Josh in a boot after Tampa game (now says he's "good to go", no effects)

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 hour ago, Evian said:

The Bills need to accept they are not winning a Super Bowl and sit Allen until he is 100%.  If that means his season is over then it is what it is. 

 

 

God I hope this isn’t even close to the plan. This year should teach you nothing is a given from year to year. You need to go for it every chance you get because you might never get another chance. We need josh this week no matter what. We absolutely can’t lose this game. Can’t chance anything 

[Evian]

1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

God I hope this isn’t even close to the plan. This year should teach you nothing is a given from year to year. You need to go for it every chance you get because you might never get another chance. We need josh this week no matter what. We absolutely can’t lose this game. Can’t chance anything 

 

Well the Bills have to think long term. If you can't win 3 of next 4 with the backup they are not a good football team.

 

I just don't want to mortgage the future so we make the playoffs. The Bills are not good enough to win the Superbowl. They are a 7-6 team. 

 

 

[MAJBobby]

2 hours ago, nucci said:

The Bills have had worse OL than this one...also they played really well in 2nd half. Better pass protection and Singletary had some big holes

They do play well as long as the opposing team isn’t blitzing or running TE twists 

1 hour ago, Evian said:

The Bills need to accept they are not winning a Super Bowl and sit Allen until he is 100%.  If that means his season is over then it is what it is. 

 

 

Ha ha ha so a minor toe issue on the non plant foot and you want to sit him?  Did they sit Rodgers with his fractured toe on his non plant foot?

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

48 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

They do play well as long as the opposing team isn’t blitzing or running TE twists 

Ha ha ha so a minor toe issue on the non plant foot and you want to sit him?  Did they sit Rodgers with his fractured toe on his non plant foot?

 

With the O-Line factor  part of the answer. I'm on the side letting him heal. Have Allen for 10+ years mean more. But if the coaches thinks he's ready for sunday, i'll trust them.

Edited December 14, 2021 by Buffalo Bills Fan

[MJS]

59 minutes ago, Evian said:

 

Well the Bills have to think long term. If you can't win 3 of next 4 with the backup they are not a good football team.

 

I just don't want to mortgage the future so we make the playoffs. The Bills are not good enough to win the Superbowl. They are a 7-6 team. 

What nonsense are you even spouting? Bills aren't a good team of they can't win 3 of 4 games without their franchise QB?

[TheFunPolice]

I'm not convinced we can't get to the Super Bowl.

 

The AFC is a jumble. Titans and NE are the top seeds, along with Ravens.

 

Imagine this 3 game road:

 

Titans

Ravens

KC.

 

That doesn't sound impossible.

 

 

 

 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 12/12/2021 at 8:02 PM, CountDorkula said:

I mean they inexcusably traded maybe the best guard in football for a 6th rd pick and for some reason deiced Quinton Spain was not good enough after an all pro season. 

 

C'mon Man.  Wyatt Teller was not the best guard in football when the Bills traded him before the 2019 season.  He was slightly better than Vlad Ducasse.

And when exactly was Quinton Spain an "all pro"?  If he and his agent could make a legit case he had an "all pro" season the Bills couldn't have signed him to the contract they did, and the Bengals couldn't have re-signed him late in FA for vet minimum.

 

Obviously in retrospect trading Teller was a bonehead move, but at the time the most fervent reaction was objecting that the Bills were trading a young developmental guard to keep a bunch of older journeymen, and the reason made sense at the time (Morse out with concussion, wanted to be sure we had a good center)

[Hapless Bills Fan]

6 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

And let Ritchie incognito go , all stupid moves

 

It was stupid to let Ritchie go after he was retired, then unretired, then attacking a dude at a Florida gym and telling police officers he worked for the NSA? Or wanting to cut off his father's head?  C'Mon man.  The dude was batshit cray-cray.

 

Guy was out of football entirely that season trying to chase the cooties out of his cranium. He later admitted he was coming to Bills OL meetings drugged or drunk and phoning it in at times the previous season, which is why the Bills asked him to take a pay cut.  And he's not helping the Raiders at present - he's been on IR for them since mid-August with a calf injury

 

The revisionist history around here is nutsoid sometimes.

 

 

[nucci]

8 hours ago, Evian said:

The Bills need to accept they are not winning a Super Bowl and sit Allen until he is 100%.  If that means his season is over then it is what it is. 

