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How much does he get paid for being on the practice squad? 

 

Maybe it's a nice payday and a chance to live his dream. He's an NFL player, regardless of whether he is on the active roster or the practice squad. 

 

I checked Spotrac but it's all over the place with his contracts. It looks like Wade has at least made $200,000+ over 2 years in the program, plus he is in the NFL.

 

 

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8 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

After he clears waivers.  He is not automatically assigned to the PS Exemption part from what I understand he still has to clear waivers first.

 

If you're right, it makes this better.  I'll hold off until then.  If he does clear waivers, and the Bills designate him again, that will be three years running that the Bills had him exclusively without playing him.  For CWade's sake, if the Bills don't put him on the 53, I hope he gets picked up.

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11 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

How is it any way a positive for CWade to be indentured to the Bills for a third year?  The man should have a chance to play for a team that wants him.  This is just so wrong.

 

Well, worse case scenario is he stays in the US with his hot girlfriend/fiancé and makes 130K or so.

 

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13 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

If you're right, it makes this better.  I'll hold off until then.  If he does clear waivers, and the Bills designate him again, that will be three years running that the Bills had him exclusively without playing him.  For CWade's sake, if the Bills don't put him on the 53, I hope he gets picked up.


 

Why?  Maybe he would prefer to stay with the Bills - it has been his choice so far.

 

Here is the roster regulations fitting the IPP (pathways program):

 

Roster regulations

The NFL has specific regulations for players that sign through the IPP. The teams to which each IPP player is assigned are allowed 91 players[7] on their off-season rosters, one more than those teams that are not participating in the IPP that year. At the point when these rosters need to be cut to 53 (at the end of pre-season), the participating teams must decide the status of their IPP players.[8][9][10]

First, the team can keep their IPP player on their 53-man roster. If they waive the player, he goes through the NFL's waiver system, which allows him to be claimed by another team. If he clears waivers, the team can sign the player to their practice squad. If they do, they may elect to take an exemption for the IPP player, giving them an extra spot on their practice squad. If they utilize the exemption, that player cannot be signed to the active roster of any team during the season. If the exemption is declined, the player is treated like any other practice squad player, and can be promoted to a team's active roster. If the player chooses to sign with a team other than the one to which he was assigned, that team may not claim the exemption.”

 

 

It covers the options: making the 53, getting cut and being signed by other teams through the waiver process, getting signed to the regular PS or the exempt PS, it even covers the player declining the exemption.

 

The process is entirely up to the Bills and Wade and if Wade feels it is in his best interest to stay on the Bills and be exempt then that is a choice he has.  We should not feel bad for him.

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12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Prior to this extension, Wade was not going to have an exemption and would have had to earn a roster spot to remain with the team. He could have also been cut and signed to PS but under normal PS rules. 


letting them stash him might be making it harder for him to stick for real at some point. Dude has to make the jump sooner rather than later.

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9 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:


 

Why?  Maybe he would prefer to stay with the Bills - it has been his choice so far.

 

Here is the roster regulations fitting the IPP (pathways program):

 

Roster regulations

The NFL has specific regulations for players that sign through the IPP. The teams to which each IPP player is assigned are allowed 91 players[7] on their off-season rosters, one more than those teams that are not participating in the IPP that year. At the point when these rosters need to be cut to 53 (at the end of pre-season), the participating teams must decide the status of their IPP players.[8][9][10]

First, the team can keep their IPP player on their 53-man roster. If they waive the player, he goes through the NFL's waiver system, which allows him to be claimed by another team. If he clears waivers, the team can sign the player to their practice squad. If they do, they may elect to take an exemption for the IPP player, giving them an extra spot on their practice squad. If they utilize the exemption, that player cannot be signed to the active roster of any team during the season. If the exemption is declined, the player is treated like any other practice squad player, and can be promoted to a team's active roster. If the player chooses to sign with a team other than the one to which he was assigned, that team may not claim the exemption.”

 

 

It covers the options: making the 53, getting cut and being signed by other teams through the waiver process, getting signed to the regular PS or the exempt PS, it even covers the player declining the exemption.

