YoloinOhio Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) For the nerds! Edited April 16, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterLifer Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 It's going to take me a while to figure out what all these pretty pictures mean, but thank you! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 We were below average running the ball and were really bad defending the run. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Agree 💯. Didn’t know that nickel stat interesting and explains a little bit of why our run D was very pedestrian. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I would still go ahead and draft WR if it’s BPA. I doubt that happens. We’re moving up for someone. Could it be Barmore? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: We were below average running the ball and were really bad defending the run. I would say we were bad in both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: For the nerds! Thanks for scraping the twitterverse yolo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Where's all them fools that keep telling me we aren't in nickle that often and its not a need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, DJB said: Where's all them fools that keep telling me we aren't in nickle that often and its not a need? Can never have enough DBs or WRs in this league 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Can never have enough DBs or WRs in this league Agreed. I’m interested to see what the late round kid from last year can do (WR). If he can be a red zone threat it would be fantastic. That allows for DE or CB towards the top of the draft. Personally, I’m less worried about RB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: We were below average running the ball and were really bad defending the run. Very true. Equally true that we got quite a bit better running the ball as the season went along. First six games we ran for 92 YPG. And 3.81 YPC. Last ten games 117 YPG. And 4.40 YPA That is major improvement. Defending the run: First six games we allowed 131 YPG. And 4.58 YPC. Last ten games we allowed 112.6 YPG. And 4.65 YPC. That's improvement on a per game basis. The YPC got worse, though the difference is probably statistically insignificant. Being in nickel a lot undoubtedly affects that. Getting Lotulelei back should also really help with run defense, but certainly they can't look at that and say, "Well, Star's coming back, so we don't need to do anything else." That needs attention, and they're giving it attention. Edited April 16, 2021 by Thurman#1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Those charts/graphs look like that game you play at the carnival where you have to squirt water into the hole. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: We were below average running the ball and were really bad defending the run. True, but the more this is considered, the more it is run play scheming that is the actual culprit on offense, imo SM/LF get a bit stuck in their ways and lack creativity concerning the D side of this conundrum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: True, but the more this is considered, the more it is run play scheming that is the actual culprit on offense, imo SM/LF get a bit stuck in their ways and lack creativity concerning the D side of this conundrum. I think on defense it’s mostly a case of size especially in the back 7. We have 5 DB’s on the field 91% of the time and those 5 DB’s are all 200 lbs or less. Milano is a good LB but he’s on the smaller side as well. Edmunds has the size but his calling card is coverage. It would be great if we could get a bigger guy on the field in place of one of the 5 smaller DB’s and not sacrifice coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 49 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Very true. Equally true that we got quite a bit better running the ball as the season went along. First six games we ran for 92 YPG. And 3.81 YPC. Last ten games 117 YPG. And 4.40 YPA That is major improvement. Defending the run: First six games we allowed 131 YPG. And 4.58 YPC. Last ten games we allowed 112.6 YPG. And 4.65 YPC. That's improvement on a per game basis. The YPC got worse, though the difference is probably statistically insignificant. Being in nickel a lot undoubtedly affects that. Getting Lotulelei back should also really help with run defense, but certainly they can't look at that and say, "Well, Star's coming back, so we don't need to do anything else." That needs attention, and they're giving it attention. Those defensive stats show YPC going up slightly (probably unchanged from a statistically meaningful standpoint). YPG went down but that’s solely because teams weren’t running the ball as much - 4 or 5 fewer times per game. Looking at the scores of our games it’s pretty obvious why. 4-2 record over the first six games with only one one two score win. 9-1 over the last 10 games with a bunch of blowout wins. Teams had to pass more in those games. That’s all it was. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: I think on defense it’s mostly a case of size especially in the back 7. We have 5 DB’s on the field 91% of the time and those 5 DB’s are all 200 lbs or less. Milano is a good LB but he’s on the smaller side as well. Edmunds has the size but his calling card is coverage. It would be great if we could get a bigger guy on the field in place of one of the 5 smaller DB’s and not sacrifice coverage. Speed and size is a difficult get at LB for us it appears, that would certainly help, better scheming/personnel usage would also help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Speed and size is a difficult get at LB for us it appears, that would certainly help, better scheming/personnel usage would also help. Doesn’t have to be an LB. Replacing 5’11”/190 lb’s with 6’1”/210lb’s can make a difference too. JOK would be ideal, but there’s plenty of DB’s in this draft who’d probably get significant playing time immediately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I thought it said Warren Sapp. I was like, this man has come a long way! 😆 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 we need an improvement in our run game, duh, and a BIG improvement stopping big runs. given we were the best in the nfl at stopping big passes, a pass rush would help obv, but we need some players in the gut more than anything. 