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Jake Kumerow… make the team or trade to GB?


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He’s a long shot IMO but if he’s not going to make it, Beane HAS to try to flip him to GB for something instead of cut him, right? Rodgers will not let this go and he’s getting what he wants now. They just traded for Randall Cobb and his terrible contract as a condition of him coming back 

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I think we could get a 3rd from GB for him.  They have to make Rodgers happy.  Otherwise, I'd have him make the team, or see if Minny wants anything for him.  Create more drama, and then let GB know they have to give a good pick for him.  

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6 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

I think we could get a 3rd from GB for him.  They have to make Rodgers happy.  Otherwise, I'd have him make the team, or see if Minny wants anything for him.  Create more drama, and then let GB know they have to give a good pick for him.  

Is this a joke? We would be lucky to get a 6th. With the depth we have he's a long shot to even make the team.

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Unless there is a player position they have excess in Bills need I can not see a trade.  

I have not looked at Green Bay's roster like I usually do but if they had a DB perhaps it might be worth trying to trade.

 

I cannot see getting any significant draft pick for him.

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38 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I think Kumerow could make it here. I think the 6th spot is most likely him or Hodgins.

I think Hodgins upside and versatility will give him the edge.  I don’t see Kumerow making this roster and he won’t last on the practice squad again, so if they could flip him for a pick I’d take that 

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I of course would rather trade him then cut him

5 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

If Kumerow is worth Aaron Rodgers throwing a hissy fit over, he has to be good enough for a spot on Bills roster. He didn’t get the moniker “Touchdown Jesus” for nothing 

Who do you cut to keep him?   Hodgins is going to end up being our Kumerow

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47 minutes ago, CSBill said:

I like Jake, he’s sort of a hybrid TE / WR type, gives the QB a lot of options. And he is also a valuable Special Teams player. You know how McBean and company love those ST’ers. 

He's a WR. He has never lined up in line at all 

 

He's just tall, but that doesn't make him a hybrid Wr/TE

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Gee.... I wonder why Rodgers didn't express dissatisfaction when Robert Foster was signed off Green Bay's practice squad last season.

 

JK has good potential and I hope the coaches have a plan for him.  If not, trade him and get what GB is willing to give up.

 

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46 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

I think Hodgins upside and versatility will give him the edge.  I don’t see Kumerow making this roster and he won’t last on the practice squad again, so if they could flip him for a pick I’d take that 

 

I need to see Hodgins do something first. He is their own pick so he has that but Kumerow contributed a bit both on offense and teams last year. Hodgins needs to ball out in camp and pre-season to make the roster IMO.

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1 hour ago, MJS said:

Well, Beane has gotten draft picks for worse players who were 100% going to get cut. It could happen.

 

Yeah but usually the reason a team makes a trade for a player likely to be cut is to make sure 100% they got him.  In this case if we were to cut him, high likelihood GB would make the best offer and Rodgers would be on the phone with him so can't see Green Bay giving up anything in a trade.

 

On the other hand if some other team wanted him could see them swooping in with a trade to grab him before Green Bay has a chance

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1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

If Kumerow is worth Aaron Rodgers throwing a hissy fit over, he has to be good enough for a spot on Bills roster. He didn’t get the moniker “Touchdown Jesus” for nothing 

 

One reason that players sometimes have success in the red zone is that the other team is focused on shutting down the “stars” and lose track of the guys further down the depth chart.  I would say that our TE room had several TDs that would fit that category last season

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

I think Kumerow could make it here. I think the 6th spot is most likely him or Hodgins.

 

Everybody is sleeping on Marquez Stevenson. He was drafted in the same round as Hodgins was last season and 99.9% of Bills fans are strangely raving about and penciling in Hodgins on the 53 while cutting Stevenson - when they've both played the same amount of snaps in the NFL.

 

I feel that Stevenson's strengths of speed and return ability are needed more in this WR core than Hodgins size and red zone ability. McKenzie has shown a proclivity for fumbling in the return game throughout his career. They generally rolled out Micah Hyde to return Punts over him. There's a reason why a specialist was drafted this season.

 

The way I see it, Marquez Stevenson, Isaiah Hodgins, and Jake Kumerow are battling for one spot. I tend to feel that Kumerow making the 53 is pretty much slim to none - short of injuries or something else unforeseen. I think they hope he'll be on our Practice Squad to call up in the event of injury. Which means GB can sign him to their 53 whenever they want anyways.

 

I'd get on the phone with them now. If you can get something for him, do it. I like Touchdown Jesus quite a bit. But if you can get an asset for someone you'll lose for nothing anyways - get ahead of the game.

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I do recall seeing rodgers throw a TD to JK in the regular season in GB.  Josh threw one to him also.  But, JK did round trip to NO last season as the Bills cut him free once.  Hodgkins really has to show he is a player though, we already know JK is.  Prediction:  Hodgkins cut and to the PS.  JK makes it to the 53.

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3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

One reason that players sometimes have success in the red zone is that the other team is focused on shutting down the “stars” and lose track of the guys further down the depth chart.  I would say that our TE room had several TDs that would fit that category last season

Yeah - to Lee Smith no less **shudder** 😉

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1 hour ago, Process said:

Is this a joke? We would be lucky to get a 6th. With the depth we have he's a long shot to even make the team.

 

kind of a joke, kind of serious.  not sure how desperate GB is to make Rodgers happy.  

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2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

He is already a cut for me to keep talent at another spot on the team

 

He's one of our core Special Teamers and was re-signed this offseason for that very reason. Not gonna happen. Especially when you consider we're already probably going to have to cut one of our other core Special Teamers in Daryl 'Bam Bam' Johnson from a pure numbers standpoint at Defensive End.

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6 minutes ago, Blainorama5 said:

Yeah - to Lee Smith no less **shudder** 😉

 

I know.  How dare Lee Smith catch TDs where some WRs got none.

1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He's one of our core Special Teamers and was re-signed this offseason for that very reason. Not gonna happen. Especially when you consider we're already probably going to have to cut one of our other core Special Teamers in Daryl 'Bam Bam' Johnson from a pure numbers standpoint at Defensive End.

 

Bills have a tradition of some big special teamers.  Mark Pike was one of my favorites and he showed up in playoff games.

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Think the guy has skill, would like to see him in the team.  Very least, PS.

 

That being said, if GB wanted him, they had a chance to grab him for free when we waived him last season.  Had to know it stuck in Rodgers craw he was released.  With the practice squad rules last year, wouldn’t have been an issue to sign him and stash him there at the very least.

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10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He's one of our core Special Teamers and was re-signed this offseason for that very reason. Not gonna happen. Especially when you consider we're already probably going to have to cut one of our other core Special Teamers in Daryl 'Bam Bam' Johnson from a pure numbers standpoint at Defensive End.

I think it will be him or Johnson.....not both

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18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Agree, but there is some film out there of Kumerow laying the lumber blocking.  He can block (for a tall skinny guy)

Its tough to find clips of just WRs blocking but we got good effort from our WRs all year

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23 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

One reason that players sometimes have success in the red zone is that the other team is focused on shutting down the “stars” and lose track of the guys further down the depth chart.  I would say that our TE room had several TDs that would fit that category last season

That was the design a lot of times. Like, almost all of Lee Smith's TD's were designed to go to him to catch the defense off guard. I remember one that had Diggs running wide open, but Allen threw it to Smith when he slipped out unnoticed because that was the design.

 

But yeah, your point is valid. Just, sometimes it isn't because the defense is covering the stars, it's because the play design purposefully targets other players.

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