Kareem Hunt: Cut candidate. Possible 2022 Bill?

[Cheektowaga Chad]

Weren't the bills rumored to be interested in hunt when he was a free agent after that incident?

 

As for allen Robinson, this is the guy I think could sign here on a cheaper contract. I think he is really tired of having poor QB play plus if he came here lit it up his value would sky rocket 

[ganesh]

2 hours ago, Motor26 said:

I don’t endorse this move, because violence against woman is despicable in any act. But the Bills not taking chances on anyone with character red flags kind of bothers me. A kid fails a drug test for weed in college? Who cares, it’s weed. A dude gets in a bar fight, haven’t we all? They pigeon hole themselves out of a lot of good players by completely crossing certain players off their list.

The Bills did take a gamble with Josh.  Remember the leaking of his tweets the night before the draft.   The Bills had a long call with Josh on draft day morning to clear it with him and then drafted him 7th.  

[Utah John]

Hunt was such a bad person even KC got rid of him.  How does he fit into the process?

Edited February 26, 2022 by Utah John

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Whatever anyone’s own opinions, does anyone genuinely believe the Bills would actually sign him, based on the team’s focus on character?  There is a zero percent chance. 
 

The Bills retained, played and have now re-signed Dodson with a domestic violence on his rap sheet. Never say never.

[Jpsredemption]

The one high priced WR I don’t want at all is Robinson. I want speed and separation. I think he’s shown a poor attitude and he’s aging. Speed speed and more speed. 

[Solomon Grundy]

Why bring in a guy that's gonna cost you the money you need to get that game changing defensive player when you can draft a "Jamaal Charles" type RB in Breece Hall? Ladainian Tomlinson says that's who Hall reminds him of when watching tape. 

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Weren't the bills rumored to be interested in hunt when he was a free agent after that incident?

 

As for allen Robinson, this is the guy I think could sign here on a cheaper contract. I think he is really tired of having poor QB play plus if he came here lit it up his value would sky rocket 

 

They couldn't decide between Antonio Brown and Hunt...

[GreggTX]

If a guy has committed a crime and pays his debt to society, I'd give him another chance. That doesn't mean it can't happen again, but all too often, we make it so hard on them that recovery becomes much more difficult. Hunt is far better than most people realize. That said, I don't know him personally and I'd want to talk to people in Cleveland about any character concerns before making such a move. If he's come around, I'd say OK, but any more woman beating and you are finished. No guaranteed money. No nothing. There's the door.

[Motor26]

37 minutes ago, ganesh said:

The Bills did take a gamble with Josh.  Remember the leaking of his tweets the night before the draft.   The Bills had a long call with Josh on draft day morning to clear it with him and then drafted him 7th.  

Twitter isn’t a real place, so there’s that. But he was like 18 or 19, quoting what appeared to be rap lyrics or quotations. I don’t think that’s as much of an issue as assaulting a woman.

[Mister Defense]

I wanted the Bills to get him a few years ago.

 

Hunt and Singletary would give the Bills an excellent backfield. The Bills would take the next step in creating a dynamic running game.

 

To me this is a no brainer if the price is right.

 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

27 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

The Bills retained, played and have now re-signed Dodson with a domestic violence on his rap sheet. Never say never.

So there you go. The Bills aren't completely opposed to the idea of obtaining a player with some issues. Listen I'm not advocating McB to go out and sign a bunch of serial killers, but if the player has shown remorse and made the effort to change like Hunt, then Hell yeah. Guys like AB are probably beyond help.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Just now, LABILLBACKER said:

So there you go. The Bills aren't completely opposed to the idea of obtaining a player with some issues. Listen I'm not advocating McB to go out and sign a bunch of serial killers, but if the player has shown remorse and made the effort to change like Hunt, then Hell yeah. Guys like AB are probably beyond help.

 

36 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

The Bills retained, played and have now re-signed Dodson with a domestic violence on his rap sheet. Never say never.

The Bills retained Dodson after doing an investigation and finding that the allegations were not credible. 
 

If they discovered he committed DV, he would have been cut. 

