Malazan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I'm glad this long, national nightmare is finally over. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: I'm glad this long, national nightmare is finally over. It never ends. but I mean that in the nicest manner possible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 It seems like we are keeping key players in key positions with a light duty FA and build with Depth in draft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Smart. Let him and Dane battle it out for CB2 Edited March 17, 2021 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Rock solid human being and a good corner, albeit with lulls. Glad he is still with the team. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark92 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Beane is doing exactly what he told us he would do. Draft and resign our own. Free Agents only when they fit the system and can improve what we have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Was hoping for someone better at CB2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Meh..... Depth, nothing more. Need an upgrade at CB2 Except that the meh, depth, need an upgrade, guy wins the CB2 position battle every year... put that in your pipe and smoke it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Wallace gets unfairly maligned. Being the number 2 CB when no one throws near Tre, is probably one of the hardest jobs on the team. They also don’t often help him out with the coverage. He always plays hard and with good technique— just seems to be a step slow when he gets beat. For a #2 CB, we could do a lot worse. 4 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I'm hoping it was less than the tender, I don't mind him back but still want to improve CB2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Excellent. One less hole. Now just find TE#2 and take a pause until the draft. If they find a TE#2 they can draft 4 defenders, a RB, and and OT in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Also this means the yearly hit likely lower than 2.1M. Otherwise they would have just tendered his RFA offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 With everyone back it looks like Beane is going to pass on the Draft this year. When the Commissioner asks the Bills table is gonna say “we’re good”....and the commish will reply “yes, you are”! 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: Excellent. One less hole. Now just find TE#2 and take a pause until the draft. If they find a TE#2 they can draft 4 defenders, a RB, and and OT in the draft. We have a TE2 in Knox, we lack a TE1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mark92 said: Beane is doing exactly what he told us he would do. Draft and resign our own. Free Agents only when they fit the system and can improve what we have. Feliciano and Williams were free agent signings not draft picks. They were not drafted by the Bills. Wallace was a UDFA not a draft pick. So only the Milano signing really fits your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Not a fan. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: We have a TE2 in Knox, we lack a TE1. I can't defend his production to date, but there is no TE available that is as good as Knox. He's the best prospect at TE Bills have had in decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: Wallace gets unfairly maligned. Being the number 2 CB when no one throws near Tre, is probably one of the hardest jobs on the team. They also don’t often help him out with the coverage. He always plays hard and with good technique— just seems to be a step slow when he gets beat. For a #2 CB, we could do a lot worse. I think that’s well said. In saying that, I still hope the bills can find an upgrade over Levi. Draft a CB day one or 2 and hope he takes the reigns. While Levi is a serviceable player and plays hard, he’s still a mediocre CB2 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: I can't defend his production to date, but there is no TE available that is as good as Knox. He's the best prospect at TE Bills have had in decades. The most dangerous word in sports is potential, I don't want to be in TE purgatory with Knox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: Not a fan. Shocker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Ok which one of you did this? 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, NewEra said: Best case scenario is Levi being our 5th corner. Good kid. We could do worse. Too bad he can’t play man worth a dam well I kept him around in madden and he is an 88 overall in 2025, so there's hope. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: It seems like we are keeping key players in key positions with a light duty FA and build with Depth in draft I have been critical of Wallace, but this is a move you make all day. I haven’t seen numbers yet. But if he’s in the $2-2.5M range, I would even consider pushing it to 3 and tack on a few years. If he gets better, great, you have a solid CB2 on a dirt cheap deal for 3 years. If he stays the same, he’s just depth and is paid like depth. Don’t create holes unless you have to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Good depth, shouldn't be starting. If the Bills don't add anyone else, I'd prefer to see Dane Jackson start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 If Wallace is the 11th best starter on D then the D will be pretty good. And probably will have significant competition for the starting spot. