Low Positive Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 When stuff like this happens, I love to go read the team's board. The Colts board is fun right now. They of course have a poster who called for Ehlinger to start since training camp. People are saying that he's the next Jalen Hurts. People think that he'll be like rookie Russell Wilson. One person even brought up Tom Brady due to draft position. Funny thing is that at 3-3-1 the Colts are still in the Playoff picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: And Jalen Hurts is like Tua minus the concussions. Those guys just do play-action and roll outs. Neither can do a 5 step drop and hit a guy in a tight window. I wouldn't be holding either as some kind of level of competent QB play Jalen Hurts is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. He is most likely never going to be a Mahomes or Allen, but he doesn't need to be. It's no different than a number of years ago when it was Brady and Manning. Hurts in a capable QB who needs to perform what he does as well as he can, and the team puts players around him to succeed as much as possible. Where these wheels will fall off is next March when he should be signing a new contract. Right now, Spotrac has his "Market Value" at $800k more per year than Josh Allen. He will never live up to it. There is the disconnect I'm talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 The one game i saw that guy fill in he did really good & if Matty Ice isn't doing it they need to look to the future ASAP he may be able to salvage some of the season for them he is definitely more mobile than Matt . I hate it because i thought this might be a come back year for Matt but it's not looking that way . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Ryan may have an injury but I think the Colts are using it as a way to get Ryan out of the lineup and let him save face. He has by and large been atrocious. Ehlinger flashed for them in the preseason. Looked real sharp. In any event, I believe this is the slow rattle of death on the Frank Reich era in Indy. Why blame Reich if the gm is deciding who to sign or trade for? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said: Aside from the QB revolving door circus over the past several seasons, one thing that continues to plaque the Colts is their tendency for slow starts week after week. They always seem to be playing from behind, which further challenges their QB and o-line, not to mention taking J. Taylor out of the equation. Slow starts under Frank have been pretty common. Frank must be harkening back to the huge comeback playoff game against the Oilers. IIRC, Frank also had a large come from behind victory when he played at Maryland. "Down 20 points?" Aah, nothin' to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poleshifter Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: Didn't they tank for Luck? I absolutely believe they did tank for Luck (or "Suck for Luck"). Behind Payton, they had only Curtis Painter to man the QB spot. Irsay can deny it, but I am certain they intentionally tanked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nosejob Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Complete tire fire of a team. The definition of purgatory. Gotta feel bad for Jonathan Taylor. To be honest....at the time I thought Frank and Schwartz would have been the coaching dream team for us. Edited October 24, 2022 by nosejob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Remember when the Bengals threw the last game of the year to avoid the Colts in the WC game and then the Colts blew the game in Jacksonville to miss the playoffs outright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) I thought that Reich’s head coaching career was brilliant factoring in the purgatory aspect all the way up until week 15 last year. Then with the disaster at the end of last year he panicked when he scapegoated Wentz. Defenses at least had to respect Wentz’s arm/mobility enough to move out of the 9 man box that old Matty has faced all year. Edited October 24, 2022 by Charles Romes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 34 minutes ago, Poleshifter said: I absolutely believe they did tank for Luck (or "Suck for Luck"). Behind Payton, they had only Curtis Painter to man the QB spot. Irsay can deny it, but I am certain they intentionally tanked. They signed Kerry Collins while Manning's availability for the season was still up in the air. Kerry Collins started the 1st 3 games of the season, not Painter. Collins got a bad concussion & never played again. They couldn't just dial up another QB a month into the season & were stuck with the guy who was originally their 3rd stringer as the starter. If Irsay was that serious about tanking & was in on it, why did the coach & GM both get fired after the season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Unfortunately, Ryan hasn't played well for the last two years. Colts might do better with Ryan on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, djp14150 said: Why blame Reich if the gm is deciding who to sign or trade for? Ballard is most likely done as well. Reports are Irsey is growing tired of both. However considering that Reich spent 3 years as QB Coach and offensive coordinator in San Diego with Phillip Rivers and the went to Philly where he coached both Wentz and Foles...I doubt those 3 were brought in without his input. Ryan is a tad more random...but it likely was their last option at QB once Rodgers, Russ and everyone else were signed or traded. In any event, it may very well be time for fresh eyes on the problems in Indy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Sounds like tanking not going to Foles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 I really thought the Colts were going to be strong with Ryan at QB.Totally wrong there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 This is so reminiscent of the Bills pre-JA17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosejob Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Poleshifter said: Frank must be harkening back to the huge comeback playoff game against the Oilers. IIRC, Frank also had a large come from behind victory when he played at Maryland. "Down 20 points?" Aah, nothin' to it! Still the greatest comeback in college history. Not sure if the Oilers game is still the record....but he had them both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 I thought Ryan would be a good fit...oops. It's about time they go try youth rather than recycling washed vets. Colts should be a much better team than what they've shown so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Maybe the panthers could send them Zach Moss for Matt Ryan. I hear they need a Qb. Idk...what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Poleshifter said: I absolutely believe they did tank for Luck (or "Suck for Luck"). Behind Payton, they had only Curtis Painter to man the QB spot. Irsay can deny it, but I am certain they intentionally tanked. I really doubt it. They gave him a five-year $90M extension in July, after the surgery. There would have been zero reason to do that if they were tanking. They thought he was going to get better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Big Turk said: I mean wait...so are they actually benching him or is it because he is injured? . Apparently the answer to that either-or question is "Yes" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Do you think we could get him as our backup for Moss and a 5th rounder? Did I do that right? