Turk71 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 hours ago, billsfan89 said: For me Dane did well being effectively the number 2 corner and if this team has many glaring needs elsewhere I would roll with him as the CB2 and just draft depth or a cheaper veteran. But for a team with Super Bowl aspirations they will need to burn a pick early at CB or go with a more proven veteran to compete with Dane. The Bills aren't getting to the SB with Dane Jackson as their CB2 imo. Cornerbacks are far more important than having 4 guys play 1 tech DL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Patrick Duffy Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Turk71 said: The Bills aren't getting to the SB with Dane Jackson as their CB2 imo. Cornerbacks are far more important than having 4 guys play 1 tech DL I disagree, I think absolutely they could. I mean they were a ***** hair from getting there with him at CB1. No reason to believe he couldn't perform just as well or better at CB2 as he just showed at CB1 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I'm happy he is back overall. Not sure of the 5 DL signings while the CB position is in flux, OL may be an issue, and the WR room is weaker than it was at the end of the season. That is a lot of holes to fill in the draft to focus once again, on the DL. That said I have always been a fan of Phillips. Never understood the angst from the board. BUF picked him up off waivers. It's not like the Bills spent some high draft pick or a lot of FA money for him. Getting 9.5 sacks from a low cost waiver acquisition is a win. I am happy BUF did not pay him big money, but it's not exactly like Jefferson or Butler blew away his performance. Happy he is back to complete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 24 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: That said I have always been a fan of Phillips. Never understood the angst from the board. BUF picked him up off waivers. It's not like the Bills spent some high draft pick or a lot of FA money for him. Getting 9.5 sacks from a low cost waiver acquisition is a win. Dude always seemed to bring good energy to the field - glad he's back as well! 👍 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I disagree, I think absolutely they could. I mean they were a ***** hair from getting there with him at CB1. No reason to believe he couldn't perform just as well or better at CB2 as he just showed at CB1 What game were you watching? Mahomes completed 75% of his passes for 378 yards and a 124 QB rating. 30 first downs and a 10 minute advantage in time of possession, 550 yards and 42 points. Josh Allen was the only reason they got so close and it most certainly had nothing to do with Dane Jackson's level of play. It would be stupid for the Bills to think that is good enough for CB2 imo. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Wow, what an offseason. ***** love this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Dude gave a pretty interesting and profound interview. Great listen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 46 minutes ago, Turk71 said: The Bills aren't getting to the SB with Dane Jackson as their CB2 imo. Cornerbacks are far more important than having 4 guys play 1 tech DL When it’s all done he won’t be cb 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I disagree, I think absolutely they could. I mean they were a ***** hair from getting there with him at CB1. No reason to believe he couldn't perform just as well or better at CB2 as he just showed at CB1 He didn't play cb1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Turk71 said: What game were you watching? Mahomes completed 75% of his passes for 378 yards and a 124 QB rating. 30 first downs and a 10 minute advantage in time of possession, 550 yards and 42 points. Josh Allen was the only reason they got so close and it most certainly had nothing to do with Dane Jackson's level of play. It would be stupid for the Bills to think that is good enough for CB2 imo. Our lack of coverage really showed up in that game it would have also helped if we could grind clock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Agree...Dane really proved himself... I'm well aware, why I said I think he may take over Levi's CB2 spot imo I absolutely believe that Dane proved himself, and is MORE than deserving of the # 2 CB spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Turk71 said: What game were you watching? Mahomes completed 75% of his passes for 378 yards and a 124 QB rating. 30 first downs and a 10 minute advantage in time of possession, 550 yards and 42 points. Josh Allen was the only reason they got so close and it most certainly had nothing to do with Dane Jackson's level of play. It would be stupid for the Bills to think that is good enough for CB2 imo. Dude, first of all you're implying the stats you listed as if 378yds etc was all done on Dane which could not be more silly. Secondly, I CLEARLY was talking about every game since Thanks Giving when he came in for Tre. Lastly, every CB playing against Mahomes has a hard time, 19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He didn't play cb1... Tre was CB1 and he took his spot right.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Phillips was fun to watch and had some nice cleanup work Needed and deserve to get paid Like Lawson Glad to have them both competing to be the best and getting us a SB win ! Go Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Dude, first of all you're implying the stats you listed as if 378yds etc was all done on Dane which could not be more silly. Secondly, I CLEARLY was talking about every game since Thanks Giving when he came in for Tre. Lastly, every CB playing against Mahomes has a hard time, Tre was CB1 and he took his spot right.... That was Levi Wallace who took the spot Dane took Levi's original spot Edited March 18, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: That was Levi Wallace who took the spot Dane took Levi's original spot I didn't know Wallace switched sides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Dane played better down the stretch than Wallace and there’s a great chance we sign a veteran cb anyway and pick one at 25 or latest at 57. Btw, last time we picked a cb in the 1st round it was Trey and he was picked a couple of picks later than 25…… in Beane we trust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: That was Levi Wallace who took the spot Dane took Levi's original spot Ok, well my mistake...but still my point stands, he did very well at CB2 those games in Tre's absence...so no reason to think it will be any different at CB2 next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I didn't know Wallace switched sides? Not that there's anything wrong with that. 