GunnerBill Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: There is ONE Beane draftee on the o-line and he was benched today for sucking. I think we need to see more to draw conclusions but you know I have been saying since March I don't think Saffold, Quessenberry and extending Bates was enough attention to what was our worst unit last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Why did Frazier only rush 3 on 3rd and 22? Frazier and Sean never learn on these 3rd and long Still don't like Fraziers decisions with the game on the line. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jerboski said: Those calls were absolutely atrocious go under center and sneak the damn ball it works 80% of the time just ridiculous Not with third string center you can’t afford a bad handoff there. But should have play actioned on 2 and than run on 3 n 4 with your RBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: There is ONE Beane draftee on the o-line and he was benched today for sucking. Spencer Brown went out for heat illness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Mikie's Bills said: I think being on the 3rd string C played a role in the playcall. C/QB exchange has been shaky under C without Morse We've done it 3 weeks in a row. Finally cost us today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, 716er said: The decision to go for the FG in which Bass missed on a 4th and 4 was a much worse decision IMO yep TDs win you games, FG attempts lose games 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: There is ONE Beane draftee on the o-line and he was benched today for sucking. He actually was pulled for "heat related issues" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I thought we had a number of questionable play calls in this game, whereas I don't remember more than a couple from the first 2 games combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Don’t understand why you don’t put Josh under center and either sneak it or you lead with the FB Gilliam followed by Moss! Dorsey over thinking this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: If the C to QB exchange isn't working then put Bates at C. I don't think that's a good excuse. 2nd and goal and inches away so you put your QB 5 yards back. It just doesn't make any sense. You have to run 5 yards just to get to where you already were Bates was out from the beginning of the 3rd quarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: That’s the only call the only call You can run that three times and you’re probably gonna score 95% of the time… it’s the only call when you’re that close with the game on the line When the ball gets down there inside the 5, I would want the ball in Josh's hands on every single play. Maybe some designed QB runs, maybe some option stuff with receiver options available, etc... If he can run it in, do it. If he sees an open guy, throw it. But keep it in his hands on EVERY PLAY. It won't fail 3 or 4 times in a row! It would probably work 3 times in a row! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILBillsfan Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 The thrid and one pass play i was thining two runs to get half a yard here ...... Course the pass to wide open McKenzie would of done it josh never stepped into the throw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Exactly!!! Why do they refuse to do this? hindsight is 20/20 - that quarterback sneak idea failed in Tennessee last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Our red zone performance today was pathetic and why we lost. We gave this game away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWatson#21 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Yeah this didn’t make any sense at all. This was a very weird game the way it played out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Why did Frazier only rush 3 on 3rd and 22? Frazier and Sean never learn on these 3rd and long and have waddle in single coverage with a backup safety 11 minutes ago, SCBills said: The 3rd down defensive call to rush 3 and not going for it on 4th and 4 were “feel” moments where I feel like the coaches didn’t have a grasp. We were getting pressure on Tua. Rushing 3 was a cowards move and let them expose our safeties. Up 3 didn’t feel much different than up 6. Bills were driving and it felt like a TD, up 10 would change the entire complexion of the game. i agree and agreed at the time too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: And that's the chess match I was referring to, it's not a high percentage play and the thought was probably the defense won't be expecting a pass, it didn't work out in our favor this time. If it did work out would this even be a thread? I'm just giving my opinion not hating on your thread or trying to argue about the play. It worked last week and yes I was upset. 4th and 1 and they rolled out and threw it back to Diggs. They got super lucky on that one and it didn't work this weekend. It all evens out. That's why you don't do it. If you can't get 1 yard pushing forward with a 6ft 5 240lb QB on 3 straight plays then you don't deserve to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yep. True. Bad call. But even after that Josh has Isaiah wide open for a touchdown. Too many mistakes. Players and coaches. But offensive line again is the theme that stands out They were working on his hand after the play. He got hit way too much today, Dorset did a bad job of protecting him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: There is ONE Beane draftee on the o-line and he was benched today for sucking. he wasn't benched - he had heat exhaustion and was out for the rest of the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I haven't seen Allen push a pass like the one to Mckenzie in a very long time. He forgot all about his foot work. They beat themselves. 1. Miss fg opportunities right before halftime 2. Dropped TD by Davis 3. Dropped pick 6 Malino 4. Missed fg from what 39 yards 5. Not running the ball at the 1 yardline then Allen turns back into rookie/ first year Allen and throws a push pass to a wide open Mckenzie Where was Diggs and Davis big time players have to step up in big time moments THEY BEAT THEMSELVES. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Bronxbomber21 said: I haven't seen Allen push a pass like the one to Mckenzie in a very long time. He forgot all about his foot work. They beat themselves. 1. Miss fg opportunities right before halftime 2. Dropped TD by Davis 3. Dropped pick 6 Malino 4. Missed fg from what 39 yards 5. Not running the ball at the 1 yardline then Allen turns back into rookie/ first year Allen and throws a push pass to a wide open Mckenzie Where was Diggs and Davis big time players have to step up in big time moments THEY BEAT THEMSELVES. Davis needs to secure that football in the end zone, needs to use his body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Watkins101 said: Spencer Brown went out for heat illness. Was nice of them to call it that but it was CLEARLY a benching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said: They were working on his hand after the play. He got hit way too much today, Dorset did a bad job of protecting him I am not sure you can put some of that line play on Dorsey. It is on Brandon Beane if anyone. Not saying Dorsey called a great game. But there are not many plays on the call card for no protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: If the C to QB exchange isn't working then put Bates at C. I don't think that's a good excuse. 2nd and goal and inches away so you put your QB 5 yards back. It just doesn't make any sense. You have to run 5 yards just to get to where you already were Agreed - I think it's ridiculous to say they were scared of executing the most fundamental play in football - the snap from center. Give me a break. If you really think there are better odds of scoring from a shotgun run than executing a snap from center I don't know what to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Patchwork OL didn't help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Sometimes coaches outsmart themselves. Lets hope Dorsey learns a lesson here. Wondering if that was due to snap issues earlier in the game on the goal line. Regardless, these are professional players, they need to be able to execute a sneak… Dolphins didn’t even have Raekwon Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: hindsight is 20/20 - that quarterback sneak idea failed in Tennessee last year He slipped man…I’d bet he doesn’t slip every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: That's called home field advantage. Disagree. Having fans is home field advantage. Weather elements perhaps. They designed the stadium on purpose to harm opposing team. Very unethical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just stupid. Not quite as stupid as the end of the first half, I still cant understand that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: I am not sure you can put some of that line play on Dorsey. It is on Brandon Beane if anyone. Not saying Dorsey called a great game. But there are not many plays on the call card for no protection. Overall I like the job he's doing, and injuries did kill us today. I only fault him for continuing to be in shotgun, in short yardage situations. So much Harder to defend under center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Just now, Mopreme said: Disagree. Having fans is home field advantage. Weather elements perhaps. They designed the stadium on purpose to harm opposing team. Very unethical. Well Stephen Ross isn't known to be the pinnacle of ethical integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Well Stephen Ross isn't known to be the pinnacle of ethical integrity. Very good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, whorlnut said: He slipped man…I’d bet he doesn’t slip every time. Exactly, plus in this situation its 2nd Down. If he slips, its still 3rd down on the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 minute ago, letsgoteam said: Exactly, plus in this situation its 2nd Down. If he slips, its still 3rd down on the one. Agree. They had two shots at it and didn’t use him on third or fourth downs. But they run him in blowout wins. Can’t make it up… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful Dodger Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, Bronxbomber21 said: I haven't seen Allen push a pass like the one to Mckenzie in a very long time. He forgot all about his foot work. They beat themselves. 1. Miss fg opportunities right before halftime 2. Dropped TD by Davis 3. Dropped pick 6 Malino 4. Missed fg from what 39 yards 5. Not running the ball at the 1 yardline then Allen turns back into rookie/ first year Allen and throws a push pass to a wide open Mckenzie Where was Diggs and Davis big time players have to step up in big time moments THEY BEAT THEMSELVES. They did beat themselves. The weather didn't help. It was like the Bataan Death March out there. But Miami is also a rapidly improving team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Yeah Dorsey and McD were ***** today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Can't argue with the OP. That was awful. Line allen up under center and have him fall forward at least twice. Our short yardage offense is awful. It feels like they need a hurculean effort on 3rd or 4th and short. Luckily they have received some of those efforts so far this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 This play is going burn me for awhile, and makes even more mad that I care this much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, pigpen65 said: Yeah Dorsey and McD were ***** today Were they? An Allen fumble, a dropped pass by Davis, a missed FG by Bass, a terrible play T the end of the first half, a dropped pick 6 by Milano, a terrible pass by Allen to an open McKenzie, dropped passes by Diggs and Davis on the last drive, ALL THE INJURIES, we lose by 2 on ghe road when outgaining the Fish by almost 300 yards... and you come up with that gem of a post? LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray51 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 If I’m not mistaken, we were down 4 starting Oline at that point in the game. I’m not shocked they tried an RPO, and then pass pass. injuries before the game short handed us, injuries during the game killed us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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