What position do you consider biggest need for Bills going into this offseason?

[Marv's Neighbor]

Defensive Coordinator.

[whorlnut]

21 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

I disagree.  White is a top 5 or 10 Cb.  Those guys are very expensive in FA and are not available outside of the top 40 picks in the draft.  Need another corner with elite traits. Not a zone corner.  We got plenty of zone guys.  Need some else to matchup up with KC and Cincy.  

And I disagree with this thought. We don’t “need” another top 10 CB outside of Tre. We need a competent one and we may already have that in either Levi or Dane. How many teams in the league have one corner with elite traits, let alone two?

[HappyDays]

Lack of effective pass rush was the single biggest reason we couldn't stop the Chiefs. We need a finisher at DE.

[NewEra]

51 minutes ago, 27yanks said:

A thumping MLB to help with the run defense, move Edmunds outside and show him clips of Buktus thumping folks!!!!

So when we run nickel 90% of the game, which is what we do, edmunds is to just sit on the sideline making 13M?

Just now, HappyDays said:

Lack of effective pass rush was the single biggest reason we couldn't stop the Chiefs. We need a finisher at DE.

We pressured him the majority of the game with 4.  Mahomes is a wizard at feeling the rush and escaping it.  
 

who do you want?  A TJ Watt level pass rusher?  How many sacks does TJ watt have in his career vs Mahomes?  I’ll wait.  

[Mat68]

1 minute ago, whorlnut said:

And I disagree with this thought. We don’t “need” another top 10 CB outside of Tre. We need a competent one and we may already have that in either Levi or Dane. How many teams in the league have one corner with elite traits, let alone two?

White was drafted where we pick are picking.  What if White never gets back to his elite level?  Having undrafted FAs and day 3 corners are not slowing the elite offense.  I feel like when you are looking at premier positions cb is top 5.  You can find a very good one back half of rd 1.  Every other position that is questionable can be upgraded day 2 and 3.  Play maker or cb can really only be upgraded day 1.  

[frostbitmic]

CB - Even if Tre' is ready for opening day, we need an upgrade at #2

OL - Re-signing Bates should be a top priority, he played a better LG than anyone we've played there the past few years. He also considers himself a Center so if Morse retires we might already have his replacement. That said, we also need to add an IOL early in the draft.

WR - I think McKittrick will sign with Miami where he has a BBQ business and I think Beasley will want to go someplace where the fans don't boo him 🙄. We could use a speedster to play the slot and run under JA17's 60 yard passes (Skyy Moore in the 2nd)

DT - Re-sign Horrible Harry, wave g'bye to Star and draft a huge run stuffing DT

TE - If Knox gets injured does anybody think Sweeney can come in and produce ? ... I think competition at TE2 is necessary.

[Sandhill Mike]

38 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Having a 10% better LB than Edmunds changes what vs KC?  Fred Warner or Darius Leonard doesnt change that outcome.  I think Edmunds style is that of a finesse pass defender.  He is not the enforcer but the NFL wants to remove that style of play.  For what Mcdermott wants out of his defense Edmunds is the guy he wants. 

 

Maybe we defend Tampa better in that first half, don't get spanked by the Colts, lose to the Jags, or let the Pats control game 1 by running at will.  I'm not just thinking about Kansas City.

 

I've seen opposing coaches (New England, San Diego) game plan to take advantage of Edmunds and do it well.

 

I'm all for more help in the secondary, but I think we need an impact linebacker... not just a guy with great wingspan.

 

Picking late in round 1, value at CB is usually there.  McBeane has impressed me with their eye for talent at corner and I do feel that they will once again make the team better.

 

I also firmly understand that Josh Allen is our MVP... we have to keep him protected and healthy, more offensive linemen are also welcome by this fan.

 

We can't always get what we want... but hopefully we get what we need. 

 

Whatever that turns out to be, I know we're going to be knocking on the door again with #17.  Nice!

[JMF2006]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

We NEED great?  How many teams have two GREAT corners?  We have Tre, who is great.  We have one of the best slot corners in the league.  Many would consider him a great slot corner.  We have 2 all pro safeties……now we need another great corner…..in a McD system?   If our biggest need is having a great #2 corner to go along with our other 4 great starting DBs, than we don’t have much to worry about. 

