Utah John Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: So, let me ask this. Honestly. If Cole has 10 catches for 70 yards that's a solid game from him right? If Davis (who has barely been seeing the field) steps in and gets 6 catches for 70 yards...is that not replacing production? Also understand that other players may see a spike in targets. Beasley is good at getting separation...no doubt. But he is not the "irreplaceable force" many make him out to be. We have seen him while playing injured disappear for entire games. Wheels keep going. It's nice when he's out there and an asset...absolutely. But his production is definitely replacable. Beasley last year was the guy who reliably and consistently moved the chains. This year, not so much. I don't know if he's lost a step or if defenses are playing him better or if the rotten O line is not giving Allen time to go through his progressions and find Beasley. But Knox (with some painful exceptions) seems to have developed into a good, move the chains, kind of TE. And we have McKenzie. So we can get by without Beasley. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Cole, Cole,Cole.... everybody on this board warned you Did you listen? Noooooooooooo 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: So basically you are tap dancing around answering the question I asked. Couldn't care less about Hill, Adams, Kelce et all. But I can mention other players too. Earlier in the season the Cardinals lost Kylar for a couple games. They still won. Team sport. You don't have to have a 1:1 swap. Production can come from many areas. And even be a cumulative stat. It's ridiculous to think that any WR (even Diggs) is completely irreplaceable. Hey, remeber when we lost Tre? Defense seems to be skipping along. People step up. You are gonna lose it when he's a cap cut this offseason 😂 What part of my post offended you? I've got no love for Beasley. I already stated the guy is a dick. And I previously said he was a fool for not getting vaccinated. His choice to make though. Regardless of that, he is still exceptionally productive as a slot receiver If you can't see that, you are blind from your own non-football related hatred of the guy. And if you think anyone else on this Bills' team is going to step into the slot receiver position and outplay him with consistency, I would bet you are going to be proven wrong. The Bills may replace him next year. If they do, his will be hard shoes to fill from a purely NFL slot receiver production standpoint. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonBillsfan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: This is bad info. They changed the policy Care to elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 So when he scores you still call him a dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: I seriously think every non-vaccinated player will test positive in the coming weeks. Omicron is spreading at a ridiculous rate and unvaccinated players are tested daily. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, benderbender said: Some vaccinated players will also end up testing positive, as we've seen. I just mean with the rate of infection and the NFL's policy on testing unvaccinated players I will be surprised if more than a few unvaccinated players don't end up testing positive at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evian Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Beasley not being vaccinated is irrelevant. Guys are going to test positive. He is out and now the next man up needs to do their job. Even if Josh Allen tests positive you just have to deal with it and move on. The reality is 95% of the league is vaccinated and every week a ton of guys are testing positive and are missing games. All these idiots attacking players are losers that need to get a life. It isn't like they are missing games to some off the field behavior. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, PolishDave said: Regardless of that, he is still exceptionally productive as a slot receiver If you can't see that, you are blind from your own non-football related hatred of the guy. He's 43rd in yards, 126th in yard/rec, and has 1 TD. I don't think many would classify that as "exceptionally productive." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I think when all of the Beasley anti-vax stuff was happening in the offseason, everyone thought as I did: "it'll be the Pats game." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evian Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Some vaccinated players will also end up testing positive, as we've seen. I just mean with the rate of infection and the NFL's policy on testing unvaccinated players I will be surprised if more than a few unvaccinated players don't end up testing positive at some point. About 95% of the players testing positive are vaccinated. Not "some" players. Virtually every player that has tested positive has been vaccinated. The vaccine does nothing to prevent you from getting it. This isn't rocket science to understand. 