

The rest aren't trash but everyone else is playing a notch above their fit.     I mean,  when they have to run Kumerow on the field they might as well be sending a fullback wide.......he's just a body,  not a threat.    

[LeGOATski]

3 hours ago, john wawrow said:

 

No. The Vax stuff never tore the team apart. But it almost did, contributing heavily to the mid-season slump last year until Josh Allen finally put his foot down.

As for what I hinted at, there was one more hint this week on it. ... Still working on getting to the bottom of it.

 

I'm not mad, except for the fact I'm wasting my time responding to, checks name, really, leGoatski.

 

sigh.

 

Just following my instincts and what people tell me, to get to the truth. You're the one speculating on what I know and don't.

 

jw

Did you ever write about Josh putting his foot down? I've never heard that specific story. Sounds like it would've been a memorable one.

 

I remember you asking in multiple press conferences about the vaxx issues and the team giving you the same answers every time, not giving you any interesting sound bites, but you kept beating that dead horse. And now you're still at it.

 

You were the only reporter who kept pushing it every week in hopes of getting something juicy. I think the players were more tired of fans and media shoving this non-issue down their throats. Beasley and the vaxx stuff was distracting, but didn't "almost tear the team apart." That's so dramatic.

 

Keep working at getting to the bottom of that delicious hint. I'm sure you'll find something.

1 hour ago, Johnnyp566 said:

John Wawrow…the king of loaded/confusing questions. I think he’s set a record for loading a question so much that it actually ceases to be a question. 

☝️

[boyst]

11 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

He misses 2020 Beasley terribly and 2021 Beasley at least tangibly.....but that ship had sailed.    He was in considerable decline.

 

What the team needed to do was address the boundary WR position so that they had the option of moving Diggs to the slot against good opponents and super charging the passing attack.

 

There was a lot of mocking done on this board about the need for receiver help but I think it's abundantly clear to everyone now that the only receiver Josh trusts implicitly is Diggs.    

 

The rest aren't trash but everyone else is playing a notch above their fit.     I mean,  when they have to run Kumerow on the field they might as well be sending a fullback wide.......he's just a body,  not a threat.    

and yet i never wonder what Crowder would have added to us except a replica of McKenzie.

 

yet, Crowder hurt our strategy. having that option for inside routes and his knowledge/experience is impressive for what he adds.

 

Let's hope Stevenson has some serviceable qualities he can add to our WR corps beyond another body on the field.

 

Maybe the trust issue with Josh is an issue people are noticing and the whole mix of emotions is causing turmoil from leadership who do not know what to do all the way to Davis and Knox who are tragically underperforming.

[LabattBlue]

1 hour ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

 

We need to know what TF is going on with that situation... something is not right. There is something mental going on with Tre and they aren't talking about it... they activated him 2 weeks ago and he's still not playing, so there you go.

Why do "we need to know"?  What will change if you are given more info in regards to Tre' White?

[Reed83HOF]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Like I said.........I don't know what the common denominator that causes this each season is..........but that's as reasonable of a guess as any IMO.

 

As for Allen recently.........he's been looking like a guy whose head has been elsewhere since the bye so the barstool speculation has included perhaps Allen got some unwanted or bad news during the bye.   I will do my best JW and leave it at that. 

What was the barstool speculation? I missed that one

[HappyDays]

Personally I think it's silly that these "internal issues" are suddenly coming to light after two losses. Mike Florio was saying something before the season about how he had heard from people close to the team that there was a lot of pressure on the coaching staff that was possibly getting to them. Then we blew out our first two opponents and he coincidentally went silent about our supposed issues.

 

Long story short things are great when we're winning, things are not great when we're losing. The biggest internal issue we've had this year is injuries. I know no one wants to hear excuses but that's the reality, same as it was for the Ravens last year and the 49ers the year before that.

[BADOLBILZ]

6 minutes ago, boyst said:

and yet i never wonder what Crowder would have added to us except a replica of McKenzie.

 

yet, Crowder hurt our strategy. having that option for inside routes and his knowledge/experience is impressive for what he adds.