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 6 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: They admit they made a mistake trading for Ryan. Ho0w many admits are they allowed...they got Wentz in and then let him go,...now Ryan... 31 minutes ago, Augie said: Do you think we could get him as our backup for Moss and a 5th rounder? Did I do that right? Actually, I don't think there is a big difference between Keenum and Ryan at this point of his (Ryan) career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 6 hours ago, mushypeaches said: Gosh, if only the Colts could get their QB situation right after "luck"ing their way into two generational QB's and only having one ring to show for it Only one ring you say? What would I give to see the Bills win 1 ring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Big Turk said: Because Matt Ryan is doing his best Carson Wentz impersonation from last year for them. He has been really bad. Also would not be surprised if this was coming from Irsay knowing he is dumping Ballard and Reich and wanting to see if he needs to draft a new QB as well. Big Jim has feeling his oats lately. I bet he is pushing Frank. Ryan turned out to be a fairly poor choice to hold down the fort by now. But shouldn't they be tanking ? not tanking but tanking , tanking ? 48 minutes ago, Augie said: Do you think we could get him as our backup for Moss and a 5th rounder? Did I do that right? Back up the bus ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, ganesh said: Actually, I don't think there is a big difference between Keenum and Ryan at this point of his (Ryan) career. Maybe, but your approach doesn’t get rid of Moss and a 5th rounder. That seems to be a high priority within a certain crowd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: I really doubt it. They gave him a five-year $90M extension in July, after the surgery. There would have been zero reason to do that if they were tanking. They thought he was going to get better. They also signed Kerry Collins before the season. He got hurt and then they were down to Painter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 57 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: They also signed Kerry Collins before the season. He got hurt and then they were down to Painter Yep, Collins got hurt in an early-season game & Painter came in, then started the following week. Painter is still probably the worst starting QB I've ever seen in the NFL. Collins was ready to return after 1-2 awful Painter starts, but the Colts announced they were sticking with Painter for the rest of the year. The absolutely did that to "suck for Luck", there is no question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, 947 said: Yep, Collins got hurt in an early-season game & Painter came in, then started the following week. Painter is still probably the worst starting QB I've ever seen in the NFL. Collins was ready to return after 1-2 awful Painter starts, but the Colts announced they were sticking with Painter for the rest of the year. The absolutely did that to "suck for Luck", there is no question. Collins had a bad concussion. He retired when it was still lingering after a few weeks. At that point, what choice did the colts have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Ah...more info coming out. Apparently Colts decision in large part was based on being afraid a serious Ryan injury would leave them on the hook for a lot more than they are now due to injury guarantees 3 days into the new league year. He is guaranteed $12 million but has another $7.205 million guaranteed for injury and a $10 million roster bonus also guaranteed for injury. Apparently do not want to take a chance they are on the hook for an additional $17 million as they don't plan on him being their QB next year. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/10/25/matt-ryans-contract-is-the-main-reason-he-wont-play-for-the-colts-again-this-year/ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repulsif Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) sorry if it has been posted before : https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/10/25/matt-ryans-contract-is-the-main-reason-he-wont-play-for-the-colts-again-this-year/ edit, ahhh burned !!! Edited October 25, 2022 by Repulsif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 How is Frank still the coach of this team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 8 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: How is Frank still the coach of this team? Did he choose to bring in the QB ? Doubt it very seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 10 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: Did he choose to bring in the QB ? Doubt it very seriously So you're saying that the HC of the Colts had no say in the hiring of Phil Rivers, then Carson Wentz the following year, than Ryan the next? No way you believe that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 24 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: So you're saying that the HC of the Colts had no say in the hiring of Phil Rivers, then Carson Wentz the following year, than Ryan the next? No way you believe that. Sadly, unless Elhinger can win some games, Reich is a lame duck coach 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Sadly, unless Elhinger can win some games, Reich is a lame duck coach he’s just lame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 On 10/24/2022 at 7:17 PM, Whkfc said: Only one ring you say? What would I give to see the Bills win 1 ring. Sure we want that first ring, but 15 years from now would you feel satisfied if Allen retired with just one ring? A player of his immense talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/26/2022 at 7:51 AM, Mr. WEO said: So you're saying that the HC of the Colts had no say in the hiring of Phil Rivers, then Carson Wentz the following year, than Ryan the next? No way you believe that. He had input , oh sure. Do you think Frank would not have preferred to draft and develop a QB over time ? You know Irsay has his hands all over this. he's a a touchy feely guy. But yes you have me WEO , for overstating my position 😏 On 10/26/2022 at 8:28 AM, Mr. WEO said: he’s just lame Hell of an operation those Colts run. I still miss Earl Morrall and the days of high tops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/26/2022 at 8:36 AM, Fan in Chicago said: Sure we want that first ring, but 15 years from now would you feel satisfied if Allen retired with just one ring? A player of his immense talent? Beane wants a dynasty of Legendary tales. Karma owes us 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/24/2022 at 8:17 PM, Whkfc said: Only one ring you say? What would I give to see the Bills win 1 ring. February 12th 2023 you will and it will be glorious!😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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