Von Miller to the Rams

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

They get slightly conservative when it comes to big boy moves…. 

If it is the Bills Josh will have to carry the offense again because this offensive line will be demolished against that front. 

I like Beane, I think he has done a relatively good job. But I’m a firm believer that to in order to take the next step and win the super bowl, you need to make a trade or a big FA acquisition to put you over the top. We are ready for that big boy move. Kelly had Thurman, and I think Allen needs his Thurman and a Guard. We have enough talent on defense to win with how good our offense plays. It’s time to go get Scherff and Barkley. 

[OZBILLS]

6 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Why can’t we make big boy moves like this? I really hope Beane does something, because he needs to make a move. His build through the draft has been good, but he’s missed on a few picks as well. The Rams have built a very good team. I hope we make a splash before the deadline. 

 

Watching everyone get stronger...trying to go for it whilst we have a thumb firmly up our ass.

 

 

 

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, OZBILLS said:

 

Watching everyone get stronger...trying to go for it whilst we have a thumb firmly up our ass.

 

 

 

I hate it. Our franchise hasn’t done crap in it’s entire existence. We are ready right now, and I hope we pull the trigger. If we don’t do anything, I’m not entirely sure we have enough to beat teams like TB or the Rams. Their D lines will abuse us. Players like Scherff and Barkley would help counter those defenses. 

[QCity]

It's easy to like the move if you envision them winning the Lombardi.

[Milanos Milano]

4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

You could consider Diggs that move… but they need more offensively. Specifically upfront. It’s just not good enough. 

So my answer is to go get Scherff and Barkley. Getting those two would get us a super bowl. I’m 100% confident about that. We can worry about the money problems later, just get us the super bowl monkey off our backs. 

Edited November 1, 2021 by IronMaidenBills

[QCity]

6 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

So my answer is to go get Scherff and Barkley. Getting those two would get us a super bowl. I’m 100% confident about that. We can worry about the money problems later, just get us the super bowl monkey off our backs. 

 

I'm 100% confident you have no idea what your'e talking about if you think we can absorb those 2 salaries. Not even considering how lame Barkley looks after that ACL tear.

[Milanos Milano]

Just now, QCity said:

 

I'm 100% confident you have no idea what your'e talking about if you think we can absorb those 2 salaries. Not even considering how lame Barkley looks after that ACL tear.

Then blame Beane, he hasn’t built a good enough roster to win a super bowl. He needs to trim the fat then in order to make these moves. 

[No_Matter_What]

42 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

So my answer is to go get Scherff and Barkley. Getting those two would get us a super bowl. I’m 100% confident about that. We can worry about the money problems later, just get us the super bowl monkey off our backs. 

You can't be serious with this statement, can you?

 

 

[The Jokeman]

47 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

So my answer is to go get Scherff and Barkley. Getting those two would get us a super bowl. I’m 100% confident about that. We can worry about the money problems later, just get us the super bowl monkey off our backs. 

Barkley isn't healthy even when he was playing he wasn't the same RB. He might be back next season. Scherff is good but guys like him don't get moved unless Washington thinks they can't bring him back.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

6 hours ago, clayboy54 said:

Miller is still good, but he is clearly not the force that he once was. Yes, it's a cheap price to pay but any cost is questionable based on what I've seen from him in recent years. Around here we would be complaining that it's an expensive rental for an aging veteran on the downside of his career.

If there were a Super Bowl for complaining, Bills fans would be perennial contenders 

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

If there were a Super Bowl for complaining, Bills fans would be perennial contenders 

Because our franchise has never won a super bowl. We are tired of waiting. Just win. I don’t care how we win, just win. If that means making trades, so be it. No more excuses. 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

6 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

If he's "always injured" how has he managed to only miss 1 game in the previous 6 seasons?

Let him go … he’s got a narrative and he’s sticking to it, truth be damned 😂

[Just in Atlanta]

Kyler Murray, Jimmy Garappolo and Russell Wilson better invest in some Aflac.

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

6 hours ago, Process said:

The Bills should absolutely be looking to make a big time move like this. 

 

It may be a while before we have an easier road to the SB. The AFC is weak. This is the year.

a buddy of mine who is a Broncos fan said he had heard the Bills were trying to land Von Miller. Rams outbid them. This is news to me. 

[billsfan89]

11 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

a buddy of mine who is a Broncos fan said he had heard the Bills were trying to land Von Miller. Rams outbid them. This is news to me. 

I hope this is true, not that I think Von Miller would have been a great get (would like to have him but not at the draft capital the Rams paid) but I hope it is a sign the Bills are acting aggressively at the deadline to add a piece or two to the team. The AFC is theirs for the taking and if I am McBeane I am desperately trying to land an impact guard as the final piece to get this team over the top.

