We need another WR bad

[Utah John]

6 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I think the Bills could’ve done whatever they wanted tonight. But they had to stay within 10.5 points.

It sure seemed like that.  But I think the brain trust just wanted to beat a weak Packers team without showing too much to the Jets before next week's game.  They ran up a big lead, then held off the Packers and won the game.  They won the game, by a comfortable margin, and some people are worried because they didn't thrash the Packers like they did to the Steelers.  What the Bills are doing is stacking Ws, not blowouts. 

 

[DrPJax]

6 hours ago, Real McNasty said:

Shakira's hips don't lie.

 

More entertaining than that second half! Bills have to step it up to get to this level of being professional!  Why can’t we ever get this for the super bowl extended half time show!? 😊👍

[Back2Buff]

Gabe is failing as a number 2 WR.  I had high hopes, but I think he is what he is.  An inconsistent solid number 3 WR.  Will give you one or two catches a game.

[BananaB]

1 hour ago, Back2Buff said:

Gabe is failing as a number 2 WR.  I had high hopes, but I think he is what he is.  An inconsistent solid number 3 WR.  Will give you one or two catches a game.

Bills fans can’t handle reality sometimes. Averaging under 3 catches a game as a number 2 in this pass happy offense is not good enough. 

[Patrick Duffy]

1 hour ago, Back2Buff said:

Gabe is failing as a number 2 WR.  I had high hopes, but I think he is what he is.  An inconsistent solid number 3 WR.  Will give you one or two catches a game.

wtf

[HOUSE]

I told you guys Beasley would be missed....you said no

 

Now go sit in the corner....

[BananaB]

17 minutes ago, Patrick Duffy said:

wtf

How many balls should he be catching a game?

Edited October 31, 2022 by BananaB

[Punching Bag]

9 hours ago, Bangarang said:

Depth at long snapper is worrisome 

 

Blame the NFLPA. If not for their rules the Bills would have a player able to be backup LS who has had enough practice snaps.

[Irv]

I thought Davis was inactive.  

[The Jokeman]

9 hours ago, NickelCity said:

 

I mean...this team misses a mid-career Beasley for sure. We'd be darn near unstoppable. 

We were unstoppable for most of last night until Josh started making throws he knows better not to throw. Yet the Packers did have the top passing D going into the game so maybe they're better than they showed in the first half. 

[Freddie's Dead]

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[Bobby Hooks]

This thread is… something. Context matters, but c’mon. We beat the Packers (who were full of juice) by 10 points. People have off games, outside of Diggs, most of the D, and Singletary, no one really played all that outstanding. 
 

This should be something celebrated, not an indictment. How many teams can play a C game and come out winning by 10 points? 
 

I get that we’re kinda spoiled these days, and that was less than stellar, but seriously. The team is great, deal with it. 
 

 

Edited October 31, 2022 by Bobby Hooks

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

3 hours ago, HOUSE said:

I told you guys Beasley would be missed....you said no

 

Now go sit in the corner....

 

Diggs target share is up from 26.3 to 28%.  Slot targets are down from about 22% to 20%.  Other outside WR targets are down from 22.6% last year to 17.3% this year.  The big difference is RB targets are up from 15% to 21%.  

 

I'd say they miss his hands a bit, but a lot of his targets have shifted to Singletary and likely Cook as the season progresses.  They both are able to create more YAC than Beasley.  The crowder injury was unfortunate but Shakir seems to be coming along.  I don't think this team is any better with Beasley tbh. 

[Sestak4ever]

55 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said:

This thread is… something. Context matters, but c’mon. We beat the Packers (who were full of juice) by 10 points. People have off games, outside of Diggs, most of the D, and Singletary, no one really played all that outstanding. 
 

This should be something celebrated, not an indictment. How many teams can play a C game and come out winning by 10 points? 
 

I get that we’re kinda spoiled these days, and that was less than stellar, but seriously. The team is great, deal with it. 
 

 

I was thinking the same thing. We didn’t play all that well, seemed a little unfocused coming off the bye, and still won handily. We are an extremely dangerous team and Gabe is an excellent receiver. He is probably one of the strongest receivers in the league and comes through when needed.

[Nextmanup]

5 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

Gabe is failing as a number 2 WR.  I had high hopes, but I think he is what he is.  An inconsistent solid number 3 WR.  Will give you one or two catches a game.

 

3 hours ago, BananaB said:

Bills fans can’t handle reality sometimes. Averaging under 3 catches a game as a number 2 in this pass happy offense is not good enough. 

I thought Gabe had a pretty disappointing game last night, especially the way in which he seemed more interested in fighting after the whistle than catching--and holding onto--the ball.

 

He has to be better--but you can't lean on that single game and say "he's failing".

 

It's hard to judge number of catches or even targets when you have no idea what the plays are, where they are supposed to go, how many passes that DON'T go Gabe's way are on Josh, etc.

 

I would like to see him catch more, but that could be on the OC.

 

 

[FilthyBeast]

It's really too bad that Beasely didn't have anything left and/or wanted to stay in Buffalo because you can definitely feel his absence at times this season in terms of a reliable option in the slot.