 

Tyreek Hill made 39 look like he was standing still......just saying

[HappyDays]

14 minutes ago, NewEra said:

We pressured him the majority of the game with 4.  Mahomes is a wizard at feeling the rush and escaping it.  

 

Joe Buscaglia gave all of the d-linemen low marks except for Oliver and Hughes. Addison and Obada and Rousseau and Basham were non-factors in that game. It's impossible to stop Mahomes without getting pressure and finishing while only rushing 4 and we simply don't have the horses needed to do that.

 

14 minutes ago, NewEra said:

who do you want?  A TJ Watt level pass rusher?  How many sacks does TJ watt have in his career vs Mahomes?  I’ll wait.  

 

This is a bad example to make your point. The Steelers defense stopped the Chiefs offense on 5 consecutive drives to start their playoff game including one where Watt scored a fumble recovery TD. Give me 5 stops against the Chiefs all game long and I'll give you a Bills Super Bowl appearance.

Edited January 29, 2022 by HappyDays

[4BillsintheBurgh]

After last year Beane said we need more pass rush. So he went out and drafted a de that hadn't played in a year and a guy that didn't look like he was quick enough to make a difference right away. We got some pressure on Mahomes but didn't get enough. That's really on Beane. I think DL needs addressed via FA with some type of short term impact guy, either outside (preferable) and/or inside.

 

As has been said about every great qb, you have to be able to get him on the ground rushing 4 in order to beat him. We were not able to get patpat on the ground last week when we needed to.

[NoName]

I am surprised to hear no one mention TE.  Remember those games Dawson Knox was injured?  Tommy Sweeney was invisible and Gilliam isn't an option.  Having another good TE gives us more flexbility to benefit our run game and allows us to do more 2 TE formations. 

 

I think we need an upgrade at RB.  Singletary is good but how would this offense look with a very good RB?

 

The only position I would want to upgrade on the OL would be center and that's a maybe for me.  It depends on how we are going to establish the run.  If we are going to continue to get the OL guys on the move then I think we can make it work with Morse.

 

My picks

Go after C Ben Jones from the Titans in free agency

1st round CB Kaiir Elam Florida (great compliment to Tre....has size, toughness)

2nd round TE Jaylen Wedeymeyer Texas A&M (could end up being better than Knox is big and can move)

3rd round Kyren Williams RB Notre Dame (looks as good if not better than singletary with a little more power and speed)

4th round or later, I'd like to see them get someone to play the 1 technique

[Bruce Smith]

A good man to man press CB and some road grading OL.  Then start getting some DL and LB to stop the run.  f you are going play in Buffalo and win you have to run it and you have to stop the run in Nov and Dec.  

[Mat68]

6 minutes ago, Sandhill Mike said:

 

Maybe we defend Tampa better in that first half, don't get spanked by the Colts, lose to the Jags, or let the Pats control game 1 by running at will.  I'm not just thinking about Kansas City.

 

I've seen opposing coaches (New England, San Diego) game plan to take advantage of Edmunds and do it well.

 

I'm all for more help in the secondary, but I think we need an impact linebacker... not just a guy with great wingspan.

 

Picking late in round 1, value at CB is usually there.  McBeane has impressed me with their eye for talent at corner and I do feel that they will once again make the team better.

 

I also firmly understand that Josh Allen is our MVP... we have to keep him protected and healthy, more offensive linemen are also welcome by this fan.

 

We can't always get what we want... but hopefully we get what we need. 

 

Whatever that turns out to be, I know we're going to be knocking on the door again with #17.  Nice!

Agreed.  Allen is the way.  LG can be had day 2 who probably starts day 1 and is ready to roll.  Day 3 with a bit of luck can get the same thing.  I find it hard to believe Beane draft a lineman rd 1 who isnt a tackle or center.  Is Morse retiring?  He had a hell of a year and was healthy.  Im assuming he is back.  Outside of Morse retiring I dont think Beane values Lg that much to draft a tackle rd 1 and play him at guard.  

[ALLEN1QB]

Coach 

[4BillsintheBurgh]

17 minutes ago, NewEra said:

So when we run nickel 90% of the game, which is what we do, edmunds is to just sit on the sideline making 13M?

