BoccesOnTransit Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Not that it really matters, but I was surprised to see Trubisky carry out the (usually) trivial final kneel downs at the end of the game. In considering pros and cons of having the (cold) backup QB handle this duty, I couldn't think of any pros (give Josh a rest?), but I can think of a con: A fumbled snap. Wouldn't it be better for the already-warmed up starter, who has been taking handoffs from Morse all game, to handle the final duties? 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I would not think taking a few snaps for a QB with a winning record as a nfl pro would be any serious concern. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, BoccesOnTransit said: Not that it really matters, but I was surprised to see Trubisky carry out the (usually) trivial final kneel downs at the end of the game. In considering pros and cons of having the (cold) backup QB handle this duty, I couldn't think of any pros (give Josh a rest?), but I can think of a con: A fumbled snap. Wouldn't it be better for the already-warmed up starter, who has been taking handoffs from Morse all game, to handle the final duties? Wouldn't surprise me if that is a contract thingy. Maybe he gets incentives if he is in a certain number of games. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I seem to be in the minority on this, but I thought Trubisky should have come in after the score was 28-0. To your point, I agree - since they kept Josh in the game, he should have led the victory formation and taken the kneel-down snaps. Not because of the danger of a botched snap - at 35-0, who cares? - but because he earned it. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) You are trying way too hard to find something to be concerned about. I'm sure Mitch knows how to handle snaps just fine. Unless I'm mistaken, kneels count as a rush for a loss, and they didn't want to knock down Josh's decent rush stats for the game. *edit* Josh averaged 7 yards per rush on 5 carries. The 2 kneels at the end of the game losing a yard each would have brought down his average to 4.7 yards per rush. Edited September 20, 2021 by 1ManRaid 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Showcasing him for a trade. “ Look, this guy just came in the game in the fourth quarter and we wiped the floor with those Dolphins’” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoccesOnTransit Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: You are trying way too hard to find something to be concerned about. I'm sure Mitch knows how to handle snaps just fine. Unless I'm mistaken, kneels count as a rush for a loss, and they didn't want to knock down Josh's decent rush stats for the game. Hadn't considered the stats implication. Good point, especially since the game was a guaranteed win at that point (35-0). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Now we are going to micro-manage kneel down in a 35 point blowout? Unreal. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, BoccesOnTransit said: Hadn't considered the stats implication. Good point, especially since the game was a guaranteed win at that point (35-0). Speaking of guaranteed win, I wanted to see Mitch in the game after we went up 4 TDs. Maybe even 3 since our run game was working and would be able to drain the clock to minimize risk of a comeback. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, WhoTom said: I seem to be in the minority on this, but I thought Trubisky should have come in after the score was 28-0. To your point, I agree - since they kept Josh in the game, he should have led the victory formation and taken the kneel-down snaps. Not because of the danger of a botched snap - at 35-0, who cares? - but because he earned it. I agree with this, practice time for Trubisky is not a bad thing at all and keeping Allen fresh is an added bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I also just realized that for some reason in other threads I (multiple times) said we scored 7 TDs, derp. Clearly I meant 5 and was thinking of 7 points from each TD. Just emphasizing I am often an idiot and should always be taken with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blainorama5 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Kind of hard to believe this was so concerning it required a post.... 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I've gotta be honest... I just could not possibly care any less about this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, 1ManRaid said: I also just realized that for some reason in other threads I (multiple times) said we scored 7 TDs, derp. Clearly I meant 5 and was thinking of 7 points from each TD. Just emphasizing I am often an idiot and should always be taken with a grain of salt. Welcome to my club i keep on hand many grains of salt, as i unfortunately use them regularly 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Welcome to Victory Monday🤦♂️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, BoccesOnTransit said: Not that it really matters, but I was surprised to see Trubisky carry out the (usually) trivial final kneel downs at the end of the game. In considering pros and cons of having the (cold) backup QB handle this duty, I couldn't think of any pros (give Josh a rest?), but I can think of a con: A fumbled snap. Wouldn't it be better for the already-warmed up starter, who has been taking handoffs from Morse all game, to handle the final duties? If Mitch had fumbled the snap, I'm not sure any of the Dolphins' players would have bothered to pick it up. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I am more concerned that even knowing his season ending surgery, nobody has asked where Christian Wade was. 🤨🤔 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 This is just a baby step towards Trubisky becoming the starter. Trust the process…or whatever all the cool kids like to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I think that he was going in the next series no matter what, for a few handoffs. The Dolphin picking up a few first downs reduced it to a kneel down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 My primary concern is that I thought perhaps Allen was injured. Agree with the OP - it just didn't make since. Like others here, was not overly concerned, but it did seem a bit odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_in_tx Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: I seem to be in the minority on this, but I thought Trubisky should have come in after the score was 28-0. To your point, I agree - since they kept Josh in the game, he should have led the victory formation and taken the kneel-down snaps. Not because of the danger of a botched snap - at 35-0, who cares? - but because he earned it. Could this have possibly created a QB controversy if Trubisky comes in and starts dropping dimes? Not like we haven't been there before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: I seem to be in the minority on this, but I thought Trubisky should have come in after the score was 28-0. To your point, I agree - since they kept Josh in the game, he should have led the victory formation and taken the kneel-down snaps. Not because of the danger of a botched snap - at 35-0, who cares? - but because he earned it. I think Josh needs the reps. He's in a funk and needs to work some stuff out. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, BoccesOnTransit said: Not that it really matters, but I was surprised to see Trubisky carry out the (usually) trivial final kneel downs at the end of the game. In considering pros and cons of having the (cold) backup QB handle this duty, I couldn't think of any pros (give Josh a rest?), but I can think of a con: A fumbled snap. Wouldn't it be better for the already-warmed up starter, who has been taking handoffs from Morse all game, to handle the final duties? you're worried about a fumbled snap in last seconds of a 35-0 game? