9/19//21 Week 2 Bills @ Miami Postgame Thread

[YoloinOhio]

 

[y2zipper]

On the Miami side, I definitely thought that Brissett handled the Buffalo pass rush way better than Tua did, but they really just didn't solve what Buffalo was doing on defense at all.

 

Buffalo's offense picked up in the 2nd half, mostly on the back of the running game. Scoring 3 touchdowns on 4 possessions in the is the efficiency you want, even if it doesn't always look pretty. With 33 passes and 30 runs, I appreciate the attempt at having a more balanced approach, especially when the rushing attack works to the tune it did today.

 

But the pass protection is an issue here and clearly affects the overall efficiency. The film review is going to show a few things:

 

The Bills trying to use the crossing routes against the heavy man defense that worked for them last season and the protection not holding up. Allen's passes also seemed too floaty and he was throwing off his back foot some. When the protection held up, it looked like last year. When it didn't, it looked more like 2019.

 

Defensively, it looks like a top unit so far but everything with only a 2 game sample size is a taken with a very big pile of salt.

[thurst44]

46 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

If you're not legitimately concerned about Allen then you haven't been watching the last two games.  Our defense has been great though.

I'm not "legitamitely concerned" about Allen b/c he has proven he's a great QB in the league so I'll grant him a slow start.

[nedboy7]

33 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

17 of 33 completions is not going to get it done against good teams. Allen isxstill struggling but he played better as the game went on. 

Rush the passer and pass block. Next week will be a good test for the o-line. 

 

Yes some good BS there.  Yeah next week is when we see if the O-line is NFL worthy!   Good takes bro. 

[Coffeesforclosers]

49 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

What a terrible shut out that was, man we're terrible. 🙄

 

Also Zach Moss needs a physics related nickname because that was hilarious and awesome.

 

Mossimedes.

[Warcodered]

 

[Motor26]

1 minute ago, Dan said:

Those that think this was an ugly win or whatever they’re saying are delusional. This was a complete beat down.  
 

IMO, Josh is pushing it.  He’s gotten the contract and I think it’s in his head a little that he needs to be THE playmaker.  Until he settles down, relaxes and just plays his game,

he’s going to look like he’s struggling. But a few more wins and I think he will. In no way am I concerned.  And after a 35-0 beat down... you have to really want to find things to complain about.   
 

There’s a lot of room for improvement. Lots of plays, offensively and defensively, they probably want back. And yet they shut out a divisional opponent and scored 5 offensive touchdowns, despite all the “poor” plays.  Lol. 

 

Josh wasn’t putting juice on balls he needed to today. Some underthrows and overthrows. LIke you said he just needs to settle in and just play. 

[Rousseauisnoschmo]

Just win baby.

[teef]

3 minutes ago, Motor26 said:

 

Josh wasn’t putting juice on balls he needed to today. Some underthrows and overthrows. LIke you said he just needs to settle in and just play. 

Agreed.  I think he’ll be perfectly fine, but it seemed like allen was trying too hard not to overthrow guys today. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

https://www.nfl.com/standings/
 

ummm…fix this nfl.com.

 

otherwise headlines should probably read tomorrow:

 

Dolphins tie Bills, 0-35.

 

Additionally, 3 teams tied at 1-1, but we are in first by way of tie breakers as we are the only unbeaten in the division.

Edited September 19, 2021 by dollars 2 donuts

[Bob in STL]

27 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

This defense is good.  Williams and Feliciano need to see the bench.  Imagine what this team will look like when they decide to give Allen time

Who is going to play that makes the right side better?    Williams had a pro bowl season last year, maybe you ought to give him a few games.  

[x-BillzeBubba]

 

[oldmanfan]

It is amazing we can have some negative comments after a 35-0 win.  There are fans who have passed on that lived through the late 60’s-early 70’s spinning in their graves.

[dollars 2 donuts]

1 minute ago, Bob in STL said:

Who is going to play that makes the right side better?    Williams had a pro bowl season last year, maybe you ought to give him a few games.  

 

Wyatt Teller.

 

I know, I know, but still.

[Warcodered]

Just now, oldmanfan said:

It is amazing we can have some negative comments after a 35-0 win.  There are fans who have passed on that lived through the late 60’s-early 70’s spinning in their graves.

It was the biggest shut out win since 66...the 90s Bills never had a shutout this big. 🤷‍♂️

1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

Wyatt Teller.

 

I know, I know, but still.

