Spencer Brown placed on Covid List [Edit: Thurs 11/18]

[MiltonWaddams]

9 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

This doesn't give me a lot of hope that he'll be back in time for either The Colts or The Saints 😔

 

 

I’m a bit of a Michael Rapaport fan. He does some live videos that are quite humorous. He did one this summer where he was out on the street and talking about how excited he was to get this over with but then sports figures were coming out as questioning what scientist were providing in terms of info. The quote was something along the lines of, “these doctors are going to school for 12 years and you are the right tackle of the Dallas Cowboys. Shut your mouth and listen to people who know better than you.” This falls right into place. I don’t understand why the world has come to a place where opinion means as much as fact. Peoples opinions are that the vaccine is being forced upon them. The fact is that the vaccine is being used to protect them and the health care system.

Maybe I shouldn’t be posting such opinions on here and I have overstepped. If so, I apologize.

[BigAl2526]

This sucks, of course.  We'll have to see how McDermott tries to cope with his absence.  Unfortunately, the Bills have not demonstrated that they can function effectively on offense with him out.  Feliciano should be back at least.  We want McDermott to have as many options as possible for manning the interior of the offensive line.

 

As far as Tommy Doyle is concerned, I think the team has concluded that he is both less athletic and behind in his development relative to Brown.  It is the team that will have to decide whether or not half a season of practice has sufficiently reduced his deficiencies.

Edited November 18, 2021 by BigAl2526

[Hebert19]

30 minutes ago, todd said:

They’re probably going to need to play 12 personnel to deal with this. One of the TEs will need to be a ol part of the time. This o line can’t really deal with any personnel losses. 

The good news is that having Knox back will make it less painful as he is a good blocker if they need to help at RT. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 hour ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

yeah, find a guy on a PS or off the street who knows nothing about our offense - all he has to is snap the ball, right?

 

😒

He is there incase 2 guys get hurt at center through out the course of a game. If he has to play, you are already in trouble 

[klos63]

6 hours ago, Patience said:

 

In an ideal scenario, yes, you'd have five good linemen blocking for a screen play.  However, as things happen (like the subject of this thread), you work within the confines of what you have available.  Running more screens and quick passes helps to compensate for a line that can't hold pass protection for a typical longer-developing pass play.  

You don't think teams would be on the look out for more screens, for more quick passes?  Teams could focus on defending against that.

And you need good lineman, there's no getting around it.

[Mat68]

14 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

This sucks, of course.  We'll have to see how McDermott tries to cope with his absence.  Unfortunately, the Bills have not demonstrated that they can function effectively on offense with him out.  Feliciano should be back at least.  We want McDermott to have as many options as possible for manning the interior of the offensive line.

 

As far as Tommy Doyle is concerned, I think the team has concluded that he is both less athletic and behind in his development relative to Brown.  It is the team that will have to decide whether or not half a season of practice has sufficiently reduced his deficiencies.

Brown being 1 of the 5 best lineman on the team isn't an indictment on Doyle.  Brown flashes as the best lineman on the team.  Doyle just needs to be more than a liability.  Bar isnt high her at all.  

[OldTimer1960]

Significant probability of losing until he returns.  If the OL the lost to the Jags shows up, just put one in the L column now.

[JaCrispy]

41 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

This doesn't give me a lot of hope that he'll be back in time for either The Colts or The Saints 😔

 

 

God, I love this man...👍

[FieldGeneral]

Biggest difference last time was Knox was also out. If we split these games, we're OK. We lose both, we will be fighting for survival with 4 other teams.

[ngbills]

10 minutes ago, klos63 said:

While I agree, I'll look at this from a team sports approach. I'll never forget an interview with Fran Tarkenton after he broke his leg while with the Vikings. He said he let his team down by not being able to play. Everyone knows a broken leg isn't his fault, but he understood the expectations of playing a team sport that you depend on your teammates to be there when needed. To risk missing two critical games during a tough stretch coming up hurts the team and Brown let's his team down by not being there. If he isn't vaccinated, it's a huge letdown for the team.

It's a very logical assumption. Statistics back it up.

Agreed. It is no different than so many other decisions players make. You do what is best for the team. In a normal world it would be get vaccinated. But the ridiculous political element becomes more important than the team. 

[Bubba Gump]

JFC....get the ***** vaccination. You got the chicken pox, measles, mumps and polio vaccines and your still alive?? This is turning into a joke.

