FLFan Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 When I woke up this morning and learned that the Bills would be minus two starters on the OL to Covid, meaning that effectively only one starting player would be in their preferred OL position, I would have been happy to take 20 points against one of the leagues better defenses. Instead, the Bills scored 31, even though 20 would have been enough to win. Great effort by the Bills today. People complaining about this win are simply clueless. 8 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: It’s unbelievable how wrong McDermott is on nearly every 4th down decision. Last week he refuses to let his best player try to get a first down or TD on 3 or 4 separate 4th and 3s. Then today, finally allows it, and Davis gets his second TD catch. But that was also the wrong choice to go for it there. it probably doesn’t matter either way since Carolina was out of timeouts, but why leave a chance they get a freak play and an onside kick if you don’t convert on the 4th down? Why go for it there and not during the Bucs game at any point? to me, it was a no brainer to go on 4th down late today. If we kicked a FG, it would have been a 13-point game— that is pretty much the same as a 10-point lead. Better to kill clock or score a TD. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maine-iac Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Going to say what no one wants to hear. It was a good game and a win is a win but make the same mistakes (turnovers and penalties) against the Pats and we will most likely lose. At some point you need to bring your full A game when it's needed and throwing pics and bringing back multiple 10 plus yard runs because of penalties will not get it done. It's not can they beat the Pats, no doubt they can, but will they. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 If the bills lose next week and the Dolphins win, both teams would be 8-7 🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, LDD said: Good win against a really good D and a much improved (from 2020) Cam Newton. I respect the hell out that dude after his effort today. Frazier dialed up great blitz packages today. D line played tough most of the day and made some huge plays at big moments by knocking down passes. Allen is so good that when he's not AMAZING people think he played poorly. That's a good thing. Only play I really didn't like was the sack when we were backed way up on 3rd down in the fourth quarter. Looked like old Josh, scrambling, ball switching hands...scary. I didn't even hate the INT too much. He's a gun slinger and gun slingers gonna sling. DB made a great read by breaking off his coverage. O-line got a really good push at times today, which was different. Motor played great. Brown is a rookie being asked to do a lot. 5 penalties is unacceptable. He knows that, the staff knows that, we know that. Hopefully he fixes that. Play calling was good at times and terrible at others. Loved the outside run game that was effective though. Good win...keep rolling. Good post. regarding the bolded, it seemed to me like he was thinking to himself “I can get out of this and make a play”…..but he was just a little hobbled and didn’t want to push the issue and risk getting crazy. Idk, I could be way off, just my initial thought, haven’t seen the replay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Going to say what no one wants to hear. It was a good game and a win is a win but make the same mistakes (turnovers and penalties) against the Pats and we will most likely lose. At some point you need to bring your full A game when it's needed and throwing pics and bringing back multiple 10 plus yard runs because of penalties will not get it done. It's not can they beat the Pats, no doubt they can, but will they. We made two absolutely colossal mistakes early against the pats last time and still had about 15 different opportunities to win the game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Was that the same John Miller on the Panthers OLine that used to play here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, newcam2012 said: I'm not the only one who commented on his mediocre play. At halftime, Bradshaw, Jimmy Johnson, Howie Long, etc... showed several clips of Allen's poor play. I guess we see what we wanna see. How can you cite those cretins on the Fox studio show to prove your point? That was a classless hatchet job by the Fox clowns. They showed three clips - Allen's first 2 passes of the game that were poorly thrown and the INT. Are you kidding me? This is proof positive that the Fox studies hosts have an ax to grind with Allen. The Bills were leading 17 - 8 and they show Allen's FIRST TWO PASSES OF THE GAME? It's like they're trying desperately to prove the Allen is inaccurate narrative. Have you ever seen a halftime show focus in on the first two passes of a QB as a measure of how he did in the first half? It was bizarre and your citing this as proof of Allen's mediocre play tells me you also have an ax to grind with Allen. 3 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Was that the same John Miller on the Panthers OLine that used to play here? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDD Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Going to say what no one wants to hear. It was a good game and a win is a win but make the same mistakes (turnovers and penalties) against the Pats and we will most likely lose. At some point you need to bring your full A game when it's needed and throwing pics and bringing back multiple 10 plus yard runs because of penalties will not get it done. It's not can they beat the Pats, no doubt they can, but will they. Say it man, say it. It's the truth. One of the biggest issues with this team is discipline. Look for Belicheat's team to clean up their act against us next week. Can we do the same?? Coaching and discipline is a huge issue with this team this year. I like McD but he needs to clean up some messes that CANNOT happen if we're going to win in Foxboro next week. In other news, this is probably the biggest game we've ever played in Foxboro as far as importanc. Go Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Yes Still sucking I see hahaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Little bit better, but Brown looked out of his depth at LT for much of the day. And I am a huge Brown fan. Now Hasson Reddick is really good and Burns is very solid. But you know Belichick will be seeing weak spots on the line and trying to exploit them. We could have Feliciano and Dawkins back right ? Very different story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, UKBillFan said: Not so fussed about the number of yards. That interception was daft and there seemed to be communication issues between him and the other WRs at times. It happens; people are allowed to say Josh wasn't at his best (and it says a lot that he wasn't and still threw for three TDs) without being drawn into a disagreement all the time. He's human - like everyone he'll be better in some games than others. There's a difference between saying Allen wasn't at his best, which he wasn't, and saying he had a poor game. Under the circumstances he was solid today. * With that O-line EVERY pass play was an adventure from the get go. * Allen had a bad INT. He then led the Bills on a great 2nd quarter ending drive that resulted in a FG restoring both the Bill's momentum and two score lead. * Allen's first TD pass to Davis was spectacular. From Allen setting up the play by adjusting his WR's, to his freezing the safety in place with his eyes to delivering a strike only a few other QB's in the NFL could make. And all on 3rd and long. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, Steptide said: If the bills lose next week and the Dolphins win, both teams would be 8-7 🤮 And the bills hold the tiebreaker so who cares? The Bills have a lot to worry about, Miami isn’t one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Spencer Brown, Taunting, Are You F'ing kidding me? BILLS WIN! PLAY GLORIA! Although he had a ton of penalties, ( that taunting was a joke, didn't even see where they got that) physically I thought he played solid, there were a few times the whole line actually looked good holding the defenders off. When Boyle came in he did good too even though he allowed that one sack , Josh was holding the ball forever and Burns finally got through. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, RichRiderBills said: Josh played ok. I thought the int was a real bad throw...and a few other times he held the ball too long. A few plays not on him, like the bad pass protection, and that dreadful Sweeney drop. Still all things considered...gritty performance. He is a tough SOB and really proud he got in this game. And don't forget that first TD throw to Davis. Only a couple of other QB's in the league could make that throw. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Process said: As bad as Dawkins has been, we obviously need him back brown had a lot of penalties but he didnt look as bad as Dawkins has been lately 3 hours ago, UKBillFan said: That was tough for a 31-14 win! Worried about Josh; hopefully he's got a down game out of his system ready for next week (and we still scored four touchdowns). The trenches will kill us this season though - that and the inconsistency. His foot injury is why he was off but he still played a Hell of a game, that long run was impressive 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, RunJoshRun said: Have the Bills ever had a ROOKIE play both tackle positions in a season? has any nfl team ever ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 minute ago, balln said: has any nfl team ever ? Probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 42 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: We made two absolutely colossal mistakes early against the pats last time and still had about 15 different opportunities to win the game So we made mistakes and lost. Had we not made those mistakes we probably win ............. so we're on the same page I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, newcam2012 said: I disagree. His play was mediocre at best. Perhaps it was his injury? The Bills need a way better version of Allen to win vs quality teams. How much more quality is there beyond the number 1 defense? Does the NFL switch to letters for the real quality rankings? 1 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 This is nuts that with 3 games to play, we could be the #1 seed or be out of the playoffs. The AFC is wild this year!! 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMAKCruiser Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RunJoshRun said: Have the Bills ever had a ROOKIE play both tackle positions in a season? Jonas Jennings maybe??? Edit... Nope... In 2001, Jennings played 12 games, all of which he started at right tackle. In 2002, he moved to left tackle, starting all 15 games in which he appeared. Edited December 20, 2021 by SMAKCruiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 32 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Still sucking I see hahaha When I heard his name today and saw him spin like a turnstile, it all came back to me. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: And don't forget that first TD throw to Davis. Only a couple of other QB's in the league could make that throw. Yep. He has to know Josh is throwing that to the endzone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 The Bills were out of the playoffs after the Bengali's won. The the Ravens lost and the Bengals now lead the division and the Dirty Birds are on the outside looking in 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said: Your joking……right? No. I explained why I liked it. What didn’t you like? Honestly I’m curious. I thought with a makeshift O-line opening up with short passes and then mixing in the run and not getting away from it was the right call. It was a jailbreak out there. When the line started to hold up a little better you saw more intermediate routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: So we made mistakes and lost. Had we not made those mistakes we probably win ............. so we're on the same page I guess. I don’t think you need a perfect game to beat this pats team is what I was trying to say 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 4 hours ago, jlgarsh said: Anyone else feel like Obada should have been getting more snaps all this time? Nope. Couldn’t wrap up Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Any word on Dawkins and Feliciano? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumblinstumblin Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 4 hours ago, vanhalen26 said: I guess too late to flex into the night game next week. Would be way better than Washington vs Dallas. They stupidly thought the football team would be good without Alex Smith moth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: to me, it was a no brainer to go on 4th down late today. If we kicked a FG, it would have been a 13-point game— that is pretty much the same as a 10-point lead. Better to kill clock or score a TD. That's right. For some reason I thought we were up 14 at that point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I hope to hell we don't have any more Covid cases this week 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 For as "bad" as the Bills have played some games, they lead the NFL in net point differential by a country mile at 151. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Saints are laying the wood tonight. Making these Tampa pass catchers pay the price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: We could have Feliciano and Dawkins back right ? Very different story Yes, I hope so. I believe both are Vaccinated so need one neg test if they feel fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 hours ago, HappyDays said: I know Spencer Brown had kind of a rough game, but this was his first time ever playing LT in a football game. I thought in that context he showed a lot of potential. On one of his holding calls, he towered over the guy he was trying to block. He just enveloped him. It was like any average size adult playing against a 5 year old. Impossible to block him at chest level. I guess he should’ve just left him alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said: On one of his holding calls, he towered over the guy he was trying to block. He just enveloped him. It was like any average size adult playing against a 5 year old. Impossible to block him at chest level. I guess he should’ve just left him alone. i thought at least 2 of those calls were super ticky tack. One was when he almost grabbed a guy‘s head well after the action. It was unnecessary, but almost looked incidental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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