[ColoradoBills]

3 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

https://www.nfl.com/standings/
 

ummm…fix this nfl.com.

 

otherwise headlines should probably read tomorrow:

 

Dolphins tie Bills, 0-35.

 

Additionally, 3 teams tied at 1-1, but we are in first by way of tie breakers as we are the only unbeaten in the division.

 

I have been waiting for them to fix it.

How can the NFL Official site have 3 games as ties?

[MasterStrategist]

15 minutes ago, Simon said:

dressed but sat with an injury

Incorrect.  He played, just didn't get any targets/catches

[HappyDays]

6 minutes ago, Motor26 said:

Josh wasn’t putting juice on balls he needed to today.

 

This was definitely weird to see. I never thought I would complain about Allen not throwing the ball hard enough but I think he's overcorrecting a bit. That almost pick to McKenize is a good example. The window was there, he just needed to rifle it in. Overall he just didn't look comfortable in this game, every time he felt pressure he was throwing off his back foot.

[x-BillzeBubba]

 

[Governor]

12 minutes ago, Dan said:

Those that think this was an ugly win or whatever they’re saying are delusional. This was a complete beat down.  
 

IMO, Josh is pushing it.  He’s gotten the contract and I think it’s in his head a little that he needs to be THE playmaker.  Until he settles down, relaxes and just plays his game,

he’s going to look like he’s struggling. But a few more wins and I think he will. In no way am I concerned.  And after a 35-0 beat down... you have to really want to find things to complain about.   
 

There’s a lot of room for improvement. Lots of plays, offensively and defensively, they probably want back. And yet they shut out a divisional opponent and scored 5 offensive touchdowns, despite all the “poor” plays.  Lol. 

I’m seeing the early signs of an extremely dominant team. We’re much more balanced and I can already see it all coming together.

[dollars 2 donuts]

1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I have been waiting for them to fix it.

How can the NFL Official site have 3 games as ties?

 

right, CB?

 

fine if there are a ton of other errors, but…there aren’t and this was a double take score.

 

”oh, my bad.  I thought that game was closer in the end.”

 

 

[Governor]

5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

It is amazing we can have some negative comments after a 35-0 win.  There are fans who have passed on that lived through the late 60’s-early 70’s spinning in their graves.

I love what I’m seeing so far.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

This was definitely weird to see. I never thought I would complain about Allen not throwing the ball hard enough but I think he's overcorrecting a bit. That almost pick to McKenize is a good example. The window was there, he just needed to rifle it in. Overall he just didn't look comfortable in this game, every time he felt pressure he was throwing off his back foot.

Honestly it reminds me of last year when he had that shoulder injury and was wearing the harness for a couple games. Lack of zip. A little more of the "happy feet" in the pocket. Seriously wondering if he's got an injury we don't know about.

[mannc]

All the talent Miami has accumulated recently (on both sides of the ball) and it’s all for naught because they picked the wrong QB. (I’m also starting to question Flores’s competence.) if they had Justin Herbert, they would be a very scary team.

[Success]

Rousseau was a great draft pick.

 

[Bob in STL]

5 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

Wyatt Teller.

 

I know, I know, but still.

Stop with Wyatt Teller.  He is not on the team.  
 

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

19 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Nope. It’s not about seeing the Josh Allen light show, whatever that is.

 

Term coined by (I think) Chris Simms to describe what the NFL Next Gen passer chart looks like when Josh Allen "goes off"

 

19 minutes ago, K-9 said:

It’s about execution and this team, largely due to the 

OLine is just not firing on all cylinders yet. It’s plain to see. You can spout all the stats you want, and there have been a smattering of terrific plays, particularly effort plays, but we aren’t a polished unit so far; far from it. 
 

I’m not complaining as it’s nice to win 35 - zip when not playing your best game. We have work to do on the O side of the ball. No shame in that, especially after two games when most teams are gonna struggle for consistency. 

 

Except you are complaining.  You said "Hats off to the defense. They won this game...... Daboll, Allen and this offense look like crap. They have a lot of work to do."

 

Is yours a reasonable take that the offense isn't firing on all cylinders?  Yes.  As my post to which you're replying says, "Yes, work to be done".  But the above "look like crap" is IMO a helluva overreaction to a game where the offense scored 5 TDs, 4 of them driving at least half the field.

 

We ran 30 times for 143 yards and 3 TD.  That's not "spouting stats", that's a fact.  That's not a "smattering of plays", it's pretty durn solid for a team which "can't run"

We passed 33 times for 179 yds and 2 TD.  Again, that's not the "MVP candidate" output we expect from Allen, but it's not crap either.