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Nice depth move, like the fact they were able to keep him and tender Ike. Wish they kept Bojo too but you got to make cuts somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: There was/still are a ***** ton of Edge rushers available that can def improve what we have... but what about Watkins being traded, just busting you 👍, remember those decisions aren’t made by dumb azsez fans like us, people who see the whole picture and need to attend to all aspects of what it takes to make a team successful make those decisions, any one of us morons can in a vacuum pick a better option, but there is a lot more to these selections than what fans know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwhit34 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) If Wallace is the 11th best starter on D then the D will be pretty good. He probably will have significant competition for the starting spot. This also means that the Bills have all 11 starters back on D plus Taron Johnson the nickel (or AJ Klein as 3rd LB) so top 12 are all back, 9 of 11 on offense, with #10 Boettger tendered. Only John Brown is gone and they get potential starters Cody Ford and Star (on D of course) back from injury and opt out, respectively. In the salary cap era that has to be extremely rare. Edited March 18, 2021 by jwhit34 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: well I kept him around in madden and he is an 88 overall in 2025, so there's hope. This Wallace move used to be a weird glitch. I think they fixed it, but it was around forever. But you’d take a mid level starter like Wallace. Overpay but still cheap on like a 6 year/$4M AAV. If you can rotate him in properly and he gets better it is stupid cheap. Then trade him for a 1st or 2nd in the contact year, while you’ve already tried to do the same with somebody else. The super great glitch that has most definitely been fixed in the last Madden is the draft. You’d take a dude like Wallace, flip him for a 2nd in a contract year. Trade that second for a 1st the next year. Rinse and repeat. At one point I did this a couple seasons in a row, ended up with 7 or 8 firsts and another 2-3 seconds. The game maxed out at like 12 picks in a draft, so eventually you have to use the firsts and reset the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I hope the Bills can find a way to get Patrick Peterson. That's all I want from UFA. Get Peterson and call it a day. Wallace would provide solid outside depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I like Wallace and Johnson a lot. That said, I'd also like to upgrade CB2 and get a big nickel to help us cover TEs for when the Pats spend all day in 12 personnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Beane is doing some household chores getting a punter, Ike B. and Levi signed up. I'm waiting for one signing that gives a good chance of improvement in the DE/RB/TE/CB positions to take us to the draft! If he can do 2 I will be elated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Levi Frazier back in the mix! 14 minutes ago, Mango said: This Wallace move used to be a weird glitch. I think they fixed it, but it was around forever. But you’d take a mid level starter like Wallace. Overpay but still cheap on like a 6 year/$4M AAV. If you can rotate him in properly and he gets better it is stupid cheap. Then trade him for a 1st or 2nd in the contact year, while you’ve already tried to do the same with somebody else. The super great glitch that has most definitely been fixed in the last Madden is the draft. You’d take a dude like Wallace, flip him for a 2nd in a contract year. Trade that second for a 1st the next year. Rinse and repeat. At one point I did this a couple seasons in a row, ended up with 7 or 8 firsts and another 2-3 seconds. The game maxed out at like 12 picks in a draft, so eventually you have to use the firsts and reset the process. Free agents till week 8 are bargaining chips. Grab a few FA's, hit manual trade and trade them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said: Levi Frazier back in the mix! Free agents till week 8 are bargaining chips. Grab a few FA's, hit manual trade and trade them. Also, the long game used to be, all picks would roll up a round if you traded them for a future pick. So every draft you take your 7th in 2021 and trade it for a 6th in 2022, and do that all the way up. In 6 years your second becomes an extra 1st. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 So many guys saying I want to be in Buffalo. One of the only guys I can remember saying that when we were terrible was Jerry Hughes (one of the reasons he’s my favorite player). Now multiple players are doing and taking “hometown discounts” to do so. If you count the 2020 football season and this offseason as one year- I can’t remember when I’ve had more fun as a Bills fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Mango said: Also, the long game used to be, all picks would roll up a round if you traded them for a future pick. So every draft you take your 7th in 2021 and trade it for a 6th in 2022, and do that all the way up. In 6 years your second becomes an extra 1st. Hmm. Never knew that, I have to try that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mc1320 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Ugghhhhhhhhh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Clyde Smith said: Hmm. Never knew that, I have to try that out. I haven’t played much the last 2 years. But I think they worked that one out. Finding good return on trades was way harder in the last one. I’ve been tempted recently to start playing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Forget what I said about Patrick Peterson. 🤮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mc1320 said: Ugghhhhhhhhh! If that means you don't like the signing I'm sure there is a good chance they go to the draft for another DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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