1 3 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Success said: The Pats may be without a few receivers also. This is hardly insurmountable. I wouldn't mind seeing Hodgins brought up - but they can still be potent w/ what they have, and it would be cool to see Stevenson in on some plays to stretch the field. I mean, it hurts us more. Beasley has almost as many targets as their two receivers that might be out combined. The Pats employ a very easy short passing game that won't be hard for their receivers to pick up. They also run the football a lot. I will say the Pats are losing their best receiver. The Bills are not so that's a plus. I just hope Daboll can create a gameplan around it because I don't really trust anyone else in Beasleys role except for Sanders and he is still out too afaik. Edited December 22, 2021 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Success said: I think when all of the Beasley anti-vax stuff was happening in the offseason, everyone thought as I did: "it'll be the Pats game." Close...playoffs for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 3 hours ago, nucci said: I guess being young and healthy didn't protect him like he thought Dawkins is young healthy and vaccinated and now dealing with Covid for second time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, FLFan said: Your hyperbole aside, let’s try and look at the bigger picture here, right? Beasley has not been as impactful on the field as last year, has been a major distraction and source of dissension within the team, to the point of McD benching him earlier this year, and is now letting down his team in the most important game of the year. He is not worth the trouble going forward, particularly at his contract value. His production is replaceable. He is done with the Bills in my opinion. I am sure many disagree, but he will not be on the Bills next year in my opinion. He’s been a source of dissension for ignorant fans, you have no idea what the teammates think of him. There is absolutely no proof if vaccinated he doesn’t catch it just the same. Good thing you are not the coach. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, Utah John said: Beasley last year was the guy who reliably and consistently moved the chains. This year, not so much. I don't know if he's lost a step or if defenses are playing him better or if the rotten O line is not giving Allen time to go through his progressions and find Beasley. But Knox (with some painful exceptions) seems to have developed into a good, move the chains, kind of TE. And we have McKenzie. So we can get by without Beasley. He looked to have the game won if Allen hits him in the final play vs NE. He's still a valuable option if you go to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just now, Scott7975 said: I mean, it hurts us more. Beasley has almost as many targets as their two receivers that might be out combined. The Pats employ a very easy short passing game that won't be hard for their receivers to pick up. They also run the football a lot. I will say the Pats are losing their best receiver. The Bills are not so that's a plus. I just hope Daboll can create a gameplan around it because I don't really trust anyone else in Beasleys role. I'm not sure it does. Bills have decent WR depth, with Davis/ McKenzie. imo we should be fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cDAVIS Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 3 hours ago, nucci said: I guess being young and healthy didn't protect him like he thought That's not at all what he meant. I'm not taking his side but if you thought he was saying he couldn't get covid then you missed the point of his stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haze_21 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 52 minutes ago, PolishDave said: Judge production however you want to judge it. When it comes to receivers, my primary measuring stick is do they get open and catch the ball. The stats say unequivocally that Beasley does that exceptionally well. So well in fact, that if you look at the guys who had more catches than him this year, you will see that Beasley is fourth or fifth on the list for completion percentages. He gets open and catches the ball. In fact, he does it better than a lot of well known players NFL fans drool over like Travis Kelce, Tyreek Hill, Keenan Allen, Davante Adams, etc. Beasley is a way above average receiver. And it is remarkable he outperforms much larger receivers with a larger catching radius. Wait you think cole is better than any of those guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thandGoal Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 his body -- his choice... We still have more talent then the Patsies-- it will be up to our coaches to prove their worth 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evian Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, 4thandGoal said: his body -- his choice... We still have more talent then the Patsies-- it will be up to our coaches to prove their worth I wished he got vaccinated but I agree. His choice. If the vaccine prevented him from testing positive I would be annoyed, but he could have gotten vaccinated and he still would have tested positive, just like all the guys who did get the vaccine. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Who is the teammate in the hospital Beasley refers to in his latest post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) this news was definitely unwanted but here we are. You know the Bills are built to adapt so someone will receive Beasleys snaps we shall see. Either that or Gabe Davis and Dawson Knox continue to go OFF and McKenzie takes one to the house....singletary!! This shouldnt be a team distraction it is what it is...adapt or fail. I pray they gameplan and the Bills WR position becomes a bit moot aka not HUGELY significant.....that would be ideal imo Edited December 22, 2021 by muppy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I wonder if game checks were forfeited for positive tests would players mask up outside their homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonBillsfan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, Utah John said: Beasley last year was the guy who reliably and consistently moved the chains. This year, not so much. I don't know if he's lost a step or if defenses are playing him better or if the rotten O line is not giving Allen time to go through his progressions and find Beasley. But Knox (with some painful exceptions) seems to have developed into a good, move the chains, kind of TE. And we have McKenzie. So we can get by without Beasley. Why are you questioning Beasley's value to this team.He gets open all the time, he never drops anything and he's as good as any slot receiver in football. Ask Josh, who is the guy he trusts most. Diggs and Cole. Knox is coming on but he's got to do a lot more in big spots to compare his value to Cole. Don't use his Vax status against him, and please don't compare him to McKenzie. That destroys credibility. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaii50 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 3 hours ago, mattynh said: Good thing he is vaxed so he will only miss one game worst case. Seriously, I am concerned about a larger outbreak at OBD.....vaxed dont need tests, wonder how bad it is. Hopefully we play this game with most of our players. Me too. I'm pretty sure he and Josh were sitting next to each other on the bench for a while on Sunday. Hopefully, outside kept the virus away from Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 crap, because I can't say *****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Who is the teammate in the hospital Beasley refers to in his latest post? Perhaps Feliciano? Mongo posted he was in getting treatment, and since out of hospital though Edited December 22, 2021 by MasterStrategist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 20 minutes ago, Evian said: About 95% of the players testing positive are vaccinated. Not "some" players. Virtually every player that has tested positive has been vaccinated. The vaccine does nothing to prevent you from getting it. This isn't rocket science to understand. Okay. That has nothing to do with what I said. The NFL policy is that unvaccinated players are tested daily. Many vaccinated players will get covid and not be tested. Unvaccinated players that get covid are 100% going to test positive and miss games as a result. Since the new variant is spreading so rapidly it is likely that most if not all unvaccinated players will eventually get it and then test positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 God is certainly a pats fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Hey get it out of the way now. Once the playoffs start he'll be in a 90 day testing holiday so guaranteed not to miss due to Covid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I hope Cole gets well soon if he has symptoms, but honestly he hasn’t been a huge factor this season. It’s a loss, but Bease being out shouldn’t be the reason we lose. We’ve gone much of the season without Bease production. Now I’ll let everyone get back to heated off topic debates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evian Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Okay. That has nothing to do with what I said. The NFL policy is that unvaccinated players are tested daily. Many vaccinated players will get covid and not be tested. Unvaccinated players that get covid are 100% going to test positive and miss games as a result. Since the new variant is spreading so rapidly it is likely that most if not all unvaccinated players will eventually get it and then test positive. It doesn't matter. It is about 1-2 players per team that are not vaccinated. The NFL is throwing science out the window and saying positive players can play as long as they are vaccinated are have no symptoms, but positive unvaccinated players have to miss games. It is the height of stupidity. Even government health officials have said the NFL policy is a joke. It is all a dog and pony show now with no real concern about covid. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, TN Bills Fan said: Hope he gets well. Not sure his 8 yards per catch and 1 TD will be hard to replace. Not the player he used to be. He’s your classic really good player at settling in holes in zone coverage and with our offensive line being as bad as it is that hasn’t been very useful 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatdane21 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 McKenzie and Stevenson gotta step up no drops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) Can we cut these two right after the season? Or do we have to wait until June or something for cap reasons? Edited December 22, 2021 by Process 1 2 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Who is the teammate in the hospital Beasley refers to in his latest post? Feliciano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evian Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 The Bills have receivers. Beasley loss hurts depth but should be no real factor in outcome of game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Glad to hear his symptoms aren't bad. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, gobills404 said: I must've missed the part where he said healthy people aren't capable of catching it. He'll probably be feeling completely normal within a week just like I was. He said it early in the season...why he wasn't getting vaccinated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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