[LABILLBACKER]

30 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Why bring in a guy that's gonna cost you the money you need to get that game changing defensive player when you can draft a "Jamaal Charles" type RB in Breece Hall? Ladainian Tomlinson says that's who Hall reminds him of when watching tape. 

Do also love Breece Hall.  Hey, we have choices. 

6 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

 

The Bills retained Dodson after doing an investigation and finding that the allegations were not credible. 
 

If they discovered he committed DV, he would have been cut. 

Even the process has to have a purgatory? Players can change and be productive. Maybe not AB, at this point he's kinda a lost cause. 

[RaoulDuke79]

3 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I'm tired of waiting around for the "All Choir Boy" team to ever win one. If it takes a couple gangsta's, so be it.

Judging by the reactions to your post, it would appear the consensus is we're ok with never winning a superbowl as long as the team are pillars of the community. 

[Alphadawg7]

3 hours ago, filthymcnasty08 said:

Heard this one today on a podcast:  Projected Hunt to the Bills

 

No guaranteed $ from the Browns, probable cut candidate.  D'ernest Johnson taking his spot. $5M estimated cost.

 

Great fit for this offense.  Not a big number for a guy that can start/handle 3 downs if need be.  Has shown ability to produce big in a 2 back timeshare as well.

 

We know what he can do on-field.  We know off-field was ugly a few years ago.  Has kept himself out of any further issues in Cle.  

 

Also projected Allen Robinson to Buffalo.  (God, and your salary cap team, are you listening?)

 

I know, typical off-season sh-t but, ARob dreams aside, the Hunt possibility is a very interesting one.

 

If I hold this one up against:

 

Fournette

Patterson

Chase Edmonds

M Gordon

R Penny

M Mack

James White

 

As interesting as Penny would be, I'd take Hunt if we could afford him.  Thoughts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hunt is a heck of a lot more than a timeshare RB.  

 

This dude would be a legit potential top 5 RB as a starter.  If we can get him here it would be huge.  His off field stuff was way blown out of proportion too and he has been a model citizen since anyway.

 

I am all for bringing Hunt here, in fact he would be my number 1 target if he was someone we could truly land.  He is better than every RB on that list in your post, and exceptionally better than most of them.  

[Buffalo Barbarian]

3 hours ago, filthymcnasty08 said:

Heard this one today on a podcast:  Projected Hunt to the Bills

 

No guaranteed $ from the Browns, probable cut candidate.  D'ernest Johnson taking his spot. $5M estimated cost.

 

Great fit for this offense.  Not a big number for a guy that can start/handle 3 downs if need be.  Has shown ability to produce big in a 2 back timeshare as well.

 

We know what he can do on-field.  We know off-field was ugly a few years ago.  Has kept himself out of any further issues in Cle.  

 

Also projected Allen Robinson to Buffalo.  (God, and your salary cap team, are you listening?)

 

I know, typical off-season sh-t but, ARob dreams aside, the Hunt possibility is a very interesting one.

 

If I hold this one up against:

 

Fournette

Patterson

Chase Edmonds

M Gordon

R Penny

M Mack

James White

 

As interesting as Penny would be, I'd take Hunt if we could afford him.  Thoughts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

If coach thinks his troubles are behind him then id take hunt, was a huge fan of Robinson not sure if hes great anymore but i wouldn't hate it.

 

Also like patter and wouldn't mind Braxton Berrios.

 

 

[DCofNC]

Talented, the incident we saw was over blown for sure, but the fact it happens makes me question what we haven’t see.  I would take a pass.  I don’t think he’s honestly a major difference maker, therefore, not worth it to me.

[Tanoros]

3 hours ago, Rigotz said:

 

This is the guy you want? 

https://www.tmz.com/videos/0-exjrtvg5/

 

"Never charged with a crime" ... come on. If you're fine with compromising on character, at least admit it.

 

Would you still be a fan of the Bills if they did compromise on character? Or is character your reason for being a Bills fan? 
 

I think most of us would still be fans even if the Bills took poor character players, especially if it was one here or there. 
 