 

Still would like to see Shakir get a closer look there down the stretch assuming this team doesn't make any moves for another WR.

[Malazan]

13 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

Not this years MVP

 

to be fair, a lot of people are saying we beat ourselves.. or if you want.. we beat him last week

[SCBills]

4 hours ago, Patrick Duffy said:

wtf

 

I love Gabe Davis' explosive ability, but it's not a wild take.  

 

What has he shown to be considered a legit #2?   He's not reliable game in / game out.   He dropped a slant that would have likely been taken to the house and daggered that torturous game.  He allowed Jaire Alexander to get in his head all night. 

 

You can certainly get by with what Gabe is right now (one of the league's best deep threats/big play WR's) IF you have a reliable slot WR and/or TE to move the chains.  We currently have neither.  Our slot WR and our TE are also inconsistent splash play guys.  

 

There's got to be someone beyond Diggs and the RB's that Allen can rely on to move the chains through the air. 

 

 

Edited October 31, 2022 by SCBills

[T master]

15 hours ago, BananaB said:

Does Gabe or Isiah even have 20 catches this year? We lost Beas’s 80+ and these guys might not hit that combined. We need more then Diggs and Allen. Hope Beane is making calls because that was a ***** brutal game. 

 

WR with what players are active & those on the PS is one of the strongest rooms the Bills have RB is the weaker of the 2 !! 

[Process]

I usually bash and laugh at people with stupid overreactions after bad games but this is not that. This is legit. 

 

Gabe is inconsistent and mostly a deep threat. McKenzie is a gadget player and not a starter. And we have zero depth. 

 

This team needs more at WR. And that's nothing new, was one of our biggest needs in the off-season and we did nothing.

 

[st pete gogolak]

Davis wasn't the reason we lost last night.  Oh, wait a minute, we actually won by 10 points.  In all seriousness, he had a rough game, couple of drops, stupid penalty.  He's a very good #2.  Remember, he was hurt and basically gutted through a couple of games.  He also comes up big in big games.   We don't need receivers.  Maybe some backup help on the OL and safety depending on how serious Poyer's injury is.

[BananaB]

20 minutes ago, T master said:

 

WR with what players are active & those on the PS is one of the strongest rooms the Bills have RB is the weaker of the 2 !! 

Are you serious? Outside of Diggs who else has proven to be a consistent player. 

 

14 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said:

Davis wasn't the reason we lost last night.  Oh, wait a minute, we actually won by 10 points.  In all seriousness, he had a rough game, couple of drops, stupid penalty.  He's a very good #2.  Remember, he was hurt and basically gutted through a couple of games.  He also comes up big in big games.   We don't need receivers.  Maybe some backup help on the OL and safety depending on how serious Poyer's injury is.

Hes been targeted twice as many times as he catches the ball. So we’re basically crossing our fingers every time Allen looks his way. He makes some good plays but we need more consistency out of him or gotta find someone else who can bring in more receptions. 

[st pete gogolak]

6 minutes ago, BananaB said:

Are you serious? Outside of Diggs who else has proven to be a consistent player. 

 

Hes been targeted twice as many times as he catches the ball. So we’re basically crossing our fingers every time Allen looks his way. He makes some good plays but we need more consistency out of him or gotta find someone else who can bring in more receptions. 

He opened with a very good game against LA, missed Tenn with ankle injury, shouldn't have played against Mia and Balt because he was obviously not close to 100%, came back with monster game against Pitt and very good game against KC. Admittedly, he had a poor game last night but there's no way they are going to attempt to pick someone up to replace Davis as starter (including OBJ coming off ACL tear).  Not going to happen.

[BananaB]

28 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said:

He opened with a very good game against LA, missed Tenn with ankle injury, shouldn't have played against Mia and Balt because he was obviously not close to 100%, came back with monster game against Pitt and very good game against KC. Admittedly, he had a poor game last night but there's no way they are going to attempt to pick someone up to replace Davis as starter (including OBJ coming off ACL tear).  Not going to happen.

He’s a big play guy. He deserves his opportunity but we can’t wait on him while chasing a Super Bowl, we need reinsurance if he can’t pull it together. He’s around 50% catch rate this year and also for his career. You can say he was injured but in those games he played he had drops and that got nothing to do with a bum ankle. 
 

Allen is playing out of his mind for the most part and besides Diggs no one has truly been reliable.  

[CoudyBills]

1 hour ago, st pete gogolak said:

Davis wasn't the reason we lost last night.  Oh, wait a minute, we actually won by 10 points.  In all seriousness, he had a rough game, couple of drops, stupid penalty.  He's a very good #2.  Remember, he was hurt and basically gutted through a couple of games.  He also comes up big in big games.   We don't need receivers.  Maybe some backup help on the OL and safety depending on how serious Poyer's injury is.

Ideally a number 2 is steady, but to date Gabe is just not.  It's too much boom or bust right now.

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, Process said:

I usually bash and laugh at people with stupid overreactions after bad games but this is not that. This is legit. 

 

Gabe is inconsistent and mostly a deep threat. McKenzie is a gadget player and not a starter. And we have zero depth. 