😉 Edited March 18, 2022 by The Wiz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: I didn't know Wallace switched sides? X wrs line up on both sides of the field now Tre had shadowed receivers over the years across the field ... Dane Jackson stayed on one side ... I wouldn't say that's replacing a number 1 ... Tre was top 10 shadowing Him and Levi played LCB RCB , nobody shadowed WRs He played a starting cb role , not a number 1 role And yes I think Dane can be good .. especially since he's been allowed to develop Edited March 18, 2022 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Love having Jordan and Shaq back. Their production was huge for us in ‘19 and I loved the swagger they brought to the defense. Hopefully we get more of that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 😂 1 23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Turk71 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Dude, first of all you're implying the stats you listed as if 378yds etc was all done on Dane which could not be more silly. Secondly, I CLEARLY was talking about every game since Thanks Giving when he came in for Tre. Lastly, every CB playing against Mahomes has a hard time, I didn't imply anything about those stats, they are what they are. The Bills defense couldn't stop them. Mahomes' offense scored their 2nd most points all season in that game so the 'he does that to everybody' does not apply either. It's not all on Jackson and he filled in okay I guess, he just wasn't as good as they're gonna need at cb2. Jackson was rated 82nd of 117 qualifying cbs on PFF for his full seasons work. Even if you think PFF is a joke look at their top 10 and bottom 10 and tell me they're not really good and really bad. Myself, I'm hoping the Bills have someone much better than Dane Jackson at CB2 next season. Jackson is depth and still developing imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Warcodered said: Just give us the trophy already 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, Turk71 said: I didn't imply anything about those stats, they are what they are. The Bills defense couldn't stop them. Mahomes' offense scored their 2nd most points all season in that game so the 'he does that to everybody' does not apply either. It's not all on Jackson and he filled in okay I guess, he just wasn't as good as they're gonna need at cb2. Jackson was rated 82nd of 117 qualifying cbs on PFF for his full seasons work. Even if you think PFF is a joke look at their top 10 and bottom 10 and tell me they're not really good and really bad. Myself, I'm hoping the Bills have someone much better than Dane Jackson at CB2 next season. Jackson is depth and still developing imo. You keep talking about the one KC game which was a game that was all high octane offense that neither Bills or KC's defense could not stop each other. If that's how you rate a player going by 1 game and not knowing Dane's individual stats so you just use the final stats of KC's offense as a whole then I can't take you serious. There were 7 other games he did pretty well in, but you're not acknowledging those for some reason.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie's Bills Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I don't think anyone should be comfortable having Dane Jackson as a starter entering next season. The two times the team faced above average passing offenses the second half of the season (after Tre went down) they were torched. Hopefully a round 1/2 rookie and a vet will be brought in most likely in to supplement the position until Tre is back. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mikie's Bills said: I don't think anyone should be comfortable having Dane Jackson as a starter entering next season. The two times the team faced above average passing offenses the second half of the season (after Tre went down) they were torched. Hopefully a round 1/2 rookie and a vet will be brought in most likely in to supplement the position until Tre is back. CB giving me cold sweats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Virgil said: It's going to be great not drafting a DT this year. We will be able to run some VERY heavy sets. Please NE and Indy, run the ball No Indy this year. Tennessee though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Think it's pretty awesome that he said to McDermott he's watched every Bills game since he's left Buffalo. Hope he can get back to that disruptive form. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Turk71 said: I didn't imply anything about those stats, they are what they are. The Bills defense couldn't stop them. Mahomes' offense scored their 2nd most points all season in that game so the 'he does that to everybody' does not apply either. It's not all on Jackson and he filled in okay I guess, he just wasn't as good as they're gonna need at cb2. Jackson was rated 82nd of 117 qualifying cbs on PFF for his full seasons work. Even if you think PFF is a joke look at their top 10 and bottom 10 and tell me they're not really good and really bad. Myself, I'm hoping the Bills have someone much better than Dane Jackson at CB2 next season. Jackson is depth and still developing imo. First, 42 points wasn't exactly "their 2nd most points all season." It was in a 3-way tie for second-most. They scored that much four times. More, they scored 42 points against us because our offense was good enough to match them in regular time and force overtime and the Chiefs got an extra drive in. When Mahomes was playing well last year, very few teams were able to stop them. Our offense was just as awesome when playing well. But KC was terrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billschinatown Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 13 hours ago, Warcodered said: I don’t know if I’m just crazy-but that way he talks and sounds is almost exactly like Richie incognito. It’s like the same cadence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFanForever19 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Geesh, Thad Brown doesn't think much of him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Geesh, Thad Brown doesn't think much of him.... I agree with Brown regarding Phillips. If I am wrong, I'll be happy about it. What I remember of Philips is lots of show, some big plays and then failing to maintain his gap or do his job on a consistent basis. I was happy he went to Arizona, feeling we added by subtracting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 14 hours ago, TheProcess said: Love having Jordan and Shaq back. Their production was huge for us in ‘19 and I loved the swagger they brought to the defense. Hopefully we get more of that. Shaq still has work to do to make the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, NewEra said: Shaq still has work to do to make the team. They both do. Depending on what they do the rest of FA and the draft, cutting Star gets them one step closer to the final 53. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheProcess said: They both do. Depending on what they do the rest of FA and the draft, cutting Star gets them one step closer to the final 53. For sure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Geesh, Thad Brown doesn't think much of him.... To be fair, I wouldn't exactly put Thad Brown in the upper echelon of sport reporters/analysts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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