SCBills Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Shaq wasn’t on the Bills at that time. He did play against him in 2019. Trent Murphy was fantastic in that game, if I am remembering correctly. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: I know Benford has the fractured hand, but is there any word on how long he is out for? If they don't put him on IR before the game then within 4 weeks probably. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stevewin Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: One thing that bothered me last week was not kicking the ball out of the EZ each kickoff. Why subject anyone to more heat/injury in those conditions. Just kick it out for God's sake 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 How well Dane, Benford, and Elam are playing hasn’t been talked about enough. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, stevewin said: One thing that bothered me last week was not kicking the ball out of the EZ each kickoff. Why subject anyone to more heat/injury in those conditions. Just kick it out for God's sake Because we routinely stopped them inside their 25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Because we routinely stopped them inside their 25. A pyrrhic victory for sure. Further exhaust and expose to injuries players who might be needed as guys are dropping like flies - for a few yds on kickoff? (not to mention risking a big return against exhausted players) That's ridiculous IMO Edit: BTW - Fins starting position after kickoff: 22, 17, and 24 yd line Edited September 28, 2022 by stevewin 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, stevewin said: A pyrrhic victory for sure. Further exhaust and expose to injuries players who might be needed as guys are dropping like flies - for a few yds on kickoff? (not to mention risking a big return against exhausted players) That's ridiculous IMO Okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, stevewin said: A pyrrhic victory for sure. Further exhaust and expose to injuries players who might be needed as guys are dropping like flies - for a few yds on kickoff? (not to mention risking a big return against exhausted players) That's ridiculous IMO In a vacuum you bet in your special teams when they are good. But the context is super important - miami situation, end of kc game, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Logic Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) Forget the game for a second. After watching from the stands as the ambulance come onto the field and took Dane Jackson away, giving me horrible Kevin Everett flashbacks... I'm just so glad the guy is okay. Whether he plays this week, next week, or five weeks from now, I'm glad he has no lasting damage. Hallelujah, amen. Edited September 28, 2022 by Logic 4 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Haha so we just signed OL Justin Murray and he is limited already? How fitting! 1 minute ago, Logic said: Forget the game for a second. After watching from the stands as the ambulance come onto the field and took Dane Jackson away, giving me horrible Kevin Everett flashbacks... I'm just so glad the guy is okay. Whether he plays this week, next week, or five weeks from now, I'm glad he has no lasting damage. Hallelujah, amen. Yeah it was my first live game and that ambulance was brutal. So happy he is already on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Looks like the boys be wearing White tops Sunday 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Looks like the boys be wearing White tops Sunday Hopefully no blue pants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Hopefully no blue pants blue over white or white over blue are both fine with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Not super concerned about Benford if Dane Jackson can go on Sunday. Certainly rooting for his health, but I think the drop in Benford v Elam is likely small to negligible. Hoping this is the last week without Tre and we are playing Jackson/White on the outside at home vs. Pittsburgh. At that point Elam and Benford become depth. The reason Poyer doesn't get the credit he is due nationally is his ability to diagnose and support run plays. Those plays just don't show up on the stat sheet. He'll be a huge loss against Baltimore if he isn't ready to go. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mango said: Not super concerned about Benford if Dane Jackson can go on Sunday. Certainly rooting for his health, but I think the drop in Benford v Elam is likely small to negligible. Hoping this is the last week without Tre and we are playing Jackson/White on the outside at home vs. Pittsburgh. At that point Elam and Benford become depth. The reason Poyer doesn't get the credit he is due nationally is his ability to diagnose and support run plays. Those plays just don't show up on the stat sheet. He'll be a huge loss against Baltimore if he isn't ready to go. Elam played great. When White comes back Jackson is going to the bench. Elam needs experience so he is solid in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Elam played great. When White comes back Jackson is going to the bench. Elam needs experience so he is solid in the playoffs. We aren't benching marginally better 6th round rookie Christian Benford so that Elam can get experience. We aren't benching the player that is significantly better in Dane Jackson so that Elam can get experience. Especially without Hyde and a possibly still banged up interior DL. Elam will rotate in, but Dane Jackson isn't getting benched when Tre comes back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Mango said: We aren't benching marginally better 6th round rookie Christian Benford so that Elam can get experience. We aren't benching the player that is significantly better in Dane Jackson so that Elam can get experience. Especially without Hyde and a possibly still banged up interior DL. Elam will rotate in, but Dane Jackson isn't getting benched when Tre comes back. Elam was a 1st round pick for a reason, if he's improving at his biggest weakpoint zone coverage then he could absolutely move up the depth chart. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I wonder if Lawson gets more playing time in this one. He contained jackson really well years ago. He seems to do well on occasion containing athletic qbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Johnnycage46 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Impossible!!!! