appoo Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I have never seen the Bills injury stuff to one side of the ball be this bad. Literally the entire starting secondary other than the Nickel, the two best DTs, all on a pitch count or not available. This is going to be like that Niners - Bills game back in the 90s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, appoo said: I have never seen the Bills injury stuff to one side of the ball be this bad. Literally the entire starting secondary other than the Nickel, the two best DTs, all on a pitch count or not available. This is going to be like that Niners - Bills game back in the 90s Don't you remember when we had like 4 RBs hurt and were starting the 5th RB a few years ago? I think it might have been Allen's rookie year I think the Bills will probably need to win a higher scoring game than initially thought of Hyde is out but I think the Bills are getting to 30 without much sweat and I don't think the Fins can get there against our D even with the injuries. Edited September 22, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Don't you remember when we had like 4 RBs hurt and were starting the 5th RB a few years ago? I think it might have been Allen's rookie year I think the Bills will probably need to win a higher scoring game than initially thought of Hyde is out but I think the Bills are getting to 30 without much sweat and I don't think the Fins can get there against our D even with the injuries. I mean do you remember when McKenzie got reps at CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I mean do you remember when McKenzie got reps at CB. Nope and I never want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, njbuff said: The Dolphins not having Armstead would be the biggest impact in this game. And the Dolphins D is, by far, the worst unit on the field. Thats probably the biggest reason why the Bills are heavy favorites on the road. Armstead has been solid in both pass and run blocking and that would be a big loss. The weak pass blocking link on that line is the center, Williams. If the Bills can get consistent pressure up the middle, it would make it more difficult for Tua to work the middle of the field in the intermediate range where Waddle has done most of his damage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Armstead has been solid in both pass and run blocking and that would be a big loss. The weak pass blocking link on that line is the center, Williams. If the Bills can get consistent pressure up the middle, it would make it more difficult for Tua to work the middle of the field in the intermediate range where Waddle has done most of his damage. You think it’s Williams ? Austin Jackson is pretty bad and he’s on IR and their replacement RT is even worse. Robert hunt is bad, eichenberg is bad. Idk why they slid Williams to center though he’s a pretty high quality guard Edited September 22, 2022 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: You think it’s Williams ? Austin Jackson is pretty bad and he’s on IR and their replacement RT is even worse. Robert hunt is bad, eichenberg is bad Yeah, Eichenberg has been pretty bad - maybe the worst over the first two games - although Hunt, Little, and Williams have all been pretty bad in obvious passing situations. Tua has relied on quick throws in the short to intermediate range. He has also done ok with the blitz, but he has really struggled when dealing with pressure from just four Dlineman. Edited September 22, 2022 by billsfan1959 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninja Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Yeah, Eichenberg has been pretty bad - maybe the worst over the first two games - although Hunt, Little, and Williams have all been pretty bad in obvious passing situations. Tua has relied on quick throws in the short to intermediate range. He has also done ok with the blitz, but he has really struggled when dealing with pressure from just four Dlineman. Our secondary is gonna be hurting. If we can generate pressure with 4 and drop enough into coverage to take away obvious first reads I think the Bills have a real shot. Gonna be tricky to stop Waddle and Reek all game though. I see us giving up one, maybe two long plays for maybe TDs off of screens and dump offs. I think the Bills still take it, but wouldn’t be surprised if the Fins scored 24-28 points given their speed and how injured our defense is. Edited September 22, 2022 by uninja 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: I mean do you remember when McKenzie got reps at CB. He wasnt bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldmanfan Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I believe this will be one of our finest hours. Even with the anticipated missing starters on D, the backups will rise up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I believe this will be one of our finest hours. Even with the anticipated missing starters on D, the backups will rise up. That's not a very "Old Man" statement. Shouldn't you be outside shouting at clouds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, uninja said: Our secondary is gonna be hurting. If we can generate pressure with 4 and drop enough into coverage to take away obvious first reads I think the Bills have a real shot. Gonna be tricky to stop Waddle and Reek all game though. I see us giving up one, maybe two long plays for maybe TDs off of screens and dump offs. I think the Bills still take it, but wouldn’t be surprised if the Fins scored 24-28 points given their speed and how injured our defense is. A real shot? I think the Bills are scoring 30+ no matter what and I don't think the Fins are no matter what. I think this is going to be a game where we end up being like "Damn...we are really really really good..." once it's all said and done. Edited September 22, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Edmunds and Rousseau height and go go gadget arms are going to be an issue for Tua Plus I'm loving the fact Edmunds 6'5 frame will be roaming the middle blocking little Tua's field of view too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, Big Turk said: A real shot? I think the Bills are scoring 30+ no matter what and I don't think the Fins are no matter what. I think this is going to be a game where we end up being like "Damn...we are really really really good..." once it's all said and done. I feel like this is going to be another game where people go "Miami is still Miami... lets see the Bills beat a real team... the real test is coming up next week" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 This game has already been decided. Proof 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) Just listened to the Sal/Bove podcast at the gym … Bove is straight up shook ones about the Dolphins, my goodness.. Im just figuring we’re without Phillips, Hyde and Jackson .. but if we get back Oliver and Settle, let’s go. I have confidence in the young guys and for as good as our DL has been, nobody has seen them with Von, Oliver & Rousseau out there for any meaningful time together. Edited September 22, 2022 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Looks like the line is up to Bills -5.5. Yeah I get that we have Allen and Diggs, but given the fact that literally our entire starting secondary is injured, I’m kinda surprised the line is still moving in favor of the Bills. Might be a shootout. Do it, Josh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: well, I hope you are right! But pretty clear to Me no Dane, no Tre, no Hyde, and maybe Poyer. I think we really need