We pressured him the majority of the game with 4.  Mahomes is a wizard at feeling the rush and escaping it.  
 

who do you want?  A TJ Watt level pass rusher?  How many sacks does TJ watt have in his career vs Mahomes?  I’ll wait.  

So you think the defensive mvp would have no effect for the defense? Even someone like von Miller or Ingram could replace guys on the roster and we would be better.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

I think speed at #2 CB. I love Levi, appreciate what he’s accomplished, and want him to return to the team for sure, but we have 1 great outside CB and one good outside CB. If we want to go toe-to-to with KC every year, we need more speed. 
 

I’m not sure if Ryan Bates did enough to secure an OG spot, an upgrade at LG may be needed also. 
 

Edmunds needs to keep expanding his knowledge and reaction skills, I kind of hope we move him to a more DE/OLB role were we can take advantage of his size, aggressiveness, and incredible speed/burst. Let him focus on rushing passers and kicking assers.

Edited January 29, 2022 by TheyCallMeAndy

[Codyny13]

A legit pass rusher that puts fear in the opposition. 

[Freddie's Dead]

Coach.

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

Athletic interior o-lineman

CB #2 (if we don't resign wallace)

Speed WR 

Big disruptive DT

 

 

[whorlnut]

16 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Really hope McBeane see it this way… they love their defense though. Wouldn’t be shocked in the slightest if their first rounder is a CB as they continue the trend of defense in the first round.

They are a defensive oriented regime….. I’d love to see them take a KC approach and continue to stack the offense but I think it’s wishful thinking. The goal should be stack the offensive line and more playmakers for Allen. My guess is they continue to try and fix their defense like they try offseason after offseason…. Its similar to them not wanting to get into a shoot out with the Chiefs…. But I question why the ***** not when you have Josh Allen and our offense? 

EXACTLY!!!!

[whorlnut]

12 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

That thinking will continue to hold the team back…. Between the 8-9 man defensive line rotation and their constant emphasis on defense in general, they are doing Allen and the offense a clear disservice. It should be the priority this offseason. 

Couldn’t agree more. They have spent, spent, spent on defense. Last year’s first and second round picks. The year before they took a DE. Yes, we got Diggs, but it was almost like a consolation piece so fans wouldn’t complain about the offense. It’s like taking Allen in the first in 2018…then followed it up with 3 straight defensive picks. 
 

We are SOOO close…but I’m concerned Beane and McD think the ticket is to add more defense instead of looking at the coaching as the prime reason we lost last Sunday. We had the personnel, but the coaches failed the team. 
 

It’s hard to complain about an offense that puts up numbers. My main thing is you need to plan ahead. Morse is on his last legs, Beasley is in his last year, Sanders and McKenzie are likely gone. Don’t forget that we have a slow RB and basically need upgrades at both OGs.

 

I hate that all the talk is about adding more defensive line and corner. We have the number one defense and have dumped high pick after high pick into it. I just can’t fathom watching the chiefs doing whatever they want next year as our newest defensive first and second rounders sit on the sidelines in a rotation or are largely ineffective. 
 

Let’s load up on offense and protect our best player. Give him a speedy slot that can get YAC and a RB that can hit the hole before it closes off. I honestly think this is the best ticket to beating good teams. Out score them. The defense is the number one unit in the league. Let the players we have develop and get a mid round or FA vet to compete at CB2. 

Edited January 29, 2022 by whorlnut

[BarleyNY]

4 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

a fast CB.  not even close.  

There are several positions that are needs.  But with Wallace a FA and a very strong possibility that Tre won’t be ready to go early in the season, it’s comfortably CB IMO. 

[LABILLBACKER]

This is not even close. With Tre being out till November and the possibility of Levi leaving,  I'm 100% convinced we'll take the best, fastest CB @25. We'll still target IOL but the play of Ryan Bates doesn't make it neccessary in the 1st round. 

[LABILLBACKER]

38 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

That thinking will continue to hold the team back…. Between the 8-9 man defensive line rotation and their constant emphasis on defense in general, they are doing Allen and the offense a clear disservice. It should be the priority this offseason. 