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Elam was a 1st round pick for a reason, if he's improving at his biggest weakpoint zone coverage then he could absolutely move up the depth chart. Right, so I can get behind that. If/when Elam is the better player he will start. It is certainly possible that happens at some point this year. This staff has made a career of sitting rookies forever in favor of vets regardless of draft position. Nobody is starting for "experience". They will only start because they are starters. I took the post as Elam starting now regardless of who is better for the purpose of experience. If OP thinks Elam will start because he is the better player right now and will start that is fine. But it isn't what was said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: tHat CaN't bE aCcUraTe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mark Vader Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 6 hours ago, Beast said: How bad were the Bills back then? They won and the only TD's they showed in those highlights were Baltimore's. Even back then they were biased against Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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buffalonian Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Logic said: Forget the game for a second. After watching from the stands as the ambulance come onto the field and took Dane Jackson away, giving me horrible Kevin Everett flashbacks... I'm just so glad the guy is okay. Whether he plays this week, next week, or five weeks from now, I'm glad he has no lasting damage. Hallelujah, amen. I agree. I was at the Everett game as well as the game last week, and was having flashbacks to Everett and how sick I felt at that time. So glad that Cam appears to be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 49 minutes ago, Norcalbillsfan said: I wonder if Lawson gets more playing time in this one. He contained jackson really well years ago. He seems to do well on occasion containing athletic qbs. He was phenomenal in that game. That was Lamar’s MVP season I think when Baltimore was rolling everyone. Lawson really confused Jackson and he could not read him on a few occasions and the plays got blown up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ColoradoBills Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said: Haha so we just signed OL Justin Murray and he is limited already? How fitting! I would think being he just got off his couch and knows nothing of the scheme's, style and playbook they will have him loosen up today and be glued to Coach West side. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewEra Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Mango said: We aren't benching marginally better 6th round rookie Christian Benford so that Elam can get experience. We aren't benching the player that is significantly better in Dane Jackson so that Elam can get experience. Especially without Hyde and a possibly still banged up interior DL. Elam will rotate in, but Dane Jackson isn't getting benched when Tre comes back. I agree. But I do think elam has a chance to win the starting job if he significantly outplays Dane this week (if Dane plays). I could see whoever wins the job being subbed out for the other 1-2 drives per game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Mango said: Right, so I can get behind that. If/when Elam is the better player he will start. It is certainly possible that happens at some point this year. This staff has made a career of sitting rookies forever in favor of vets regardless of draft position. Nobody is starting for "experience". They will only start because they are starters. I thinks it’s possible Dane starts again once he’s fully healthy, but Elam would be the first 1st round pick of the McBeane era to not be a starter his rookie year. If Elam keeps playing the way he did the last 2 weeks and gets into a rhythm, it’s gonna be hard to justify sitting the guy you drafted to be a the future at CB2 for a JAG. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, gobills404 said: I thinks it’s possible Dane starts again once he’s fully healthy, but Elam would be the first 1st round pick of the McBeane era to not be a starter his rookie year. If Elam keeps playing the way he did the last 2 weeks and gets into a rhythm, it’s gonna be hard to justify sitting the guy you drafted to be a the future at CB2 for a JAG. Are you saying that’s Benford or Jackson are JAG’s? The numbers and my eyes see different. Both of them have performed very well in their time on the field so far this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Are you saying that’s Benford or Jackson are JAG’s? The numbers and my eyes see different. Both of them have performed very well in their time on the field so far this year. Levi Wallace also looked good in the Bills defense, but he was still very replaceable. Elam has been just as good as Dane/Benford and offers wayyyyy more upside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Elam played great. When White comes back Jackson is going to the bench. Elam needs experience so he is solid in the playoffs. I can virtually guarantee you that even when Tre is back and ready to go, he won't be out there for every snap. He's going to be worked in slowly so he can ramp himself up to full speed over a number of weeks. I think we will still see plenty of Jackson, Elam, and Benford for quite a while to come. The last thing we need is to just throw Tre back out there and overwork him, not just to protect his knee, but from other injuries as well. No matter how hard he's been working out and will come out and practice, anyone that is injured like he was will be more susceptible to new injuries by coming back and playing too much too soon. Long term health is the goal for Tre and being able to get the young kids more more important reps is going to be an added bonus. This is all about the big picture and having as many guys healthy as possible to go out and win after game 17 is over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: Are you saying that’s Benford or Jackson are JAG’s? The numbers and my eyes see different. Both of them have performed very well in their time on the field so far this year. I think what is being said is that the Bills defensive scheme minimizes player losses to as large a degree as possible by playing within a system that relies more on being in the proper position and great technique more than it does outstanding play. The outstanding play like we get from White, Hyde and Poyer are like the cherry on top, that takes it from it's floor of 15th-17th ranked defense at it's worse to closer to it's ceiling, but even with average players the defense can still function at a relatively high level by it being more team-centric than player-centric. If that makes any sense...not sure if I explained it well enough from my point of view or not. Edited September 28, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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