IgotBILLStopay Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Mack has the stronger resume and is more versatile. Hunter is younger but has the injury scare. Trading for either will involve our first rounder at a minimum. I am honestly torn between the two. It appeared Mack was the no-brainer but age is a big deal. Edited March 17, 2021 by IgotBILLStopay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Since we are in dream land I’ll play.. Hunter cause he’s younger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 They have nearly identical sack per game output, Hunter is younger but just missed the entire season. The other guy has missed one game ever. Gonna go Mack. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I’d take Hunter at this point. I think he’s the best pass rushing 4-3 DE in the league 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Dani Hunter for me. I mean, we are splitting hairs, here. I'd be over the moon with either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Gotta go with Hunter due to age. Mack best days are behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Khalil all day!!! Bring him home he needs to be a Bill!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Mack, just to make right the draft choice of Sammy and bring the Buffalo kid home 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I’m starting to feel that all this elite pass rusher talk is getting me super hyped up......only to break my heart. 💔 we shouldn’t start getting ahead of ourselves here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I think hunter fits our d better than Mack. He also had the most sacks under age 25 so the guy is no slouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Virgil said: Mack, just to make right the draft choice of Sammy and bring the Buffalo kid home 3 minutes ago, wppete said: Khalil all day!!! Bring him home he needs to be a Bill!!! Mack is from Florida, I know he played at SUNY Buffalo (as I'm an almnus- Class of 2000) but this bring him home narrative has to stop. I voted Hunter as has a much friendlier cap number and age on his side. Edited March 17, 2021 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 No way you trade a 1st for Khalil. He's on the precipice of his downslope of his career. Maybe a 2nd and a midrounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I picked Hunter cause I don’t think there’s even a 1% chance Mack is traded given the dead cap left behind. Why restructure him to save cap now, just to trade him and screw the cap even worse? I could see if it’s Wilson or Watson but just for draft picks is silly. They would of traded him before restructuring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Mack upgrades the entire defense a notch or 2. Recent history tells us that defense still matters in the biggest games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) We're not getting either, so what's the point of this thread? Edited March 17, 2021 by Buffalo03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, Magox said: No way you trade a 1st for Khalil. He's on the precipice of his downslope of his career. Maybe a 2nd and a midrounder. Trading for a pass rusher at this point doesn’t have to do with the long term. We need him to be good for 1-3 years. Long enough to win a super bowl. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thandGoal Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 neither.... cant afford, wont afford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Mack is from Florida, I know he played at SUNY Buffalo (as I'm an almnus- Class of 2000) but this bring him home narrative has to stop. I voted Hunter as has a much friendlier cap number and age on his side. LOL... I know he is from Florida, I meant "bring him home" where he played college Ball. Mack will always be linked to Buffalo. What a great story, a guy from Florida go to Buffalo dominates, gets drafted top 5 picks and dominates the NFL. Such a good humble guy also. Would be fun to see him in a Bills uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I picked Hunter cause I don’t think there’s even a 1% chance Mack is traded given the dead cap left behind. Why restructure him to save cap now, just to trade him and screw the cap even worse? I could see if it’s Wilson or Watson but just for draft picks is silly. They would of traded him before restructuring TBF, Ryan Pace is a terrible GM who is probably panicking after his huge push for Mr. Unliiiimited failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, NewEra said: Trading for a pass rusher at this point doesn’t have to do with the long term. We need him to be good for 1-3 years. Long enough to win a super bowl. That's fine and dandy and I don't have a problem with doing that, but there is always a cost -benefit analysis that has to be done. And 1 - 3 possibly good years in my view doesn't warrant a 1st round choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: We're not getting wither, so what's the point of this thread? Who is Wither? Is he better than Hunter or Mack? Bring him in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Boxcar said: TBF, Ryan Pace is a terrible GM who is probably panicking after his huge push for Mr. Unliiiimited failed. He is a bad GM, but he’s also as close to being fired as any gm in the league. You don’t trade your best player for picks and take on 35 million in dead cap or whatever the crazy number is, when you are already over the cap and have 50 players on your roster. Not even Bill O’Brien is that dumb. I get it’s fun to dream of adding a player like Mack, but it has to make sense for the team trading him too. Edited March 17, 2021 by Rc2catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, PetermansRedemption said: Who is Wither? Is he better than Hunter or Mack? Bring him in! It was supposed to be Either. I hit the wrong letter. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 What position will she be playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemarty Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: Who is Wither? Is he better than Hunter or Mack? Bring him in! Wither an undead hostile mob boss from Minecraft and, based upon the damage a Wither can do, I would take one over Mack or Hunter. Wither would just wreck the opposing O-line. Once again - Beane is a genius. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, Magox said: That's fine and dandy and I don't have a problem with doing that, but there is always a cost -benefit analysis that has to be done. And 1 - 3 possibly good years in my view doesn't warrant a 1st round choice. If we win a super bowl, you’re analysis is incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Im taking the youth here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Mack is from Florida, I know he played at SUNY Buffalo (as I'm an almnus- Class of 2000) but this bring him home narrative has to stop. I voted Hunter as has a much friendlier cap number and age on his side. Why does that narrative have to stop? You better give a better reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Is this Jeopardy? I’ll play. “Who are two players the Bills have zero chance of landing?” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, NewEra said: Trading for a pass rusher at this point doesn’t have to do with the long term. We need him to be good for 1-3 years. Long enough to win a super bowl. This is why I think a Mack trade is plausible. We are going all in now. Might as well. I don’t care if we are 50 million over the cap come 2022 if we win a super bowl next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, NewEra said: If we win a super bowl, you’re analysis is incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Hold on, if Wither is part of the conversation I dunno why anyone is talking about Mack or Hunter. Wither is elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Everybody talking about Khalil Mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: This is why I think a Mack trade is plausible. We are going all in now. Might as well. I don’t care if we are 50 million over the cap come 2022 if we win a super bowl next year. There is just no way. We have big contracts to be signed next year. I dont see it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I personally like Bosa better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Everybody talking about Khalil Mack But da plane boss, da plane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Beast said: Why does that narrative have to stop? You better give a better reason. As far as I know Mack used to train here in the off-season. So ... maybe it’s home. Whatevs. Let’s get him and beat the chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Just now, Magox said: Is it not true? If your analysis doesn’t include winning a super bowl, than it’s incomplete. That would be the purpose of trading a first rd pick for Mack? You wouldn’t trade a 1st rd pick for a SB? It’s no sure thing but it’s going for it. The Bucs went for it last season. They won the super bowl. The pats went for it several years. They won several Super Bowls. The Eagles went for it in 18, they won a SB. The chiefs traded a 1st for Frank Clark. They went for it and won a super bowl. The Broncos went and got Demarcus ware, two years later, they win the super bowl. These are the moves that championship team make. Sitting and waiting while everyone else goes for keeps your trophy case bare. Emmanuel Sanders isn’t going for it. There will be more moves. How far will the moves move our needle? 5 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I personally like Bosa better. So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 52 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: We're not getting either, so what's the point of this thread? "I'll take 'Players we won't get' for $800 Alex". I have different ones: Scarlett Johansson or Bella Hadid? Ferrari 250 GTO or Porsche 917? Glenfiddich 1937 or Bowmore 1964? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Is it not true? If your analysis doesn’t include winning a super bowl, than it’s incomplete. That would be the purpose of trading a first rd pick for Mack? You wouldn’t trade a 1st rd pick for a SB? It’s no sure thing but it’s going for it. The Bucs went for it last season. They won the super bowl. The pats went for it several years. They won several Super Bowls. The Eagles went for it in 18, they won a SB. The chiefs traded a 1st for Frank Clark. They went for it and won a super bowl. The Broncos went and got Demarcus ware, two years later, they win the super bowl. These are the moves that championship team make. Sitting and waiting while everyone else goes for keeps your trophy case bare. Emmanuel Sanders isn’t going for it. There will be more moves. How far will the moves move our needle? So? Because you don't know how much he would contribute to that. You are assuming that if the Bills win and he's on the team, he's the difference maker. He could be, he and he very well may not be. His numbers show him declining in production, he'll be 31 years old during next years season, maybe he finds his ALL PRO form and he maybe he doesn't. He hasn't played at an ALL PRO level the last couple years, he's been a good player, top 20% and in my view, you don't trade an aging player with declining statistics who may have another 1-3 more good years for a first rounder. Plus, you don't know what the 1st rounder would bring the table, part of your hypothesis doesn't take that into account. If they did trade for Mack, then I'd support it because I generally trust what Beane and McD do, but if you ask me would I trade a 1st for him, my answer would be no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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