 

Let's hope Stevenson has some serviceable qualities he can add to our WR corps beyond another body on the field.

 

Maybe the trust issue with Josh is an issue people are noticing and the whole mix of emotions is causing turmoil from leadership who do not know what to do all the way to Davis and Knox who are tragically underperforming.

 

 

I think they thought they had really gotten one over on the league by getting Crowder for cheap.   The odds that he was washed were significant and that's basically how it has turned out.   When you are a team that throws the ball 60% of the time like Buffalo you can't let your receiving corps decline and expect not to feel it.    It's not nearly as explosive as it was in 2020 and less reliable than 2021.   

[BADOLBILZ]

10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Personally I think it's silly that these "internal issues" are suddenly coming to light after two losses. Mike Florio was saying something before the season about how he had heard from people close to the team that there was a lot of pressure on the coaching staff that was possibly getting to them. Then we blew out our first two opponents and he coincidentally went silent about our supposed issues.

 

Long story short things are great when we're winning, things are not great when we're losing. The biggest internal issue we've had this year is injuries. I know no one wants to hear excuses but that's the reality, same as it was for the Ravens last year and the 49ers the year before that.

 

It's not the same as it was for the Ravens and 49ers.    They lost their QB.   But yes, the injuries have been a significant contributing factor in reducing the margin for error.   But even with the injuries all 3 losses were largely avoidable.   Took a comedy of errors to lose each one, really.   

[HappyDays]

9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

It's not the same as it was for the Ravens and 49ers.    They lost their QB.   But yes, the injuries have been a significant contributing factor in reducing the margin for error.   But even with the injuries all 3 losses were largely avoidable.   Took a comedy of errors to lose each one, really.   

 

The Dolphins loss I fully attribute to injuries/heat exhaustion. The Jets loss is more on Allen. The Vikings loss I blame mostly on coaching. The fact that we've won some of the games we have with such a high point differential despite the injury issues is a testament to how well the coaching staff has prepared everyone on the roster from the top down. Dorsey in particular has been a weak link over the past couple games and doesn't really have excuses. McDermott and Frazier have been handicapped by roster attrition.

 

Losing sucks, especially for a team with Super Bowl aspirations. I have no doubt there is some discomfort in the locker room that any reporter who hangs around the players a bit will notice. I just don't believe there is some larger issue bubbling under the surface.

[SectionC3]

42 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

What was the barstool speculation? I missed that one

I have a guess.  Oof.  If it’s what I’m thinking, it’s pretty awesome and scary and definitely life-changing.  

2 hours ago, pocoboy said:

Maybe the hint was in McDermott's assessment of the Tre saga.

That’s what I’m thinking, too.  And I cannot imagine that Tre will play on Sunday and then again on Thursday. 

[BADOLBILZ]

26 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

The Dolphins loss I fully attribute to injuries/heat exhaustion. The Jets loss is more on Allen. The Vikings loss I blame mostly on coaching. The fact that we've won some of the games we have with such a high point differential despite the injury issues is a testament to how well the coaching staff has prepared everyone on the roster from the top down. Dorsey in particular has been a weak link over the past couple games and doesn't really have excuses. McDermott and Frazier have been handicapped by roster attrition.

 

Losing sucks, especially for a team with Super Bowl aspirations. I have no doubt there is some discomfort in the locker room that any reporter who hangs around the players a bit will notice. I just don't believe there is some larger issue bubbling under the surface.

 

 

I saw you posted something yesterday about McDermott becoming too aggressive.......but I think you discount what being hyper aggressive has helped this team overcome this season.    The Bills have had a lot of injuries on defense.......and some on offense........and their offensive personnel is not nearly as good as it was in 2020.    The aggression has paid off, IMO.    It's easy to be critical of the few times it doesn't work but maybe this is a .500 team at the bye while playing this quality of schedule but pulling in the reins more often.   There was a chart yesterday that the Bills have been the best decision making team on 3rd and 4th down by analytics,  in the league.   I don't think that part should change.   They just need to execute better.   