 

The process is entirely up to the Bills and Wade and if Wade feels it is in his best interest to stay on the Bills and be exempt then that is a choice he has.  We should not feel bad for him.

He does get a choice. He makes the roster or cut. Bills will put him on the PS with the exemption yet again. He will not be playing football this year unless he makes the team outright. 

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letting them stash him might be making it harder for him to stick for real at some point. Dude has to make the jump sooner rather than later.

If he would have thought he was ready. He could have left the IPP program at the end of last season. 


and for those that think being shut down again this year is unfair to him. Let me ask what is the % of players from the IPP that actually are still on teams 53 man rosters?  Sitting on PS learning the game making 6 figures for 3 years is more than he would have ever seen in the UK. 

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12 hours ago, NewEra said:

Could be...... or maybe another team could sign him and use him?  Now, it’s pretty much guaranteed he’ll be on the PS all year, not play and won’t have a chance to play for another team.....unless he beats out brieda, motor or Jones, which I doubt.  
 

hopefully McB gives the kid the option of hanging out on the ps or giving him a chance to catch on elsewhere and decide his own fate.  He’s not a kid in RB years 
 

 

Other teams can sign him off of our PS. They just have to add him to their active roster of they do. (I believe)

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Does this do anything for Wade, outside of him getting paid a few hundred thousand dollars a year to workout? Unless he is actually developing requisite skills to actually make the 53, which it doesn’t appear so at present, he is still trapped on the PS. For him it’s like being a kid getting paid to go to football camp, it is an excellent gig imo, 👍

 

 

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11 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Other teams can sign him off of our PS. They just have to add him to their active roster of they do. (I believe)

Not if he is kept under the exemption, he can neither play nor be poached by another team. 

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13 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Also just sitting on the PS he is making more than he ever did at his lower level Rugby from the UK. 

 

Wow...what an ignorant statement. He was a star in "lower level" Rugby and made waaay more over there doing that. He took a paycut to come here. Just because Rugby isn't big in America...doesn't mean it isn't way bigger than the NFL in the UK.....cause it is!

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11 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Other teams can sign him off of our PS. They just have to add him to their active roster of they do. (I believe)

That was going to be the case but they extended the exemption eligibility another year because of Covid impacting the preseason last year. So if the bills sign him to the PS again with the exemption, he can’t sign with or play for anyone. They do have the choice to not use the exemption. Of course, he also has the choice not to sign with their PS at all. 

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On 3/26/2021 at 8:34 AM, NewEra said:

hopefully McB gives the kid the option of hanging out on the ps or giving him a chance to catch on elsewhere and decide his own fate.  He’s not a kid in RB years 

Don’t RB years presuppose that he’s seen the type of wear and tear that comes with the position? If he hasn’t played the position he shouldn’t have the wear and tear, though admittedly I don’t know enough about rugby to know what kind of long term physical toll it takes.
 

While he’s clearly an exception, Fred Jackson was almost 27 before he started a game in the NFL, and then he played for 9 years. 

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24 minutes ago, StHustle said:

 

Wow...what an ignorant statement. He was a star in "lower level" Rugby and made waaay more over there doing that. He took a paycut to come here. Just because Rugby isn't big in America...doesn't mean it isn't way bigger than the NFL in the UK.....cause it is!

Nope he was lower level Rugby. I have talked to many friends about him. Never made the National League and was part of their lower level teams. So yeah he is making more money now. 

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2 hours ago, StHustle said:

 

Wow...what an ignorant statement. He was a star in "lower level" Rugby and made waaay more over there doing that. He took a paycut to come here. Just because Rugby isn't big in America...doesn't mean it isn't way bigger than the NFL in the UK.....cause it is!

 

Guessing whoever that was you responded to doesn’t care, but still..  Wade played for Wasps in the Premiership.  For those who don’t understand a word of that, Wasps are a premier league team from Coventry England. To describe Wade in relation to an NFL player,  he was the rugby equivalent of Shady McCoy in the top Rugby league in the UK. He made probably 400k a year.  He also turned down an offer from the Leicester Tigers to keep trying with the Bills. 

