cwater10 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Have they disclosed if it is a positive test or close contact designation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Just now, JohnNord said: I’m not so sure that Star is the difference between winning and losing in KC Hard to say. He could’ve been the difference in where that game was played tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, BearNorth said: This is from August of this year: SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints renewed its prior calls to members to get a COVID-19 vaccine and to wear face masks in public gatherings Thursday. Church leaders said in a statement that available vaccines have proven to be both safe and effective and urged members to help limit the spread of the virus. The message was the latest in a series of statements from church leaders encouraging vaccination efforts against COVID-19. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/24/even-lds-leaders-are-struggling-get-mormons-vaccinated-against-covid/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, cwater10 said: Have they disclosed if it is a positive test or close contact designation? They're not allowed to say. Only the player can. But I don't think it makes a difference in terms of how long he sits out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, Governor said: What’s infuriating about it is that we probably would’ve made the SB with him last year. Tampa would’ve stomped us but still. This has to be a joke lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwater10 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Just now, Doc said: They're not allowed to say. Only the player can. But I don't think it makes a difference in terms of how long he sits out. I believe it does make a difference. I recall this summer when there was a rash of close contacts with Beasley, AJ Klein etc... There were all cleared to play after 5 days from the close contact event and available for the Green Bay preseason game, when we initially assumed that they would not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Good thing we didn't trade our dline depth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, klos63 said: Good thing we didn't trade our dline depth. Sure seems to be true today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, Motorin' said: I want to see Basham in the lineup, please. *****in' A, Bubba! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, cwater10 said: I believe it does make a difference. I recall this summer when there was a rash of close contacts with Beasley, AJ Klein etc... There were all cleared to play after 5 days from the close contact event and available for the Green Bay preseason game, when we initially assumed that they would not be. If so, let's hope it was just a close contact then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: To be fair, whether he got vaccinated or not doesn't really count towards today. If he misses the Colts game, however... (unless he comes down with bad symptoms). Hope he recovers quickly. Have you already forgotten last weeks game? The one where the 14 point dog beat the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Just now, BTB said: Have you already forgotten last weeks game? The one where the 14 point dog beat the Bills? Eh, it was the annual "weekend of upsets." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwater10 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Doc said: If so, let's hope it was just a close contact then. Definitely hope that's the deal... Here are quotes from NFL Press release: "Unvaccinated individuals will continue to be subject to a five-day quarantine period if they have close contact with an infected individual." "If an unvaccinated person tests positive, the protocols from 2020 will remain in effect. The person will be isolated for a period of 10 days and will then be permitted to return to duty if asymptomatic." https://operations.nfl.com/updates/football-ops/2021-covid-related-operating-principles/ Edited November 14, 2021 by cwater10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) Hoping he gets well soon if he has symptoms, but I think we’ll be fine as a team. Interior D linemen aren’t my biggest worry over the next two weeks. Hope Star recovers easily, that’s the biggest issue at play imo. Edited November 14, 2021 by SirAndrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, Governor said: What’s infuriating about it is that we probably would’ve made the SB with him last year. Tampa would’ve stomped us but still. You obviously did not see how our offensive line looked in the AFC Championship Game. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel City Mafia Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) Well the good news is he won’t have to now be tested again for 90 days Edited November 14, 2021 by Steel City Mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 52 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Man this sucks. Not so much for this week because I think the jets will try to throw the ball, but also because Star had COVID earlier this season and was not vaccinated. That means he’s out for 10 days, and it means he’ll miss the game against Indy which could be a huge loss When did Star have Covid "earlier this season"? I think you are misinformed. He had to isolate for 5 days as a close contact of a trainer who tested positive, which meant at the time (preseason), he was either unvaccinated or not completely vaccinated: https://www.wkbw.com/sports/buffalo-bills/buffalo-bills-wr-cole-beasley-three-others-identified-as-close-contacts-of-trainer-who-tested-positive-for-covid-19 At this point, we do not know his vaccination status, which may have changed since that time. Beane and McDermott both said that more players have gotten vaccinated since the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 19 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: On a somewhat related subject, is Mitch T still out? Hasn't it been 10 days, would that mean he is still actually sick and/or likely un-vaxxed? Don't know could just of not gotten two clear tests yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 54 minutes ago, Process said: He's unvaccinated so he's out next game too right? We do not know his vaccination status at present, nor whether he was sent home as a close contact or due to symptoms. He was apparently unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated in late August, when he missed 5 days as a close contact of an infected trainer. If he is unvaccinated, he could have been a close contact and could be back in 5 days if he tests negative. If he is vaccinated, he could also be back in 5 days if he's not symptomatic and tests negative. If he's unvaccinated and has Covid, I hope he has a mild case and recovers quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Doc said: They're not allowed to say. Only the player can. But I don't think it makes a difference in terms of how long he sits out. No it actually does make a difference if he contracted COVID. If you are unvaccinated players are automatically out for 10 days whether you test negative or not. If you are vaccinated, you can return after 2 negative tests. Essentially it can be the difference between 1 game vs 2 games Edited November 14, 2021 by JohnNord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: LOL just because he got Covid doesn't mean he isn't vaccinated. Vaccine isn't 100% effective. He was not vaccinated at the end of August when he was sent home as a close contact, because vaccinated close contacts don't have to quarantine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 50 