1t and maybe a a DE who can bang (that guy we got w the african name could be that, i hope so anyhow). beyond that some combo of rb/te/og might get our run game going a little bit. after having rewatched the kc game (groan) one more weapon who was actually healthy on O (TE or RB woulda been ideal) and if we stop 2 of those break away runs, we absolutely have a shot in the game. when i saw it live it felt like we were dead after 4 drives, but in reality, a couple small differences woulda put us over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 47 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Speed and size is a difficult get at LB for us it appears, that would certainly help, better scheming/personnel usage would also help. Zaven Collins cures all ailments here 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I think the quickest way to fix this team is by revamping the DL. Would like to see 3-4 linemen drafted. Could always use another corner as well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 3 hours ago, The Governor said: I would still go ahead and draft WR if it’s BPA. I doubt that happens. We’re moving up for someone. Could it be Barmore? Emmanuel Sanders is on a 1 yr deal. Gonna need his replacement. Diggs helped recruit him knowing he needed someone to help on the other side. Not really feeling Barmore 3 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: I think the quickest way to fix this team is by revamping the DL. Would like to see 3-4 linemen drafted. Could always use another corner as well. I agree with this. I’d draft 2 late, but I think adding Geno Atkins would help tremendously. Bills really lacked penetration in the interior of the line 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I thought this was maybe the most interesting Tweet by Sharp (the second one, about the last 5 Super Bowl champions). Didn't see it posted here yet: 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 DE, CB, Big Nickel, DT are all needs 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, ßookie_tech said: I thought it said Warren Sapp. I was like, this man has come a long way! 😆 Wow, I totally thought the same thing and kept thinking it until you posted this. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 35 minutes ago, Logic said: I thought this was maybe the most interesting Tweet by Sharp (the second one, about the last 5 Super Bowl champions). Didn't see it posted here yet: Ohh Mike Schopp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: DE, CB, Big Nickel, DT are all needs This is all I really want from this draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 minute ago, LEBills said: Ohh Mike Schopp I’m assuming he is only looking at this from a fantasy point of view. He’s obsessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m assuming he is only looking at this from a fantasy point of view. He’s obsessed. I like Warren Sharps posts, kinda reinforces what we saw watching games last year. Schopp is just so predictable lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 37 minutes ago, Logic said: I thought this was maybe the most interesting Tweet by Sharp (the second one, about the last 5 Super Bowl champions). Didn't see it posted here yet: I agree on that for sure. I do think an improved running game will balance out and help the passing game, though. I would look at any added talent to the RB group as a potential offensive weapon, not a guy we will hand the ball of to a ton. Someone good at route running, receiving, pass blocking, and has the threat of speed on the perimeter. That may end up just being Breida. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 4 hours ago, DJB said: Where's all them fools that keep telling me we aren't in nickle that often and its not a need? They exist? Nickel is by far the most used formation in the league. It's over 60% while 3-4/4-3 "Base" formations are under 30% 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: They exist? Nickel is by far the most used formation in the league. It's over 60% while 3-4/4-3 "Base" formations are under 30% So basically this means that DL and DB is a more important position for us than LB. Milano, Edmunds and Klein are solid starting LBs in this league, so if we draft defense, LB should be on the back burner. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: So basically this means that DL and DB is a more important position for us than LB. Milano, Edmunds and Klein are solid starting LBs in this league, so if we draft defense, LB should be on the back burner. Like I've been saying all offseason and argued with many on here...the big nickle is a huge priority and I think an early round target in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Paul Costa said: Agree 💯. Didn’t know that nickel stat interesting and explains a little bit of why our run D was very pedestrian. Yeah, but this isn’t ‘17/‘18. Turrod is long gone. Our Offense puts up 30 pts/game now. If opponents want to run the ball, let ‘em! It’s a near guaranteed W. Not sure if OP includes pressure from DBs/blitz, but sure, another pass rusher is ideal. Otherwise, assuming Star can still out play Horrible Harry, let ‘em run all day. Even with this game plan vs KC at home, we were in it til late because it kept the clock moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 6 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: We were below average running the ball and were really bad defending the run. Yes. I'll post my "broken record" comment here that I have been saying all year. The Bills worked on Josh Allen and the passing game almost exclusively last camp. It was also an "abridged" camp. It stands to reason that the running game suffered both offensively and defensively because of it. I am certain that it will be addressed both resource wise and training wise this summer. How much success will come of it can only be realized after the season starts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Need. lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I wonder in Coach Sean would consider running two separate Nickels? a TJ24 Nickel and a Big Nickel? Taron is actually no slouch against the run. I probably think too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 5 hours ago, ßookie_tech said: I thought it said Warren Sapp. I was like, this man has come a long way! 😆 I thought the same thing - dude's analytical skills took a bigger jump than Allen's QB skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Yeah, but this isn’t ‘17/‘18. Turrod is long gone. Our Offense puts up 30 pts/game now. If opponents want to run the ball, let ‘em! It’s a near guaranteed W. Not sure if OP includes pressure from DBs/blitz, but sure, another pass rusher is ideal. Otherwise, assuming Star can still out play Horrible Harry, let ‘em run all day. Even with this game plan vs KC at home, we were in it til late because it kept the clock moving. Solid point. If we continue to dominate on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Bears are shopping their pick. Here we come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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