[JAMIEBUF12]

We should take Gesecki off Miami’s hands😜

[gonzo1105]

I love how people keep talking about how the Bills won’t win a Super Bowl as constructed and need to make a big move. Yes they need help at Guard, CB, and maybe RB but the Bills are the best team in the AFC with maybe the exception of the Ravens/Titans. 
 

This is after they got mauled by the Chiefs last year and everyone this off-season complained about how the Chiefs got so much better adding Thuney, Orlando Brown, and Jarran Reed. Yet theBills are 5-2 on their way to 7-2 and the Chiefs are 4-4. 
 

How many Super Bowls have the Rams won? The Eagles dream team won nothing, the Redskins signed tons of big name FAs and got zero. Sometimes continuity and chemistry are more important. I hope they do add a big physical guard but if they don’t I get it 

[Floydboy12]

I just don’t understand the mindset that the Bills should stand pat. They’re not good enough to win a Super Bowl as is. What’s the best win? Over a Chiefs team that clearly isn’t it’s former self? Just my opinion. But they should have traded up in the draft to get Najee Harris and now should be exploring all possibilities to land an effective O lineman. 2 of them if possible. 

Edited November 2, 2021 by Floydboy12

[billsfan89]

28 minutes ago, Floydboy12 said:

I just don’t understand the mindset that the Bills should stand pat. They’re not good enough to win a Super Bowl as is. What’s the best win? Over a Chiefs team that clearly isn’t it’s former self? Just my opinion. But they should have traded up in the draft to get Najee Harris and now should be exploring all possibilities to land an effective O lineman. 2 of them if possible. 

This team doesn’t need a running back, Moss is a capable power back and Singletary a nice backup. The team needs Oline help particularly at guard.

[Warcodered]

 

[HappyDays]

I love how fans just throw out names like Andrew Norwell and Brandon Scherff and assume they are available. Good interior o-linemen do not get traded. Any team at any point in their life cycle needs good interior o-linemen and they are hard to find. Someone on here randomly mentioned Norwell as a trade target a few weeks ago and all of a sudden Beane is a failure if he doesn't trade for him. Why would a head coach fighting for his job with a rookie QB allow that to happen? I'm all for the Bills making sensible trades but the other team has to be willing to move on from the player.

Edited November 2, 2021 by HappyDays

[billsfan89]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I love how fans just throw out names like Andrew Norwell and Brandon Scherff and assume they are available. Good interior o-linemen do not get traded. Any team at any point in their life cycle needs good interior o-linemen and they are hard to find. Someone on here just threw out Norwell's name a few weeks ago and all of a sudden Beane is a failure if he doesn't trade for him. Why would a head coach fighting for his job with a rookie QB allow that to happen? I'm all for the Bills making sensible trades but the other team has to be willing to move on from the player.

Good Oline players have gotten traded at the deadline. Duane Brown from the Texans to the Seahawks happened in season. Not sure if I recall any others in season but it isn’t impossible. Unlikely yes but I think if some bad team could be willing to trade a guard for a pick or two.

 

Norwell makes little sense as I can’t see his cap number fitting but maybe Hernandez from the Giants is a possibility but I am not sure he is much of an upgrade from what is on the roster. 

[B-Large]

Miller wouldn’t be signed by Denver next season so getting 2 picks for him is the best move.

 

Denver’s defense scheme had Miller in coverage quite a bit- he’s best when rushing the passer.  Let him go play somewhere where he gets to do what made him a SB MVP.
 

he will be what Demarcus Ware was for the Broncos 5 years ago… tail end of his career, but plenty to contribute to an elite defense.

 

Denver is thinking QB 2023 draft, Paton is playing the long game.  
 

Melvin Gordon might be a guy the Bills should inquire about.  I think he could be had and could be a nice addition. 

 

 

[Hebert19]

They just said on GMFB that we called for Von Miller too.  

 

Expect a move today!!

[BearNorth]

Looking at PFF Grades through week 8, Wyatt Teller is ranked 4th and Quinton Spain ranked 13th. Meanwhile we have Feliciano [hurt] at #50, Boettger at 59, and Cody at 72/74.  Wonder how some of these decisions are made?

[Beerball]

8 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

 

Expect a move today!!

I just had one.

[aristocrat]

Beane is a little obsessed with the d line. let's get some o line help.

[YoloinOhio]

23 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

They just said on GMFB that we called for Von Miller too.  

 

Expect a move today!!