 

Every 70,000+ fans have to be vaccinated, so why not every player??? 

Edited November 18, 2021 by Bubba Gump

[atlbillsfan1975]

1 hour ago, nucci said:

we're not a good enough running team to go heavy run

I believe he means 12 personnel or extra lineman not ratio run/pass

[Bubba Gump]

This ***** might cost us the season. Seriously. The O-line blows without him.

[CincyBillsFan]

Didn't Green Bay go on the road and beat a 7 - 0 Arizona team missing half a dozen key starters including BOTH their WR's and TE? Sure I would rather have Brown in the line up but if we can't at least split the next two games with him out we don't deserve to win the division.

 

 

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said:

This ***** might cost us the season. Seriously. The O-line blows without him.

Alarmist much? Settle down there little guy. 
 

There was a team last year before Brown in aBills Jersey 🙄 

[Patrick Duffy]

1 minute ago, Bubba Gump said:

This ***** might cost us the season. Seriously. The O-line blows without him.

I don't know what they come up with, but hope they keep D. Williams inside and try somebody else at RT. Brown has quickly proved his value and as a rookie I expect he will get better and better. So not having him out is a major loss, as we saw against Jags

[Aussie Joe]

Cant believe the amount of bedwetters around here...

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bubba Gump]

Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Alarmist much? Settle down there little guy. 
 

There was a team last year before Brown in aBills Jersey 🙄 

 

Did you watch the Jax game little guy??? The o-line was trash thay whole game there peanut!!

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said:

 

Did you watch the Jax game little guy??? The o-line was trash thay whole game there peanut!!

Did you watch 2020? Check your hysterics.
 

Hey once he recovers his immunity will be so awesome there is no way he catches a breakthrough case during the playoffs. 

 

 

[Patience]

40 minutes ago, klos63 said:

You don't think teams would be on the look out for more screens, for more quick passes?  Teams could focus on defending against that.

And you need good lineman, there's no getting around it.

 

Being on the lookout for out creates hesitation on the defensive line, no?  Which may be of assistance in pass blocking, wouldn't you say?

 

And you seem to miss the same point others are - unless you know of "good linemen" to pick between now and Sunday afternoon, this is what we have.  Saying we need "good linemen" does what, exactly?

[Bubba Gump]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Did you watch 2020? Check your hysterics.
 

Hey once he recovers his immunity will be so awesome there is no way he catches a breakthrough case during the playoffs. 

 

 

 

If Josh catches a breakthrough from another teammate, that could end the season.

[atlbillsfan1975]

12 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said:

 

Did you watch the Jax game little guy??? The o-line was trash thay whole game there peanut!!

I am starting to wonder how much of the play calling didn’t help cover up the line’s deficiencies. Don’t get me wrong I think the line we had in the Chiefs game is the best line.

Edited November 19, 2021 by atlbillsfan1975

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 minute ago, Bubba Gump said:

 

If Josh catches a breakthrough from another teammate, that could end the season.

If Josh catches mono from Sam it could end the season too.  Things happen. Enjoy the ride. These guys are people too.

[Bubba Gump]

1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

I am starting to wonder how much of the play calling didn’t help cover up the line’s deficiencies. 

 

Good question, but with Brown and Mongo out, the line had to re-shuffle. They were good last week....now what against Taylor??

[atlbillsfan1975]

1 minute ago, Bubba Gump said:

 

Good question, but with Brown and Mongo out, the line had to re-shuffle. They were good last week....now what against Taylor??

I hope Daboll can scheme different than trying to line Josh up in shotgun and hoping that solves it. 

[Bubba Gump]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

If Josh catches mono from Sam it could end the season too.  Things happen. Enjoy the ride. These guys are people too.

 

Not gonna argue, but if these guys really wanna win, then they'll do the right thing IMO.

[ProcessTruster]

10 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Did you watch 2020? Check your hysterics.
 

Hey once he recovers his immunity will be so awesome there is no way he catches a breakthrough case during the playoffs. 

 

 

See now there's the glass half full approach.  Well said 29

[Hapless Bills Fan]

59 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said:

JFC....get the ***** vaccination. You got the chicken pox, measles, mumps and polio vaccines and your still alive?? This is turning into a joke.

 

Every 70,000+ fans have to be vaccinated, so why not every player??? 