Poyer, just for communication purposes. This - so much has been reported about how important Hyde and Poyer are to the young guys to get them in the right spots - now we will have young backups in there as well 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Playoffs? said: Looks like the line is up to Bills -5.5. Yeah I get that we have Allen and Diggs, but given the fact that literally our entire starting secondary is injured, I’m kinda surprised the line is still moving in favor of the Bills. Might be a shootout. Do it, Josh! I don’t think Vegas can get anyone to bet against the Bills, as they so consistently cover the spread. after listening to many a game preview, I am worried about this game for the bills. They are the better team and will win the division, but could see them splitting with Miami given their current situation with the secondary. I remind myself that the rams lost to the niners twice last year and won the SB. Just be healthy at the right time and beat the chiefs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Von said (multiple times) he doesn't know when we are going to blitz? Edited September 22, 2022 by stevewin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 50 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: That's not a very "Old Man" statement. Shouldn't you be outside shouting at clouds? You see he isn’t an old man, he’s a fan of old men 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philo Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t think Vegas can get anyone to bet against the Bills, as they so consistently cover the spread. after listening to many a game preview, I am worried about this game for the bills. They are the better team and will win the division, but could see them splitting with Miami given their current situation with the secondary. I remind myself that the rams lost to the niners twice last year and won the SB. Just be healthy at the right time and beat the chiefs. I’m with you on that. In the Predict the Record thread I surmised that the Bills would drop a division game somewhere. Given the injuries, road game, new look Fins O, etc. this seems like the most likely game for that to come true. I still think the Bills are the infinitely better team and believe they will win, but won’t be completely shocked if they drop this game. Won’t matter in the long run - Bills own this division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I don’t think Vegas can get anyone to bet against the Bills, as they so consistently cover the spread. after listening to many a game preview, I am worried about this game for the bills. They are the better team and will win the division, but could see them splitting with Miami given their current situation with the secondary. I remind myself that the rams lost to the niners twice last year and won the SB. Just be healthy at the right time and beat the chiefs. Yep, completely agree. I’ve gotten comfortable that IF we lose, there are 14 more regular season games. Pretty sure the Chiefs started 1-3 (or something like that last year). We are absolutely the better team from top to bottom. I just seriously don’t think I can handle these Fins fans if they somehow pull out the W. This is their Super Bowl right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, Draconator said: This game has already been decided. Proof Thats a stellar list of QBs in their win column. 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, BananaB said: Thats a stellar list of QBs in their win column. 😂😂😂 Too bad Orton retired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 36 minutes ago, stevewin said: This - so much has been reported about how important Hyde and Poyer are to the young guys to get them in the right spots - now we will have young backups in there as well Have Poyer and Hyde been ruled out yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Have Poyer and Hyde been ruled out yet? No. Hyde is unlikely, Poyer is likely in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a K-Gun Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: I believe this will be one of our finest hours. Even with the anticipated missing starters on D, the backups will rise up. Great post…I can picture these words coming from Winston Churchill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Draconator said: This game has already been decided. Proof isn’t Josh like 7-1 against the 🐬 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: I believe this will be one of our finest hours. Even with the anticipated missing starters on D, the backups will rise up. If you are listening you can hear rising voices start singing... We are not throwing away our shot... We will... Rise up When you're living on your knees, you rise up Tell your brother that he's gotta rise up When are these backups gonna rise up? (Whoa, whoa) When is Ja'quan gonna rise up? (Whoa) When is Benford gonna rise up? (Whoa) When is Elam gonna rise up? Rise up, rise up! Rise up, rise up! Rise up, rise up! We are NOT THROWING AWAY OUR SHOT! Edited September 23, 2022 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: isn’t Josh like 7-1 against the 🐬 ? Only because of Charles Clay. Remember that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said: You see he isn’t an old man, he’s a fan of old men I screwed the pooch when I decided on that name, but I embrace my elder status! 46 minutes ago, Big Turk said: If you are listening you can hear rising voices start singing... We are not throwing away our shot... We will... Rise up When you're living on your knees, you rise up Tell your brother that he's gotta rise up When are these backups gonna rise up? (Whoa, whoa) When is Ja'quan gonna rise up? (Whoa) When is Benford gonna rise up? (Whoa) When is Elam gonna rise up? Rise up, rise up! Rise up, rise up! Rise up, rise up! We are NOT THROWING AWAY OUR SHOT! I was thinking more of Ed Harris in Apollo 13, but in honor of my daughters who both have been in tons of musicals I’ll take Hamilton! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 A woman in a dolphin 🐬 jersey at a Browns Steelers game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: A woman in a dolphin 🐬 jersey at a Browns Steelers game? America’s Team! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: A woman in a dolphin 🐬 jersey at a Browns Steelers game? Must have gotten lost on the way back from the Ravens game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Sounds like some guys are already resigning themselves to us losing. Yeah they have some scary receivers. Yeah our D is banged up in the secondary and a little on the line. We still have an offense too guys. We still have Josh Allen. We still have Diggs. Gabe might be back. We still have Knox I think. We still have some good slot guys. Stop being so scared of losing because Tua lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Sounds like some guys are already resigning themselves to us losing. Yeah they have some scary receivers. Yeah our D is banged up in the secondary and a little on the line. We still have an offense too guys. We still have Josh Allen. We still have Diggs. Gabe might be back. We still have Knox I think. We still have some good slot guys. Stop being so scared of losing because Tua lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: A woman in a dolphin 🐬 jersey at a Browns Steelers game? prob got confused about miami of Ohio 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Diggs on Hill. Oh wait, wrong Diggs errr, wait, maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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