I personally like Hunt as a player and, until know, hadn’t considered him as option. I know Beane and McDermott value character highly, and I’d trust if they pulled the trigger it would be because they think he is a better person. People can change, it’s a thing. 
 

However, I would still be a fan of the Bills even if his character remained poor and the Bills picked him up anyway. 

[Bill from NYC]

13 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

  His off field stuff was way blown out of proportion too and he has been a model citizen since anyway.

 

You make a great point, especially if you think that it is OK for the strongest men on earth to beat up women, You know what I mean "Alpha?" 

 

Unreal.  

 

 

 

 

[stinky finger]

4 hours ago, Airbornetrooper said:

The same Kareem Hunt that brutalizes women? No thanks, I’ll pass. 

 
Still?

[Bill from NYC]

1 minute ago, Tanoros said:

 

I personally like Hunt as a player and, until know, hadn’t considered him as option. I know Beane and McDermott value character highly, and I’d trust if they pulled the trigger it would be because they think he is a better person. People can change, it’s a thing. 
 

Did you ever beat up a woman and then "change?" 

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said:

You make a great point, especially if you think that it is OK for the strongest men on earth to beat up women, You know what I mean "Alpha?" 

 

Unreal.  

 

 

 

 

 

Too bad thats not remotely what happened...I mean not even a tiny bit close...but you keep sticking to that over exaggerated version.  If you are gonna call someone out, you better know the facts, otherwise maybe just don't say anything at all.  I am very anti violence against women, so don't try and take my character there ok bud.  Thanks.

Edited February 26, 2022 by Alphadawg7

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, Airbornetrooper said:

The same Kareem Hunt that brutalizes women? No thanks, I’ll pass. 

Might drive his market price down.  Do it Beane.

[Bill from NYC]

1 hour ago, ganesh said:

The Bills did take a gamble with Josh.  Remember the leaking of his tweets the night before the draft.   The Bills had a long call with Josh on draft day morning to clear it with him and then drafted him 7th.  

Are you comparing stupid ass tweets from a 17 year old to a genetic mutant beating the crap out of a woman? Is this where we are?

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

36 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

 

Even the process has to have a purgatory? Players can change and be productive. Maybe not AB, at this point he's kinda a lost cause. 

my sense from the Bills is that they

might take on a guy with a checkered past so long as that person is fully reformed, and the guy’s priors were not super serious. 
 

Hunt‘s prior incident is bad. They probably view it as disqualifying.

[Bill from NYC]

3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Too bad thats not remotely what happened...I mean not even a tiny bit close...but you keep sticking to that over exaggerated version.  If you are gonna call someone out, you better know the facts, otherwise maybe just don't say anything at all.  I am very anti violence against women, so don't try and take my character there ok bud.  Thanks.

Yeah, I can tell. Did you see the video "Bud?"

Edited February 26, 2022 by Bill from NYC

[BuffaloBillyG]

40 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

 

The Bills retained Dodson after doing an investigation and finding that the allegations were not credible. 
 

If they discovered he committed DV, he would have been cut. 

Can you link me somewhere that claims they were not credible? Not doubting it, just curious if this is fact or opinion stated as factual?

 

As for they bolded part THAT is pure conjecture. 

[Paul Costa]

His video looks pretty bad. He lost his mind that night that’s for sure. I’m personally not sure of all the details. It was a few years ago right? If he’s kept his nose clean since that incident and One Bills Drive is comfortable bringing him in we should be comfortable with him joining the team. From a talent aspect he’d be a big get for our Offense. To me he’s a great fit. 

[Alphadawg7]

1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yeah, I can tell. Did you see the video "Bud?"

 

Yeah, a probably a lot more times than you.  

 

In the meantime, lets agree to disagree because I can already see this isn't going anywhere productive.  

[LABILLBACKER]

4 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

my sense from the Bills is that they

might take on a guy with a checkered past so long as that person is fully reformed, and the guy’s priors were not super serious. 
 

Hunt‘s prior incident is bad. They probably view it as disqualifying.