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People upset about this should look at it this way:

 

Would you rather have him on the Exempt PS list again or off the team completely? His best case scenario IMO was earning his way on the Practice Squad, unexempt this time.

 

And even that seemed like a longshot when you consider Antonio Williams is above him on the Practice Squad, they brought in Devonta Freeman down the stretch last year so that even *Antonio* didn't see the field, we signed Breida, and we're almost guaranteed to Draft a RB somewhere between Rounds 1 and 7 (and a later Round pick could end up on the Practice Squad as well). 

 

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On 3/26/2021 at 6:52 AM, YoloinOhio said:

 

this is bad news for Wade. Now he may be ineligible all year again. How many years does a team need to see of a player before they know it is over. At Wades age two may have been limit. In Wades eyes maybe he wants team to make a decision or he moves on. Now team may try to stash him again in the Int' program.

 

Maybe team wants to bring in other now and stop teasing Wade. Might be time for him to return to rubgy. Even though he says he is retired for good from that sport.

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36 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

People upset about this should look at it this way:

 

Would you rather have him on the Exempt PS list again or off the team completely? His best case scenario IMO was earning his way on the Practice Squad, unexempt this time.

 

And even that seemed like a longshot when you consider Antonio Williams is above him on the Practice Squad, they brought in Devonta Freeman down the stretch last year so that even *Antonio* didn't see the field, we signed Breida, and we're almost guaranteed to Draft a RB somewhere between Rounds 1 and 7 (and a later Round pick could end up on the Practice Squad as well). 

 


I don’t think anyone’s upset. I’m fine with the bills having essentially zero cost associated with controlling an extra piece of talent... But on some level I think you cycle new guys into the opportunity based on what the program is.
 

the dude turns 30 this off-season. If he sticks in the program the full year again we are talking about a 31 year old running back with zero Nfl snaps. I’m not sure that’s a great success even in the best case of competing for a roster spot

 

but maybe a younger guy could parlay the opportunity into a bit more of a career instead of a fun jaunt working out overseas for decent money.

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On 3/26/2021 at 8:34 AM, Freddie's Dead said:

How is it any way a positive for CWade to be indentured to the Bills for a third year?  The man should have a chance to play for a team that wants him.  This is just so wrong.

Nobody forced him to enter the program.  He could have come  to the States on his own. But he wouldn't have even gotten as far as the practice squad. Oh, you have also heard about contracts and collective bargaining etc? 

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On 3/27/2021 at 3:47 PM, cba fan said:

this is bad news for Wade. Now he may be ineligible all year again. How many years does a team need to see of a player before they know it is over. At Wades age two may have been limit. In Wades eyes maybe he wants team to make a decision or he moves on. Now team may try to stash him again in the Int' program.

 

Maybe team wants to bring in other now and stop teasing Wade. Might be time for him to return to rubgy. Even though he says he is retired for good from that sport.

He only becomes ineligible if he agrees to it. I can't understand why so many people don't get that.

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On 3/28/2021 at 11:29 PM, Tuco said:

He only becomes ineligible if he agrees to it. I can't understand why so many people don't get that.

Why do you not understand the bolded point? 

 

That is not how program has ever been described. Unless you are saying like any player you can walk away from football at any time. Or you are going with a player telling a team they do not want to go on the Int pathway exempt list and team does the honorable thing granting him his release via waivers. Which I think most teams would do for this situation. Bill Belicheck evil emperor maybe being the exception.
 

 

?? https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2021/4/1/22360642/buffalo-bills-running-back-christian-wade-granted-third-exemption-year-international-pathway-program

 

"WGR 550 Bills reporter Sal Capaccio tweeted the news last week, noting that Wade is now essentially “in the exact situation he’s been the last two years.” If Wade does not make Buffalo’s regular-season roster, the Bills can designate him as a protected player on their practice squad, which would have two implications: the team would be unable to call him up to the active roster for the duration of the 2021 season and other teams would be unable to claim Wade for their regular-season rosters."