[mrags]

2 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

I see you’ve moved the goalposts…. Once again. Since you didn’t understand my point the first few times, Singletary isn’t an all-pro RB like Kamara, but he’s fine as a committee back. He’s also not going to cost $75 million to resign like Kamara. It’s certainly not Singletary’s fault that Beane has done a poor job of procuring good guards and other backs for a committee approach. If by chance you believe Beane has drafted talented RBs then Singletary’s been good enough to keep his job. Maybe it’s coaching though. The past three games they’ve averaged 7 second half runs from players not named Allen which is an issue in its own right… Dorsey doesn’t even seriously try to run the ball late in games. 
 

If you’d prefer the team to just go out and spend a 1st on a RB, or overpay a James Hunt or Josh Jacobs this year just say that’s fine. There will certainly more talented backs available this off-season. I’d just rather them spend their limited resources on good offensive linemen instead of bottom of the barrel guards and high mileage RBs. 

Finding one good RB is a lot asker and cheaper than finding multiple OLmen just saying 

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3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

I saw you posted something yesterday about McDermott becoming too aggressive.......but I think you discount what being hyper aggressive has helped this team overcome this season.    The Bills have had a lot of injuries on defense.......and some on offense........and their offensive personnel is not nearly as good as it was in 2020.    The aggression has paid off, IMO.    It's easy to be critical of the few times it doesn't work but maybe this is a .500 team at the bye while playing this quality of schedule but pulling in the reins more often.   There was a chart yesterday that the Bills have been the best decision making team on 3rd and 4th down by analytics,  in the league.   I don't think that part should change.   They just need to execute better.   

 

I can't think of a single time being aggressive has helped the team this year. Against the Chiefs it in fact cost us twice, but luckily they weren't able to capitalize on it.

 

I don't trust the analytics charts that claim to prove which teams make good decisions on 4th down. They just started popping up one day and everyone took them as gospel. I believe that you should always take points or field position until it becomes obvious that you need to be aggressive. I know that is an unpopular opinion these days but I have seen it happen more times than not where overly aggressive coaches have actually hurt their team. I get being overly aggressive if you have a young/rebuilding team that is clearly inferior to your opponent most weeks, like the Giants under Daboll. It makes sense to get a team like that some early confidence that they can match up against a superior roster, but our roster is well beyond that point. The Patriots have done it the right way every time for two decades, they just let the game come to them. Brandon Staley thought he would revolutionize the game and instead he is on the hot seat. I guess I'm a little bit old school on that point.

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1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

That’s what I’m thinking, too.  And I cannot imagine that Tre will play on Sunday and then again on Thursday. 

The question becomes, “How does this become an internal struggle?” 
 

The easiest answer? Maybe Tre should have been expected to be in better shape upon emerging from the PUP, and maybe he wasn’t. That might make a bunch of players pissed, especially ones who may be fighting injury themselves.

 

Definitely speculation…but that seems a lot more likely than “oh his knee isn’t letting him do this or that.” 

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49 minutes ago, mrags said:

Finding one good RB is a lot asker and cheaper than finding multiple OLmen just saying 

You can wave a magic wand and have Barry Sanders in his prime and it still may not help.

 

If there are no holes to run through, no one is going to look very good running.

 

 

[mrags]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

You can wave a magic wand and have Barry Sanders in his prime and it still may not help.

 

If there are no holes to run through, no one is going to look very good running.

 

 

Doesn’t make my argument wrong that it’s easier to find a good RB than it is to find a good OL. Not to mention we need at least 2 OL of your one of those people that think Dawkins is actually good. I personally think we need to replace 3 OL at the very least. But that’s not happening. 

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21 minutes ago, mrags said:

Doesn’t make my argument wrong that it’s easier to find a good RB than it is to find a good OL. Not to mention we need at least 2 OL of your one of those people that think Dawkins is actually good. I personally think we need to replace 3 OL at the very least. But that’s not happening. 

At the best we could hope to upgrade both guard positions. Saffold is a 1 year deal, van Roten, boettger, Morse, hart and Queensbury are all FA

 

We kinda ***** at OL next year beyond our Tackles.