 

 

surely you can't be serious,,,it is not what it is

[HamSandwhich]

5 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

I'm not convinced we can't get to the Super Bowl.

 

The AFC is a jumble. Titans and NE are the top seeds, along with Ravens.

 

Imagine this 3 game road:

 

Titans

Ravens

KC.

 

That doesn't sound impossible.

 

 

 

 

 

I’ve been thinking this all throughout, just need to get hot, what better time than now? They have the horses, just need to put it together. 

[YoloinOhio]

details of injury and timeline of foot sprain 

[Maynard]

7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

details of injury and timeline of foot sprain 

Hopefully this is just a Grade 1 sprain. By these accounts it appears to be so. I highly doubt Allen misses this game with so much on the line. Tomorrow will be a big day to see if he’s out practicing again. 

[Mr. WEO]

11 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Lol. The spirit of the argument vs. the letter of the law. 

But you be you. 

 

And no rebuttal for the statistical evidence of Welker's talent level? I am disappointed. 

 

 

The post I was responding too said, specifically, that Brady left because of the WR issue (NE has struggled to find a true #1).  That was the argument I was answering.

 

Welker had great stats in NE.  Not so much on his other 3 teams.

[YoloinOhio]

12 minutes ago, Maynard said:

Hopefully this is just a Grade 1 sprain. By these accounts it appears to be so. I highly doubt Allen misses this game with so much on the line. Tomorrow will be a big day to see if he’s out practicing again. 

The banged up bills guy seemed so think he wouldn’t be out there until Friday. I think he will be limited but out there every day 

[TheFunPolice]

Allen is going to play. Too much on the line. 

 

but I hope they protect him with playcalling 

[YoloinOhio]

This team needs everyone to step up ! Josh’s shoulders are getting heavy. 

[Aikman]

11 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

I'm not convinced we can't get to the Super Bowl.

 

The AFC is a jumble. Titans and NE are the top seeds, along with Ravens.

 

Imagine this 3 game road:

 

Titans

Ravens

KC.

 

That doesn't sound impossible.

 

 

 

 

 

Looks like just like it was in the 90's when Buffalo went to four straight Super Bowls thanks to being in the incredibly weak AFC. In those years, the real Super Bowl was the NFC Championship game. Heck, there were probably five teams way better than Buffalo in the NFC who's fan base had to watch an inferior team playing in the Super Bowl (Dallas, Washington, Green Bay, San Francisco, Giants) were all better than Buffalo. Fast forward, 25 years and here we go again. Not a single 10-win team in the AFC while the NFC has three and another two with nine wins. While KC has 9 wins, they have also already played 8 games at home. NE is 7-1 against the AFC but only 2-3 against the NFC. Tennesee seems to be the only comparitively strong team in the AFC but come on, Ryan Tannenhill  is going to win a Super Bowl?This has to be the year for the Bills....they have been handed a cupcake schedule within a cupcake conference so they better make the most of it.

[Nitro]

Allen will play and the Bills will win.

[Mat68]

Need a bit more running plays. I think we throw out Allen run plays for now.  Quick passing attack.  Get the ball out of Allens hands quick. 

[PatsFanNH]

1 hour ago, Maynard said:

Hopefully this is just a Grade 1 sprain. By these accounts it appears to be so. I highly doubt Allen misses this game with so much on the line. Tomorrow will be a big day to see if he’s out practicing again. 

It’s the better game to miss. Their O will cough the game up for you and you only need someone back there who isn’t going to do anything dumb. 

[TheFunPolice]

34 minutes ago, Aikman said:

Looks like just like it was in the 90's when Buffalo went to four straight Super Bowls thanks to being in the incredibly weak AFC. In those years, the real Super Bowl was the NFC Championship game. Heck, there were probably five teams way better than Buffalo in the NFC who's fan base had to watch an inferior team playing in the Super Bowl (Dallas, Washington, Green Bay, San Francisco, Giants) were all better than Buffalo. Fast forward, 25 years and here we go again. Not a single 10-win team in the AFC while the NFC has three and another two with nine wins. While KC has 9 wins, they have also already played 8 games at home. NE is 7-1 against the AFC but only 2-3 against the NFC. Tennesee seems to be the only comparitively strong team in the AFC but come on, Ryan Tannenhill  is going to win a Super Bowl?This has to be the year for the Bills....they have been handed a cupcake schedule within a cupcake conference so they better make the most of it.