 

C'mon man, it's fine to say "work to do on the O side of the ball" and I think we would all agree.  But to say the defense won the game, give no credit to the offense, and in fact to say "they look like crap" is a helluva bad take.

 

 

[Bruffalo]

Just now, mannc said:

All the talent Miami has accumulated recently (on both sides of the ball) and it’s all for naught because they picked the wrong QB. (I’m also starting to question Flores’s competence.) if they had Justin Herbert, they would be a very scary team.

If they had Fitzpatrick they'd be scarier.

[dollars 2 donuts]

1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said:

96-26

 

That's the point differential between Buffalo and Miami the last 2 games they've played. 70 freaking points!!

 

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

 

56 - 26

 

35 - 0

 

Math is fun.

 

im sorry, brother, I couldn’t help being a d***.  However, was hoping for one more score, a turnover, to bring it to 98-26.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Bruffalo said:

If they had Fitzpatrick they'd be scarier.

 

Disagree, but that might be "just me".  Fitzpatrick is an aging gunfighter who is hanging in there, but whose best days are probably in his past.

Herbert is the future, a young gun who will only get better.

[Bob in STL]

35 -0 is a great win.   Congrats to the Bills staff and players for putting last week behind them, getting back to work, and pounding a division rival on the road.  
 

was it perfect?   No.    Let get the W’s however we can and peak at the end of the season.  

[YoloinOhio]

 

[78thealltimegreat]

An ugly 35-0 win on the road in the NFL gotta love it lots of positives and a few negatives onto Washington 

[dollars 2 donuts]

2 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

Stop with Wyatt Teller.  He is not on the team.  
 

 

 

that’s where the I know, I know, but still comes from.

 

and I, as then, will still question the decision.

 

Not that you are the one saying this, Bob, but I am also tired of hearing the, “You had to give up something with Cleveland and part of that went into getting Diggs.”

 

Yeah, not buying that.  You could have traded something or someone else…always.

 

To answer the question, we have no cure for what ails this oline.

[ColoradoBills]

7 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

right, CB?

 

fine if there are a ton of other errors, but…there aren’t and this was a double take score.

 

”oh, my bad.  I thought that game was closer in the end.”

 

 

 

Has to be one crappy database to have that happen, and it still isn't fixed.

[Roundybout]

6 minutes ago, Success said:

Rousseau was a great draft pick.

 

 

Literally cannot say enough good things about him so far. What a home run of a pick. 

[billsbackto81]

2 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

56 - 26

 

35 - 0

 

Math is fun.

 

im sorry, brother, I couldn’t help being a d***.  However, was hoping for one more score, a turnover, to bring it to 98-26.

Damn it! I should've carried π to the highest power and divided it with the Pythagorean theorem. 😂

My bad! I'll get my calculator out and correct it.

[K-9]

4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Term coined by (I think) Chris Simms to describe what the NFL Next Gen passer chart looks like when Josh Allen "goes off"

 

 

Except you are complaining.  You said "Hats off to the defense. They won this game...... Daboll, Allen and this offense look like crap. They have a lot of work to do."

 

Is yours a reasonable take that the offense isn't firing on all cylinders?  Yes.  As my post to which you're replying says, "Yes, work to be done".  But the above "look like crap" is IMO a helluva overreaction to a game where the offense scored 5 TDs, 4 of them driving at least half the field.

 

We ran 30 times for 143 yards and 3 TD.  That's not "spouting stats", that's a fact.  That's not a "smattering of plays", it's pretty durn solid for a team which "can't run"

We passed 33 times for 179 yds and 2 TD.  Again, that's not the "MVP candidate" output we expect from Allen, but it's not crap either.

 

C'mon man, it's fine to say "work to do on the O side of the ball" and I think we would all agree.  But to say the defense won the game, give no credit to the offense, and in fact to say "they look like crap" is a helluva bad take.

 

 

Except I’m not complaining. I’m simply offering an honest critique of what I’ve observed thru two weeks. I couldn’t care less if you don’t like my take, but it’s been decades since I’ve “complained” about anything football. 
 

And the defense WAS the difference in this game. That was even more evident than the offense struggling to find some rhythm. 

[Green Lightning]

2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

Literally cannot say enough good things about him so far. What a home run of a pick. 

He is still raw. When he makes the leap, he's going to be all-pro and a force for years.  Great pick!

[YoloinOhio]