 

Because they have a union and a CBA, and that's what the union negotiated.  Was this a trick question?

 

Just a gentle reminder that we actually don't know Spencer Brown's vaccination status at this point. 

Unless he informs us, it's all surmise.

 

Example: Feliciano regularly re-tweets Covid conspiracy stuff, yet is vaccinated (source: him, and he ain't no AR weasel)

 

39 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said:

If Josh catches a breakthrough from another teammate, that could end the season.

 

That was the point of signing Trubisky - to have a backup QB who can actually play

[klos63]

45 minutes ago, Patience said:

 

Being on the lookout for out creates hesitation on the defensive line, no?  Which may be of assistance in pass blocking, wouldn't you say?

 

And you seem to miss the same point others are - unless you know of "good linemen" to pick between now and Sunday afternoon, this is what we have.  Saying we need "good linemen" does what, exactly?

Saying we need good lineman refutes the notion that you think we could get away with bad lineman.  It just doesn't work that way.  

 

No,  I don't think it creates hesitation on the dline. I honesty think you're trying to fool yourself into thinking that this isn't that big of an issue. 

[ColoradoBills]

8 hours ago, Motorin' said:

And condoms lower your risk of contracting sexually transmitted disease! Not a cure! 

 

I thank you for that.  I would like to use this logic in the future.

 

2 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Game over

 

Parental Waring:  Strong Language!

 

 

[finn]

So, to recap: Our left tackle is having the worst year of his career; our left guard is also playing poorly, but he's injured and has been replaced by a backup who's even worse; our center is playing relatively well (which isn't saying much), our right guard is mediocre at best; and our right tackle is out with COVID, so the replacement will be a) an extremely raw rookie, b) the aforementioned mediocre guard who is alarmingly bad at tackle and would in turn be replaced by a guard who may well be the worst in the league; or c) a inexperienced backup (Bates).

 

This on a team with a superstar quarterback, a terrific set of wideouts, a rising star at tight end, a competent pair of backs, and the best defense in the league. In other words, a Maserati of a team with Walmart tires. 

[Nuncha]

This sucks....so the line will probably shift to the garbage we had vs Jacksonville.  

[Mr. WEO]

20 pages about a RT with 4 career starts who is about to miss his 3rd game out of the last 4-----this place is amazing!!

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said:

Cant believe the amount of bedwetters around here...

 

You call it bedwetting - I call it realism. Did you see the OL without Brown? Now we're walking into a game with Indy without Brown, Lotulelei, Edmunds, and possibly Milano. Optimism is great. But you'd be kidding yourself to not be concerned.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

25 minutes ago, finn said:

So, to recap: Our left tackle is having the worst year of his career; our left guard is also playing poorly, but he's injured and has been replaced by a backup who's even worse; our center is playing relatively well (which isn't saying much), our right guard is mediocre at best; and our right tackle is out with COVID, so the replacement will be a) an extremely raw rookie, b) the aforementioned mediocre guard who is alarmingly bad at tackle and would in turn be replaced by a guard who may well be the worst in the league; or c) a inexperienced backup (Bates).

 

This on a team with a superstar quarterback, a terrific set of wideouts, a rising star at tight end, a competent pair of backs, and the best defense in the league. In other words, a Maserati of a team with Walmart tires. 

 

I think that sums up the situation quite accurately

[Patrick Duffy]

8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

20 pages about a RT with 4 career starts who is about to miss his 3rd game out of the last 4-----this place is amazing!!

Thing is, that RT with 4 starts has made it quite clear the OL is much better with him playing. Which is a good sign he's done that well in that little time

Edited November 19, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins

[Aussie Joe]

13 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

You call it bedwetting - I call it realism. Did you see the OL without Brown? Now we're walking into a game with Indy without Brown, Lotulelei, Edmunds, and possibly Milano. Optimism is great. But you'd be kidding yourself to not be concerned.

Even if they lose this game… the season goes on at 6-4..

Edited November 19, 2021 by Aussie Joe

[Doc Brown]

3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Win or lose this game… the season goes on at 6-4..

Try again man.

[Aussie Joe]

3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Try again man.

yes I see what you mean now… original post edited 

Edited November 19, 2021 by Aussie Joe

[Doc Brown]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

Try what again? 

Tough break that whether we win or lose we're still somehow 6-4.