I think after a 1st round CB, you will see several offensive players drafted. Especially with the extra picks losing Daboll and maybe Frazier.  It wouldn't surprise me to see them take a chance on a mid draft DE.  I think Rousseau will improve but not AJE or Boogie. Let's say we have 10 picks, I could see 7 on offense. 

[RobbRiddick]

2 hours ago, Ramza86 said:

It was and will still always be OL.

 

The goal is to outscore teams. Protect Allen and get push off the line. This offense will outscore everyone.

 

I'm inclined to agree with this. Our defense is good enough to hold a lot of teams down throughout the season but when you get to playoff games against the likes of Mahomes, Burrow and (soon) Herbert, you need to blow them away.

 

I'd love to improve the OL with FA, then go for a speedy WR (1st) and RB (3rd) in the draft, maybe a CB in RD 2

[Alphadawg7]

4 hours ago, Lost said:

I personally would like us to upgrade our LB core.   Assuming we still have Leslie Frazier next year running a cover 2 still, it really asks a lot of our linebackers and IMO we've really been exploited the most in the middle of the field this season.   Tremaine Edmunds just hasn't been playing up to his potential and I think that's the one position we need an absolute playmaker right now.  

 

Tremaine Edmunds is doing what he is being asked to do.  

 

I would like to see a new DC use him differently.  Unfortunately, Daboll went to Giants which probably means Frazier now wont get a HC gig as that was his best shot.

[Alphadawg7]

2 biggest holes:  DB (Tre coming off injury, Levi FA) and DT (Star winding down, Phillips FA).

 

I think they will make a strong push to bring both Levi and Phillips back which will help shore up those holes if they can, but they still need to add another young corner (we have terrible depth) hopefully with speed and someone with size at DT.  

 

Next up...IOL.  I don't expect any big moves at WR given Cole is still here one more year (unless they trade him) and Davis is ready to start opposite Diggs.  Probably bring in someone in FA or mid rounds of the draft.  

[Real McClappy]

We need someone like this on the O

 

Treylon Burks anyone? This kids is gonna be great and has plenty of YAC that we need hardcore. Projected to be late 1st rounder.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021516-treylon-burks-nfl-draft-2022-scouting-report-for-arkansas-wr

 

 

Edited January 29, 2022 by Real McNasty

[gordong]

I keep saying this we need a pass rusher someone that the other team needs to game plan for., Unfortunately we don't have just one need... we need a CB, speed WR, IOL, not in any order except Pass rusher should still be #1 (Im hoping a vet that want to win a super bowl comes on the cheap). Big wish I know. 

13 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Coles gone IMO.

 

 

 According to Beane he expects Cole back for the final year of his contract. 

Edited January 29, 2022 by gordong

[gordong]

34 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said:

 

I'm inclined to agree with this. Our defense is good enough to hold a lot of teams down throughout the season but when you get to playoff games against the likes of Mahomes, Burrow and (soon) Herbert, you need to blow them away.

 

I'd love to improve the OL with FA, then go for a speedy WR (1st) and RB (3rd) in the draft, maybe a CB in RD 2

 How do you blow them away if the defense can't stop them????   it make the offense have to be perfect AND you have to end the game having the ball (with less than 13 sec.) so you're good with a 50% chance at beating the chiefs and whoever else every year?

[Alphadawg7]

22 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Coles gone IMO.

 

Beane always says what he means and does what he says.  And he said to expect Cole back, he has one more year on his contract.  So I really don' there is much chance of him being cut, unless Cole does something stupid.  

 

I do think he is a possible trade candidate though.  But barring a trade, he will most likely be our slot WR still this year.  

 

I did just post a thread about Saquan and how we might use Cole in a trade with the Giants.  Makes a lot of sense on both sides given Cole comes off the books after this year and could give immediate help to Jones to see if there is anything there to work with.  And could bring us back draft picks or someone like Saquan.  

 

 

[stinky finger]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Lack of effective pass rush was the single biggest reason we couldn't stop the Chiefs. We need a finisher at DE.

 

If I'm looking for impact on the D, this is where I'd go.

 

That said, supplying weaponry to JA and fortifying the OL would be prudent. 