 

This team needs more at WR. And that's nothing new, was one of our biggest needs in the off-season and we did nothing.

 

Meanwhile, we have the league best passing offense 

[Billsforumsucks]

18 hours ago, Herb Nightly said:

Davis is a averaging 26 yards per catch.

When he catches it, the drops are disappointing.

Shakir seems to have good hands, we need him in the rotation more.

[frogger]

For the best team in the NFL we have a lot of holes 🤦🏻‍♂️

[Process]

15 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Meanwhile, we have the league best passing offense 

The chiefs lead in ppg and just traded multiple picks for a WR. What is your point?

 

Outside of Diggs do we have very little at the skill positions? Yes. Do we have zero depth at WR? Yes. 

 

Than it's probably a good idea to add one to maximize our chance of winning a SB, even if we are the favorites regardless.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Don Otreply]

We need to use more of the receivers currently on the team, our slot guy (although I like him a lot) isn’t consistent enough, even though he has four (4) TDs on the season, he isn’t drawing coverage off Davis and Diggs enough, we need to mix things up, more than just using Diggs from the slot, Cook, Singletary, Knox & Shakir are currently way under used in passing situations, which is almost always, being that Dorsey stops using the run whenever it’s working, on top of all of that, player execution is NOT up to par. The good thing is that we have a team, GM, coaches on down that are reflective enough to know when they are under performing, which is amazing in itself, being that we are 6-1 and pretty much feared though out the league, talk about first world problems, 😂👍

GO BILLS!!!

[NewEra]

9 minutes ago, Process said:

The chiefs lead in ppg and just traded multiple picks for a WR. What is your point?

 

Outside of Diggs do we have very little at the skill positions? Yes. Do we have zero depth at WR? Yes. 

 

Than it's probably a good idea to add one to maximize our chance of winning a SB, even if we are the favorites regardless.

My point:  our initial depth was better than everyone thought.  We lost our #4 and #5 wr for several weeks.  Our #2 wr missed a game and was banged for parts of 2 others.  And we still have the top passing game.  Not a top passing game.  THE top passing game.  
 

sure, we could maximize our chance of winning this year at the expense of sustained success.  We may do that.  We may not.  Either way- it’s not necessary to win a title.  And if we do mortgage more of the future for a increased chance this year, a Lombardi isn’t guaranteed.  
 

It’s a crapshoot either way.  A move this year might help us.  It could also cost us. 

[Malazan]

2 hours ago, Buffalo619 said:

He’s has several drops this season. It’s concerning. 

 

Oh, I'm sure you have something to back that up like dropped pass stats.. 

 

Hint: Davis is 102 in number of drops (3) and is 69th in drop % (4.8%)

 

I'm sure SF is just chomping at the bit to get rid Kittle and Deebo. Gotta imagine DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Adam Thielen, and Cooper Kupp are also on the chopping block as they're worse than Davis in this area. 

 

Never understood why people make up bald faced lies. 

[unbillievable]

The plan is to make Davis look bad so they can extend him with a cheap contract.

Allen needs to stop throwing him touchdowns!

[GreggTX]

No we don't. We need OL help. That's our Achilles heel. A veteran S if Poyer is going to miss time. We don't need anyone to takes snaps from Davis. The OP suggests otherwise while ignoring the fact that he missed time and wasn't 100% for much of the season so far. Allen wasn't at his best, but he was harrassed by the pass rush all night.

[BananaB]

1 minute ago, GreggTX said:

No we don't. We need OL help. That's our Achilles heel. A veteran S if Poyer is going to miss time. We don't need anyone to takes snaps from Davis. The OP suggests otherwise while ignoring the fact that he missed time and wasn't 100% for much of the season so far. Allen wasn't at his best, but he was harrassed by the pass rush all night.

Lol! It’s not just Davis it’s McKenzie too. Both have not lived up to expectations. Find a better slot guy or find a better guy for the outside, either will help. 

[Freddie's Dead]

20 minutes ago, Malazan said:

 

Oh, I'm sure you have something to back that up like dropped pass stats.. 

 

Hint: Davis is 102 in number of drops (3) and is 69th in drop % (4.8%)

 

I'm sure SF is just chomping at the bit to get rid Kittle and Deebo. Gotta imagine DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Adam Thielen, and Cooper Kupp are also on the chopping block as they're worse than Davis in this area. 

 

Never understood why people make up bald faced lies. 

 

DON'T CONFUSE US WITH FACTS!!!

[Augie]

6 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

DON'T CONFUSE US WITH FACTS!!!

 

But we SAW him drop the ball. 

 

I think I like Davis more than most people. I love what he brings to our team. He makes big plays. 

[Augie]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

He is very Jekyll and Hyde to this point…. Still lacks the consistency you want out of a 1B receiver.

 

For you. He’s a bit like Knox was early on, and I like how that is turning out. I was higher than most on Knox, too. (Believe me, I’m wrong a lot too.)  Davis will get it all together. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

19 hours ago, BananaB said:

 Got nothing to do with the spread, we are hitting half way through the season and neither guy looks to be reliable for anything but a splash play here and there. 

Lol