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49 minutes ago, cba fan said:

Why do you not understand the bolded point? 

 

That is not how program has ever been described. Unless you are saying like any player you can walk away from football at any time. Or you are going with a player telling a team they do not want to go on the Int pathway exempt list and team does the honorable thing granting him his release. Which I think most teams would do for this situation. Bill Belicheck evil emperor maybe being the exception.
 

 

?? https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2021/4/1/22360642/buffalo-bills-running-back-christian-wade-granted-third-exemption-year-international-pathway-program

 

"WGR 550 Bills reporter Sal Capaccio tweeted the news last week, noting that Wade is now essentially “in the exact situation he’s been the last two years.” If Wade does not make Buffalo’s regular-season roster, the Bills can designate him as a protected player on their practice squad, which would have two implications: the team would be unable to call him up to the active roster for the duration of the 2021 season and other teams would be unable to claim Wade for their regular-season rosters."


 

Sal is 100% correct, but because it is a tweet with limited space for explanation- that is 1 option for Wade.  I will again go through every scenario that I am aware of.

 

First - Wade signed a futures contract with Buffalo at the end of last season to come back and try again to make the roster.  I have no idea if the thought of a third year was presented or not, but either way that has little impact except allowing the Bills to have 91 in camp.  He could of chose not to sign and become a FA then to try and find a new team.  He chose to stay with Buffalo.

 

Wade will get the same opportunity to make the roster that he has the last couple of years: showing up in training camp and hopefully this year preseason games.  If he performs well enough he can make the Bills roster straight out of preseason (very limited chance in my mind).

 

If he fails to make the roster out of training camp - he along with every other player that doesn’t make it goes through Waivers.  This is his opportunity to be signed by every other team with no compensation.  He is a FA.  Teams could sign him outright to their active roster or approach the agent that he might be considered for a PS spot.

 

Once he clears waivers - the Bills have a choice - they can offer him a regular PS roster spot and he would be free to get called up (NE used this with their exempt player 2 years ago).  Wade can then sign that contract and he is a plain PS player - free to be called up and free to be poached.

 

If the Bills feel he still is not ready - they can offer him the IPP exempt PS spot where he is protected from call ups to the active roster, but he also can not be poached (the scenario mentioned by Sal).  This is the most likely scenario and the one that Sal has stated he believe will be used with Wade again this year.
 

Wade has a choice as each of these is a contracted position - he has to agree to the contract or he can become an unsigned FA.  The problem is that Wade will be making this choice at a point that about 1200 other players have just been cut.  Wade and his agent would have to decide - do they think someone that let him pass on waivers would be willing to sign him to their PS and could he pick up a different offense quickly enough. 
 

The pay between the 2 would not necessarily be different, but he would be going to a different team with a new playbook and terminology- so he would have to determine can I learn it enough to get a call up - or will I be here until I am cut.

 

My best guess is that he trusts what Beane and McD are building and what they talk about and he is happy as a part of this team.  My guess is he is still awfully raw and his best and safest course is to be exempted again.  It guarantees him a spot for the entire season. 
 

The problem is people act like Wade has no say and no control - he does the choices are limited and deciding to not take the exempt position may mean his football career is done, but he has more choices than players 80-90 have as they get cut and are done - no other options.

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On 3/26/2021 at 8:34 AM, Freddie's Dead said:

How is it any way a positive for CWade to be indentured to the Bills for a third year?  The man should have a chance to play for a team that wants him.  This is just so wrong.


Use of the term “indentured” might get you “doxed” even though it was not used in a way they would disagree with if they understood it, they’ll still make you leave the state (sorry it’s Saturday at 10:27 pm, I’m a little “out of sorts”).  And, I’m watching “The Ten Commandments”!! 🙏

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4 hours ago, cba fan said:

Why do you not understand the bolded point? 