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Steele Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 35 point lead why does it even deserve a discussion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, BoccesOnTransit said: Not that it really matters, but I was surprised to see Trubisky carry out the (usually) trivial final kneel downs at the end of the game. In considering pros and cons of having the (cold) backup QB handle this duty, I couldn't think of any pros (give Josh a rest?), but I can think of a con: A fumbled snap. Wouldn't it be better for the already-warmed up starter, who has been taking handoffs from Morse all game, to handle the final duties? Not a concern in the least - if the team had a plan to use Mitch in victory formation- then they probably had him taking snaps before heading out - therefore I don’t think the risk was any greater. I would also rather at this point have Mitch trying to recover a fumble in victory time rather than Josh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRBills Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, WhoTom said: I seem to be in the minority on this, but I thought Trubisky should have come in after the score was 28-0. To your point, I agree - since they kept Josh in the game, he should have led the victory formation and taken the kneel-down snaps. Not because of the danger of a botched snap - at 35-0, who cares? - but because he earned it. I am a HUGE Josh Allen fan, but have you not seen his play so far this season? Im glad they didn’t pull him when we were up 28-0. He needs as much game-time practice as he can get right now *in my opinion its all in his head, and has to do with the fans/crowd noise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costrovs Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I'm pretty sure its because Josh started himself in his PPR fantasy league and he only threw for 179 yards and 2/1. So he didn't want to loose out on points by kneeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, BoccesOnTransit said: Not that it really matters, but I was surprised to see Trubisky carry out the (usually) trivial final kneel downs at the end of the game. In considering pros and cons of having the (cold) backup QB handle this duty, I couldn't think of any pros (give Josh a rest?), but I can think of a con: A fumbled snap. Wouldn't it be better for the already-warmed up starter, who has been taking handoffs from Morse all game, to handle the final duties? I suspect that would enter their thinking if they were not up by 5 possessions. A lead that big alters almost all normal game concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said: I think Josh needs the reps. He's in a funk and needs to work some stuff out. 20 minutes ago, PRBills said: I am a HUGE Josh Allen fan, but have you not seen his play so far this season? Im glad they didn’t pull him when we were up 28-0. He needs as much game-time practice as he can get right now *in my opinion its all in his head, and has to do with the fans/crowd noise Yeah, I figured they left him in so he could gain some confidence. Maybe it worked - that long throw to Diggs could have been just what the doctor ordered. I could have lived without the designed QB runs, however. Edited September 20, 2021 by WhoTom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, WhoTom said: Yeah, I figured the left him in so he could gain some confidence. Maybe it worked - that long throw to Diggs could have been just what the doctor ordered. I could have lived without the designed QB runs, however. Agreed on all counts. The great thing is Diggs isn't frustrated with him at all. He's been really supportive, it seems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, fan_in_tx said: Could this have possibly created a QB controversy if Trubisky comes in and starts dropping dimes? Not like we haven't been there before. Maybe a minor controversy among some fans, but certainly not in the locker room. Anyone who's watched Josh and Mitch over the past few years can clearly see who the better quarterback is, and it's not a close race. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, BoccesOnTransit said: Not that it really matters, but I was surprised to see Trubisky carry out the (usually) trivial final kneel downs at the end of the game. In considering pros and cons of having the (cold) backup QB handle this duty, I couldn't think of any pros (give Josh a rest?), but I can think of a con: A fumbled snap. Wouldn't it be better for the already-warmed up starter, who has been taking handoffs from Morse all game, to handle the final duties? Let the man contribute…. 1 hour ago, Jim Steele said: 35 point lead why does it even deserve a discussion! Because, Bills fans are always expecting the other shoe to drop. However, in this case the OP was looking for Trubisky to drop the shoe and the football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, WhoTom said: I seem to be in the minority on this, but I thought Trubisky should have come in after the score was 28-0. To your point, I agree - since they kept Josh in the game, he should have led the victory formation and taken the kneel-down snaps. Not because of the danger of a botched snap - at 35-0, who cares? - but because he earned it. That was brought up on the post-game show on the radio yesterday, and I agree with you, as did the radio folks. 28-0 would have been a great time to park Josh on the bench just to make sure he doesn't get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalostu2 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Maybe it kicked in a contract piece that Josh and the Bills wanted him to obtain based on his work and dedication so far. Just me speculating though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Trouble handling snaps in the victory formation? come on! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Gotta be a bonus/contract type of thing with either Allen or trubisky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, BoccesOnTransit said: Not that it really matters, but I was surprised to see Trubisky carry out the (usually) trivial final kneel downs at the end of the game. In considering pros and cons of having the (cold) backup QB handle this duty, I couldn't think of any pros (give Josh a rest?), but I can think of a con: A fumbled snap. Wouldn't it be better for the already-warmed up starter, who has been taking handoffs from Morse all game, to handle the final duties? Its 35-0 even if he hands the ball off to them intensionaly the Bills still win Besides it helps Josh's YPC 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Trouble handling snaps in the victory formation? come on! Too much pressure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Josh didn’t want the lost yardage subtracted from his rushing stats and insisted on Trubisky going in to run victory formation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 The BU's were in at most positions with just under 6 minutes left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Thought Josh should have been out of there much sooner up over 30 points Let Money Mitch clean up when we are that far ahead and avoid the possibility of something bad happening.....the Dolphins were already taking shots at him as the game went on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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