 

As long as Josh is here, catering to him is paramount.

 

Doesn't mean you neglect positions elsewhere. We do have multiple picks. 

 

Priority is to keep the offense humming seamlessly.

[stinky finger]

2 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

 

Tyreek Hill made 39 look like he was standing still......just saying

 

He can to that to any CB. It's what makes him unique.

[LABILLBACKER]

58 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Saquan and that contract? ***** no… The Bills don’t need to invest gigantic cap space into a RB. That would be the complete opposite of what they need…. and no, Beane doesn’t always say what he means or do what he says… he said they needed more team speed last off-season. They proceeded to do nothing about it. 
 

 

No way you spend 1 penny on a RB. Draft Moss's replacement on a cheap 5 yr rookie deal. And maybe he ends up better than Singletary? Absolutely no huge deal. Sequon is over rated anyway. 

[stinky finger]

2 hours ago, NoName said:

I am surprised to hear no one mention TE.  Remember those games Dawson Knox was injured?  Tommy Sweeney was invisible and Gilliam isn't an option.  Having another good TE gives us more flexbility to benefit our run game and allows us to do more 2 TE formations. 

 

I think we need an upgrade at RB.  Singletary is good but how would this offense look with a very good RB?

 

The only position I would want to upgrade on the OL would be center and that's a maybe for me.  It depends on how we are going to establish the run.  If we are going to continue to get the OL guys on the move then I think we can make it work with Morse.

 

My picks

Go after C Ben Jones from the Titans in free agency

1st round CB Kaiir Elam Florida (great compliment to Tre....has size, toughness)

2nd round TE Jaylen Wedeymeyer Texas A&M (could end up being better than Knox is big and can move)

3rd round Kyren Williams RB Notre Dame (looks as good if not better than singletary with a little more power and speed)

4th round or later, I'd like to see them get someone to play the 1 technique

 

The idea of adding a "quality" TE excites. Having two that can catch and block could introduce a nice wrinkle. 

 

On obvious short yard situations mid-field, having a TE release from his blocking duties and heading up field interests me.

[BullBuchanan]

As long as we're going to play a rush 4 defensive scheme, the answer has to be DL.Outside of a few select top-tier CBs, most can't lock down top WRs forever, so you depend on consistent pass rush to get there in order to force quicker throws.

Yes, we've invested a lot in DL, but we haven't found our TJ Watt yet, so we shouldn't stop trying until we get one. MLB is is also a huge need in my book and if we let Levi walk, CB is also a need. All that said though, one dominant Dlineman makes everyone else on the defense better, so that's my pick.

[Awwufelloff]

Edmunds is the dumbest LB to ever play so LB

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

We might lose Levi Wallace in FA, will Tre come back and pick up right where he left off or will he be back in tip top form? I really liked how Dane Jackson did so he looks like the favorite to take the place of Wallace, I'd like some depth here but nothing that will break the bank (Desmond King (HOU) seems to fit the requirement- 93 tackles, 3 INT, 1 FF). 

 

We're most likely letting Jerry Hughes go in FA, I would like a solid veteran replacement like Melvin Ingram, Jadaveon Clowney, Emmanuel Ogbah and Dante Fowler etc. also a solid veteran DT alongside of Ed Oliver like Larry Ogunjobi (CIN) would be ideal also.

 

In the draft i think they'll go for offensive players, OL should be priority 1 imo (Bernard Raimann- Central Michigan and Trevor Penning- Northern Iowa would be the 2 I'd pin point), the right side could use upgrades, Cody Ford is a complete bust and Darryl Williams really struggled. I think RT may be our 1st pick in round #1, I think for sure somewhere in the draft we pick up a speed WR (Someone like Memphis WR Calvin Austin III, I think he's a solid all around player), also a speed RB with good hands (I like Jerome Ford Cincinnati and Tyler Goodson Iowa). I think CB depth, LB depth and TE depth will also be addressed.

[NewEra]

4 hours ago, JMF2006 said:

 

Tyreek Hill made 39 look like he was standing still......just saying

Just like he does to every corner in the league. No one can run with him

[RyanC883]

DL or LB.  No impact players there at all. We have impact players in the secondary.