 

That is not how program has ever been described. Unless you are saying like any player you can walk away from football at any time. Or you are going with a player telling a team they do not want to go on the Int pathway exempt list and team does the honorable thing granting him his release via waivers. Which I think most teams would do for this situation. Bill Belicheck evil emperor maybe being the exception.
 

 

?? https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2021/4/1/22360642/buffalo-bills-running-back-christian-wade-granted-third-exemption-year-international-pathway-program

 

"WGR 550 Bills reporter Sal Capaccio tweeted the news last week, noting that Wade is now essentially “in the exact situation he’s been the last two years.” If Wade does not make Buffalo’s regular-season roster, the Bills can designate him as a protected player on their practice squad, which would have two implications: the team would be unable to call him up to the active roster for the duration of the 2021 season and other teams would be unable to claim Wade for their regular-season rosters."

 

Just as Rochesterfan described above, the part about being "assigned" with the IPP exemption is an OPTION available if both Wade and the Bills agree to it. And yes, that is the exact situation Wade has been the last 2 years. But, again, as Rochesterfan described, it's not an indentured servant thing. And I prefaced my earlier post that I know it's partly the fault of guys like Sal who print things the way they do. But nobody is holding Christian Wade back. Again-

 

1 - Wade is currently under contract, just like any other player, for the minimum of $660,000 per year. This contract became effective on March 17th, but was actually signed by Wade back in January. The only difference between Wade and any other player right now is, since the league extended his IPP eligibility, he can once again be on the Bills roster as a 91st player instead of the regular 90.

 

2 - If Wade doesn't make the 53 man roster, he gets cut and goes on waivers, just like any other player, and just like he was last year and the year before. There is no "assigning" him to the practice squad without going through waivers first. Every player signed to any practice squad - including Wade - is an unrestricted free agent before being signed to any practice squad.

 

3 - If Wade clear waivers without being claimed (just like he has the last 2 years), he is then free to continue to be an unrestricted free agent. He is free to sign with any team's roster or any team's regular practice squad, including Buffalo's, if they were to offer it to him.

 

4 - If no team claims Wade on waivers, and no team (including Buffalo) wishes to sign Wade to their roster or regular practice squad, the Bills are allowed, by virtue of the NFL's IPP program's special practice squad exemption, to SIGN Wade to their practice squad as an exempted IPP player. At that point, and only at that point, does Wade become ineligible to be called up or signed by another team throughout the season. This exemption is normally good for 2 seasons, but since there was no preseason last year so no chance for Wade and the other IPP players around the league to get much exposure to game situations, the league extended their above exemption for a 3rd year.  If both Wade and the Bills CHOOSE this option, then Wade will once again be ineligible to be called up or signed to another team - just like he was the last 2 years when, after not being claimed on waivers or having accepted any team's regular practice squad's offer (if any was offered, not likely), Wade chose to sign onto the Bills practice squad as the designated IPP player and accepting it's limitations.

 

I don't care how it's been described, that's how it is. In fact I prefaced my original post by saying I know most writers like Sal don't do a good enough job of describing the actual situation. Regardless, nobody is holding Wade back from going to another team by "assinging" him to the practice squad as an IPP player without his consent. Wade can only be "assigned" as such by mutual agreement. And that option for such agreement has been extended by the league to the Bills and Wade for a 3rd year - meaning yes, he's in the same situation he was the last 2 years.

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On 4/4/2021 at 1:39 AM, Tuco said:

 

Just as Rochesterfan described above, the part about being "assigned" with the IPP exemption is an OPTION available if both Wade and the Bills agree to it. And yes, that is the exact situation Wade has been the last 2 years. But, again, as Rochesterfan described, it's not an indentured servant thing. And I prefaced my earlier post that I know it's partly the fault of guys like Sal who print things the way they do. But nobody is holding Christian Wade back. Again-

 

1 - Wade is currently under contract, just like any other player, for the minimum of $660,000 per year. This contract became effective on March 17th, but was actually signed by Wade back in January. The only difference between Wade and any other player right now is, since the league extended his IPP eligibility, he can once again be on the Bills roster as a 91st player instead of the regular 90.