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Yes… at least he was unvaccinated as of this summer when he caught COVID the first time. Again: When did Star catch Covid this summer? Please stop saying this until you show the evidence because I think it is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: We do not know his vaccination status at present, nor whether he was sent home as a close contact or due to symptoms. He was apparently unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated in late August, when he missed 5 days as a close contact of an infected trainer. If he is unvaccinated, he could have been a close contact and could be back in 5 days if he tests negative. If he is vaccinated, he could also be back in 5 days if he's not symptomatic and tests negative. If he's unvaccinated and has Covid, I hope he has a mild case and recovers quickly. I forgot that he could be a close contact… Hopefully that’s the case here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 51 minutes ago, klos63 said: Really hitting all around the league right now. Hope the players aren't getting careless, would really mess up the season for some teams. I think we're going to see some NFL protocol changes, but the question is before or after some team has a big mess, and will we be that team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Again: When did Star catch Covid this summer? Please stop saying this until you show the evidence because I think it is incorrect. My bad… you were right he was a close contact but he was still unvaccinated. That’s was my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 33 minutes ago, Doc said: They're not allowed to say. Only the player can. But I don't think it makes a difference in terms of how long he sits out. It does, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Shame. D starts with Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, JohnNord said: My bad… you were right he was a close contact but he was still unvaccinated. That’s was my point If Star had contracted Covid on August 24, then this situation would quite possibly not exist because he would have been exempted from daly testing for 90 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 This is yet another scary scenario for this team. It absolutely amazes me that Vaccinations are not mandatory at the very least for all the players and coaches in the NFL. If we make the playoffs and players like Diggs or Allen get Covid how screwed are we?. Vaccinated people still can get this virus even when being careful and having unvaccinated players on the team increases the chances hugely. Just ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think we're going to see some NFL protocol changes, but the question is before or after some team has a big mess, and will we be that team? Do you have statistics of players placed on Covid exempt lists for each week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 doubt NFL does anything about this for the rest of this season. its too late to fight the NFLPA. clearly there are alot of players who have "decided" to not get vaxxed. Star being out, Rothlisberger being out, Rodgers being out last week, Mitch, tons of other no names from other teams we dont really hear about, this isnt really all that surprising. the thing that gets me is, these guys have access to the best medical knowledge in the world in most cases, and i guess it doesnt mean much. sucks about Star, the odds were good this would happen tho. how long b4 another big time star or QB gets hit with it and cost his team games and or playoffs seeding etc? we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I hope Star gets well soon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Star being out concerns me more than Edmunds being out. Aj Klein is a solid backup to put in place of Edmunds. Harrison Phillips really hasent had a huge impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnNord said: Man this sucks. Not so much for this week because I think the jets will try to throw the ball, but also because Star had COVID earlier this season and was not vaccinated. That means he’s out for 10 days, and it means he’ll miss the game against Indy which could be a huge loss What makes you think they're gonna throw? They're offense came alive with Mike White because they are running the ball and throwing short passes.. Star would be huge today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnNord said: Man this sucks. Not so much for this week because I think the jets will try to throw the ball, but also because Star had COVID earlier this season and was not vaccinated. That means he’s out for 10 days, and it means he’ll miss the game against Indy which could be a huge loss Wow, this is actually terrible! He has been playing possessed! He was a beast against the jags! He was in the backfield , dominating the line and kept Edmunds clean all day! Big loss for us, now our middle is all second string like our o line experienced! Also no zimmer to cover the loss! Last year we seemed to get our share of lucky breaks, this year bad things keep happening, BAD THINGS MAN! Critical game ,,,,,,even if we win and the Steelers win without Ben, suddenly they are above us in the playoff seeding! That first game and of course our jags loss is already nibbling , if not biting us! I feeel bad for Star, skipped last season because of Covid, only to get it at the half way point this year! After watching clay troia’s great breakdown of our embarrassing line play wher Ford triple teamed a guy leaving clean runners at Josh, another play where all 5 of our lineman were beaten so badly by 4 guys, they all had their backs turned watching Josh getting hit, I am at a show me state of mind regarding our O! Hate saying this,,,,hate it,,,,,but so many little things adding up ( Josh refusing to throw to wide open short/hot routes, refusing to run and take easy yards to just keep holding the ball for a deep route to clear etc.),,I am thinking this team is in trouble! You need luck and this year ours is less than good Let’s see if Daboll can get Josh to listen , and can Dabs finally get back his creativity with motion, jet sweeps, up tempo etc or do we still not adjust if we get off to another slow start !? We didn’t need this w Star,,,,bad things man ! Seems like a true pivot point in our season! I want to enjoy a win as much as I’m enjoying looking at Cynthia’s nice legs in her unseasonable short, shorts outfit ! 😄😉. No room for mistakes Bills ,,,,, just like Cynthia sitting down in front of the camera in those shorts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beach Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 its funny how hardly anyone is concerned about the health of the player, only that he misses games. shameful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 He didn't do squat against Tennessee so that's a consolation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark Vader said: You obviously did not see how our offensive line looked in the AFC Championship Game. He would’ve helped in the first KC game when they gashed us all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Beach said: its funny how hardly anyone is concerned about the health of the player, only that he misses games. shameful. Come now. We all hope that he’s fine. So he can return to the field faster. Seriously though, nobody here doesn’t wish him well. I think that’s understood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Motorin' said: I want to see Basham in the lineup, please. Exactly, we didn't draft him high (over an olineman) just to sit on the bench. Start getting him reps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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