This very well might be the case. I'm sure they'll do their due diligence. And if he's not a target we can draft Hall on a 5 yr rookie deal. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

Can you link me somewhere that claims they were not credible? Not doubting it, just curious if this is fact or opinion stated as factual?

 

As for they bolded part THAT is pure conjecture. 

here is an article. 
 

Bills general manager Brandon Beane says a team investigation found no credible evidence of Dodson committing an act of domestic violence. He adds the team's pre-draft evaluation of Dodson showed no history of him getting into legal trouble.

 

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/40138693
 

My conjecture of him being cut is pretty obvious. The Bills were not going to keep an undrafted rookie free agent if they discovered he beat up his girlfriend. You can call that Conjecture, but guys on the bubble aren’t really given the benefit of the doubt like your first rounders, etc. 

[Putin]

2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Whatever anyone’s own opinions, does anyone genuinely believe the Bills would actually sign him, based on the team’s focus on character?  There is a zero percent chance. 
 

So your saying there is a chance ??

[Bill from NYC]

3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Yeah, a probably a lot more times than you.  

 

In the meantime, lets agree to disagree because I can already see this isn't going anywhere productive.  

Fair enough.

[Utah John]

Compared to Hunt, Singletary is younger/cheaper/a better person/just as good a runner.  Why are we having this discussion?

[StHustle]

2 hours ago, Mickey said:

However, given that our most famous player from an historical standpoint is a notorious double murderer who practically beheaded his ex-wife, maybe we aren't the best franchise in the league to gamble when it comes to violence against women. 

Never found guilty of the crime.

[Paul Costa]

10 minutes ago, Utah John said:

Compared to Hunt, Singletary is younger/cheaper/a better person/just as good a runner.  Why are we having this discussion?

Hunt is a better Running Back than Devin. Together they would be a great 1-2 punch. ( pun intended ). Agree Singletary is younger & cheaper. I don’t know either of them personally so I don’t know which one is the better person. 🤷‍♂️

[RyanC883]

I’d rather spend FA money on Edge.  Find RB in draft.  There are no studs in FA at RB, IMO.   Would rather chase Godwin at WR if not edge in fA

38 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Did you ever beat up a woman and then "change?" 

 

people can change.  Anger issues that create domestic abusers are treatable psychological conditions.  That DOES NOT excuse the abuse, but the idea ppl are incapable of change is not true

[Sierra Foothills]

5 hours ago, filthymcnasty08 said:

Fournette

Patterson

Chase Edmonds

M Gordon

R Penny

M Mack

James White

 

As interesting as Penny would be, I'd take Hunt if we could afford him.  Thoughts?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't forget D'Onta Foreman. He would a really nice piece, probably inexpensive and we could use him like Green Bay uses A.J. Dillon.

 

1 hour ago, RaoulDuke79 said:

Judging by the reactions to your post, it would appear the consensus is we're ok with never winning a superbowl as long as the team are pillars of the community. 

 

Your oversimplification ignores the full range of reasons why people might be against adding Kareem Hunt. I'm sure there are many here like me who believe that this team is good enough to win a Super Bowl as is and doesn't have to compromise character to attain their goals. There are also those who feel this team can improve by adding excellent and law-abiding players.

 

Having gangsters and thugs on the team is not and never has been a prerequisite to winning championships. Plenty of championships have been won by teams with "pillars of the community" on the roster.

Edited February 26, 2022 by Sierra Foothills

[EasternOHBillsFan]

5 hours ago, mannc said:

Never charged with a crime...

 

SO WHAT??? We all saw the video.

 

Such abysmal standards you set as a human being.

[purple haze]

3 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Whatever anyone’s own opinions, does anyone genuinely believe the Bills would actually sign him, based on the team’s focus on character?  There is a zero percent chance. 
 

If they thought Hunt would help them win they sure would.  Hunt’s incident was years ago.  He hasn’t been in trouble since.  People make mistakes.  He’s done well with his second chance.

 

That said, Bills need a speed element. Hunt doesn’t fit that profile.