 

NFC is very top heavy. Bucs, Rams, and Packers are the true contenders IMO. Maybe Cowboys. 

 

I don't buy the Cardinals as a real threat. 

 

AFC I wouldn't call cupcake at all; in fact, most of the good young QBs are in the AFC. NFC 6th and 7th seeds for the playoffs are total jokes. AFC has a lot more good young teams. 

 

[Figster]

I would seriously consider starting Mitch Trubisky. Over qualified to be a backup IMO. 

 

This is why we brought him here... 

 

  

[JohnBonhamRocks]

“Josh Boot” sounds like “Das Boot”

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

This team needs everyone to step up ! Josh’s shoulders are getting heavy. 

We can only hope this happens

2 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

Allen is going to play. Too much on the line. 

 

but I hope they protect him with playcalling 

With Daboll doing it, LOL. Here comes the QB power sweep to start the game off! This will be followed by 37 straight intermediate to long passes, followed by 3 more runs by Allen. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

7 hours ago, HamSandwhich said:

I’ve been thinking this all throughout, just need to get hot, what better time than now? They have the horses, just need to put it together. 

They are the kind of team that I expect to see in the super bowl assuming we start putting it together (big assumption I know) l don’t think this system of ball control offense and play good fundamental defense wins you multiple playoff games when someone like the bills or chiefs could score 14 points in like 2 minutes on you even if you’ve done a great job defensively the rest of the game. As the bucs game SHOULD have proved if we didn’t get screwed 😂 bucs pass rush started to gas out and they played some soft cover 2 to prevent quick scores which we absolutely lit up 

21 minutes ago, Figster said:

I would seriously consider starting Mitch Trubisky. Over qualified to be a backup IMO. 

 

This is why we brought him here... 

 

  

Very important game though it’s a tough call…season is pretty close to over if we lose this one.  And we seem very capable of playing with or playing down to anyone 

Edited December 14, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[ngbills]

Josh plays first half. Bills up 28-0 and Mitch plays second half. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

5 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

 I think they’ll lose another game(probably playoff game) where their offense has a chance to win it late and they come up short again. 

 

On the flip side we are due to win one of those. Over due in fact. 

 

[Figster]

2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

They are the kind of team that I expect to see in the super bowl assuming we start putting it together (big assumption I know) l don’t think this system of ball control offense and play good fundamental defense wins you multiple playoff games when someone like the bills or chiefs could score 14 points in like 2 minutes on you even if you’ve done a great job defensively the rest of the game. As the bucs game SHOULD have proved if we didn’t get screwed 😂 bucs pass rush started to gas out and they played some soft cover 2 to prevent quick scores which we absolutely lit up 

Very important game though it’s a tough call…season is pretty close to over if we lose this one 

I understand the importance. Myself personally, Trubs can execute a short yardage game plan very well IMO. I think this is a good opportunity to see what Trubisky can do IMO. Allen could back him up and go in If Trubisky struggles. Foot injuries have a tendency of dragging out the injury time span when you try to play on them. Allen is going to give his body up to make plays regardless.

 

Rest him... 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

6 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

KC is hot right now and if I had to bet I’d say the get back to the SB…. As for the Bills I’ll believe it when I see it…. They just don’t have enough offensively and Josh has to carry them week in and week out…. I think they’ll lose another game(probably playoff game) where their offense has a chance to win it late and they come up short again. 

They have plenty offensively skill position wise…arguably as much as anybody.  This offensive line is just blowing too many blocking assignments…you’ve gotta think they at least incrementally improve as time goes on.  And that could make all the difference.  We all saw what happened when TBs defensive line gassed out down the stretch 

14 minutes ago, Figster said:

I understand the importance. Myself personally, Trubs can execute a short yardage game plan very well IMO. I think this is a good opportunity to see what Trubisky can do IMO. Allen could back him up and go in If Trubisky struggles. Foot injuries have a tendency of dragging out the injury time span when you try to play on them. Allen is going to give his body up to make plays regardless.

 

Rest him... 

tough decision but I respect it lol I certainly wouldn’t have the guts to go through with that

[nucci]

14 minutes ago, Figster said:

I understand the importance. Myself personally, Trubs can execute a short yardage game plan very well IMO. I think this is a good opportunity to see what Trubisky can do IMO. Allen could back him up and go in If Trubisky struggles. Foot injuries have a tendency of dragging out the injury time span when you try to play on them. Allen is going to give his body up to make plays regardless.