Beane probably calls about anyone he thinks could help the team. Not surprised 

[colin]

while i think the bills need interior OL help the most, i think the brass thinks our O is pretty much capable of scoring on anyone, and since we have some extra DL we can cut (we sit guys who get major burn pretty regularly) it does kinda make sense that they want a better pass rusher add on this year.

 

also, i've gotta think it's easier to rotate in an older pass rusher for 20-30 snaps a game than it is to get a new starter on the OL ready to play in our scheme.

[BuffaloRebound]

Whoever’s available that could most help the running game is who Beane should go after.  There’s always games where you need to control the clock and grind out a win.  A Guard, a RB, another TE… they probably all could help.  One difference maker there would be nice.  

[BillsShredder83]

20 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

Agreed, but they won't do it. Their approach is to be consistently good and be fortunate enough to win one year.

well theres a reason these trades are rare.... coming in mid season in NFL isnt exactly like trading for a superstar in NBA/NHL, so if we dont pull the trigger thats a huge reason why, not cause Beane is timid thats for sure

[BillsShredder83]

20 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

No, they are paying for 2nd and 3rd round picks as ammunition in a draft where they anticipate having to find a solution at QB.

No Rodgers rate being negotiated on that trade!

[BuffaloRebound]

I commend the Rams in going for it, but they clearly don’t value draft picks the way the rest of the League does.  If I was looking to unload a player for draft picks, they are the first phone call I’d make.  

[gonzo1105]

58 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Talent trumps everything….. I think the Bills are the best team in the AFC… if the Rams get there from the NFC that would be one bad match up all the way around…. Would need Josh Allen to be Superman yet again.

No talent doesn’t trump everything. The Bills have proven that theory inaccurate. You could argue the Bills don’t have a single player best at their position in the game. Allen and maybe Micah Hyde come close to that but aren’t. 
 

The Browns and Chiefs prob have the best talent in the AFC and neither are in the playoffs as it sits today 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

21 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Looks like our tackles will have another pedigreed pass rusher with whom to contend in the Super Bowl.  Go Bills. 

Our Tackles are horrid against speed rushers too. I forget, what is Von Miller?

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

1 hour ago, BearNorth said:

Looking at PFF Grades through week 8, Wyatt Teller is ranked 4th and Quinton Spain ranked 13th. Meanwhile we have Feliciano [hurt] at #50, Boettger at 59, and Cody at 72/74.  Wonder how some of these decisions are made?

 

The decisions were made according to The Process™. 

 

As much as we love Beane his O-line decisions have left a lot to be desired. He traded Teller (and a 7th) for a 5th and 6th. He released Spain 6 weeks into a 3 year deal and returned negative value with the dead cap hit. 

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/offensive-line/

 

We have one of the pricier O-lines in the league this season, and our O-line is one of the worst in the league. We have to be dead last in terms of money spent vs quality of play.  

[Mango]

27 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

The decisions were made according to The Process™. 

 

As much as we love Beane his O-line decisions have left a lot to be desired. He traded Teller (and a 7th) for a 5th and 6th. He released Spain 6 weeks into a 3 year deal and returned negative value with the dead cap hit. 

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/offensive-line/

 

We have one of the pricier O-lines in the league this season, and our O-line is one of the worst in the league. We have to be dead last in terms of money spent vs quality of play.  

 

I like Beane, but he has us overcommitted at a few position groups with less than top end performance which has me concerned going forward. 

 I am mildly concerned at going after Von Miller. We are crazy invested into the DL already. We can't be crazy invested into DL for the past few seasons, AND go give up a 2nd and a 3rd for a one year rental. The investment into another DE/DL would basically cost us a possible starting CB and OL next year or two OL. I wouldn't mind asking about Miller if we didn't invest a 2nd in AJE, 1st in Groot, 2nd in Basham, 1st in Oliver, and $8M in Addison.

 

A second and third for Miller would be basically admitting you hate your previous 2-3 years of major investment in your DL. 

 

 

[BearNorth]

1 hour ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

We have one of the pricier O-lines in the league this season, and our O-line is one of the worst in the league. We have to be dead last in terms of money spent vs quality of play.  

So Josh Allen basically is covering for the ineptitude of our O-Line, and still getting it done.  Too bad that doesn't factor into the MVP conversation.

 

On further review, GB, Arizona, the Bills and the Ravens all have similarly graded O-Lines.  So perhaps a good O-line is not a requirement in today's NFL?

Edited November 2, 2021 by BearNorth

[BADOLBILZ]

https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/von-miller-halloween-drama-rumors

[Bing Bong]

I've always like this Rams GM's style.

 

Seems like he's never out of win now mode.