 

2 - If Wade doesn't make the 53 man roster, he gets cut and goes on waivers, just like any other player, and just like he was last year and the year before. There is no "assigning" him to the practice squad without going through waivers first. Every player signed to any practice squad - including Wade - is an unrestricted free agent before being signed to any practice squad.

 

3 - If Wade clear waivers without being claimed (just like he has the last 2 years), he is then free to continue to be an unrestricted free agent. He is free to sign with any team's roster or any team's regular practice squad, including Buffalo's, if they were to offer it to him.

 

4 - If no team claims Wade on waivers, and no team (including Buffalo) wishes to sign Wade to their roster or regular practice squad, the Bills are allowed, by virtue of the NFL's IPP program's special practice squad exemption, to SIGN Wade to their practice squad as an exempted IPP player. At that point, and only at that point, does Wade become ineligible to be called up or signed by another team throughout the season. This exemption is normally good for 2 seasons, but since there was no preseason last year so no chance for Wade and the other IPP players around the league to get much exposure to game situations, the league extended their above exemption for a 3rd year.  If both Wade and the Bills CHOOSE this option, then Wade will once again be ineligible to be called up or signed to another team - just like he was the last 2 years when, after not being claimed on waivers or having accepted any team's regular practice squad's offer (if any was offered, not likely), Wade chose to sign onto the Bills practice squad as the designated IPP player and accepting it's limitations.

 

I don't care how it's been described, that's how it is. In fact I prefaced my original post by saying I know most writers like Sal don't do a good enough job of describing the actual situation. Regardless, nobody is holding Wade back from going to another team by "assinging" him to the practice squad as an IPP player without his consent. Wade can only be "assigned" as such by mutual agreement. And that option for such agreement has been extended by the league to the Bills and Wade for a 3rd year - meaning yes, he's in the same situation he was the last 2 years.

ty Tuco and Rochesterfan.....yes this clears it up for me. Sal always left out detail. Sorry i made you two type all that but dam i could not find that on line anywhere.

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2 minutes ago, cba fan said:

ty Tuco and Rochesterfan.....yes this clears it up for me. Sal always left out detail. Sorry i made you two type all that but dam i could not find that on line anywhere.


 

It is no problem and I know Sal knows all of this as he has talked about it on his various WGR duties.  The issue tends to be space for context.  It takes more than a simple Twitter box to explain - especially with context.

 

I do feel for Wade because he seems like a very talented and fun guy and I would love to see more of him, but the NFL (especially on a Super Bowl contender) can be heartless and there is just so much more to being a RB (or any position) than can be learned in 1 preseason.

 

His age now starts to catch up, but it is obvious that his teammates love and respect him and even though he may never get to play a true NFL down - he got to spend time with a bunch of teammates that make the entire experience.  He can bring that back to the UK if he can’t go further, but at least now he has some more time to learn.

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On 3/27/2021 at 3:13 PM, BillsFanForever19 said:

People upset about this should look at it this way:

 

Would you rather have him on the Exempt PS list again or off the team completely? His best case scenario IMO was earning his way on the Practice Squad, unexempt this time.

 

And even that seemed like a longshot when you consider Antonio Williams is above him on the Practice Squad, they brought in Devonta Freeman down the stretch last year so that even *Antonio* didn't see the field, we signed Breida, and we're almost guaranteed to Draft a RB somewhere between Rounds 1 and 7 (and a later Round pick could end up on the Practice Squad as well). 

 

 

How likely is it at 30 or 31 when the season starts that Wade sees any action in the NFL when players are typically falling off at that position?

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1 minute ago, Big Turk said:

 

How likely is it at 30 or 31 when the season starts that Wade sees any action in the NFL when players are typically falling off at that position?

 

It's extremely unlikely that he ever does. IMO had they not extended the pathway program - this would have been it for him. I know he's an awesome story and he had a couple good runs in the Pre-Season a couple seasons ago. But let's be honest here - if the Bills really saw something in him - his career would have taken the Efe Obada path instead of the path he's on now.

 

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