 

Rest him... 

if he's able to do this then he starts. You don't "rest" your starting QB

[Big Blitz]

17 hours ago, nucci said:

The Bills have had worse OL than this one...also they played really well in 2nd half. Better pass protection and Singletary had some big holes

 

 

Totally agree about them being good in the 2nd half v Tampa

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, nucci said:

if he's able to do this then he starts. You don't "rest" your starting QB

I think they’ll start josh and limit the playbook…that’s huge though if they could start trubisky and win.  I’d be too scared to pull that trigger though so I’m glad it’s not a fan vote type thing and someone is payed to make that decision for my team haha 

[oldmanfan]

I am pretty sure you'd have to shoot Josh to keep him out of the game Sunday.

[Patrick Duffy]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

I am pretty sure you'd have to shoot Josh to keep him out of the game Sunday.

Absolutely. Interested to get an update on him whenever they give one. 

[Greg S]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

I am pretty sure you'd have to shoot Josh to keep him out of the game Sunday.

 

We are going to need him at NE. He doesn't play in that one then we aren't winning. My guess is the trainers and Josh will do everything they can so that he can play on Sunday. If he does then expect Josh throwing the ball ONLY and all of the running to be done by Singletary, Moss or Breida. If the Bills get up big or Josh is really hurting then you will see Trubisky.

[ShakAttack]

Kind of sucks that if Josh starts we would lose his threat as a runner in this game considering only one team has allowed less passing yards than Bills and it’s the Panthers. 

[nucci]

18 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said:

Absolutely. Interested to get an update on him whenever they give one. 

probably tomorrow as it's the first day of practice

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

4 hours ago, Aikman said:

Looks like just like it was in the 90's when Buffalo went to four straight Super Bowls thanks to being in the incredibly weak AFC. In those years, the real Super Bowl was the NFC Championship game. Heck, there were probably five teams way better than Buffalo in the NFC who's fan base had to watch an inferior team playing in the Super Bowl (Dallas, Washington, Green Bay, San Francisco, Giants) were all better than Buffalo. Fast forward, 25 years and here we go again. Not a single 10-win team in the AFC while the NFC has three and another two with nine wins. While KC has 9 wins, they have also already played 8 games at home. NE is 7-1 against the AFC but only 2-3 against the NFC. Tennesee seems to be the only comparitively strong team in the AFC but come on, Ryan Tannenhill  is going to win a Super Bowl?This has to be the year for the Bills....they have been handed a cupcake schedule within a cupcake conference so they better make the most of it.

This is incorrect revisionist history. The Bills did quite well vs. the best of the NFC those years in the regular season. They were a better team than the Giants in the first super bowl loss, Parcells just had a perfect game plan and they executed better to pull out an upset win that required a missed FG at the end. Agree that the Skins and Cowboys were superior teams in the subsequent three losses, but they were dominant in the NFC too, there weren't 3 or 4 other teams almost as good or that were clearly better than Buffalo each season. 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

I am pretty sure you'd have to shoot Josh to keep him out of the game Sunday.

Just don’t shoot him in his bad foot lol 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

4 hours ago, Aikman said:

Looks like just like it was in the 90's when Buffalo went to four straight Super Bowls thanks to being in the incredibly weak AFC. In those years, the real Super Bowl was the NFC Championship game. Heck, there were probably five teams way better than Buffalo in the NFC who's fan base had to watch an inferior team playing in the Super Bowl (Dallas, Washington, Green Bay, San Francisco, Giants) were all better than Buffalo. Fast forward, 25 years and here we go again. Not a single 10-win team in the AFC while the NFC has three and another two with nine wins. While KC has 9 wins, they have also already played 8 games at home. NE is 7-1 against the AFC but only 2-3 against the NFC. Tennesee seems to be the only comparitively strong team in the AFC but come on, Ryan Tannenhill  is going to win a Super Bowl?This has to be the year for the Bills....they have been handed a cupcake schedule within a cupcake conference so they better make the most of it.

Yea Tennessee got snakebit by injuries or the afc looks a lot different.  I’d put the full strength titans and chiefs right up there with the best in the nfc.  I think the cardinals are a bit overrated and the rams are probably a tier below GB/TB. afc is weird though matchup wise because the competitive teams are all built so drastically differently. We probably match up better in the nfc somehow despite the teams being better lol