Niagara Dude Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) Anyone interested in signing John Ross as a replacement for John Brown, is the fastest man in the NFL based on his 4.22 forty yard dash. Could also be used as a KR and is only 26. He gives us Tyreek Hill type of speed Edited March 16, 2021 by Niagara Dude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Anyone interested in signing John Ross as a replacement for John Brown, is the fastest man in the NFL based on his 4.22 forty yard dash. Could also be used as a KR and is only 26. He gives us Tyrone Hill level speed Injuries really have taken a toll on the guy still you can’t coach that kinda speed would be ok with him coming in on a one year prove it deal since all he really has to do is go deep 2-3 times a game to open the middle for other guys 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, 78thealltimegreat said: Injuries really have taken a toll on the guy still you can’t coach that kinda speed would be ok with him coming in on a one year prove it deal since all he really has to do is go deep 2-3 times a game to open the middle for other guys I agree and playing for the Bengals did not help, 4.22 is beep beep speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlan58 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just because you have speed, doesn't make you a good returner. Also - Tyrone Hill? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Anyone interested in signing John Ross as a replacement for John Brown, is the fastest man in the NFL based on his 4.22 forty yard dash. Could also be used as a KR and is only 26. He gives us Tyrone Hill level speed That is an interesting out of the box thought - though you may want to edit the post since we want someone with Tyreek’s speed not Tyrone’s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Anyone interested in signing John Ross as a replacement for John Brown, is the fastest man in the NFL based on his 4.22 forty yard dash. Could also be used as a KR and is only 26. He gives us Tyrone Hill level speed No because he's terrible and there's a lot more to the position than just having speed. Who the hell is Tyrone HIll? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, QCity said: No because he's terrible and there's a lot more to the position than just having speed. Who the hell is Tyrone HIll? LMAO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Anyone interested in signing John Ross as a replacement for John Brown, is the fastest man in the NFL based on his 4.22 forty yard dash. Could also be used as a KR and is only 26. He gives us Tyrone Hill level speed he's alway hurt and has done nothing to earn a contract. Not even close to Brown in production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rc2catch Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Khalif Raymond. Although I consider it mckenzies and roberts spot that needs filled not smoke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I would do it for a cheap prove it deal. You can't count on him obviously, but if you can take a cheap chance why not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: Anyone interested in signing John Ross as a replacement for John Brown, is the fastest man in the NFL based on his 4.22 forty yard dash. Could also be used as a KR and is only 26. He gives us Tyreek Hill type of speed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, nucci said: he's alway hurt and has done nothing to earn a contract. Not even close to Brown in production On a one year deal 2 minutes ago, nucci said: he's alway hurt and has done nothing to earn a contract. Not even close to Brown in production He is also not going to cost the Bills huge money 1 minute ago, McBean said: Your suggesting is? the team has a need and not a lot of cap space to fill that need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said: I would do it for a cheap prove it deal. You can't count on him obviously, but if you can take a cheap chance why not. he's had plenty of time to "prove it". You want to to take a chance even though you just said you obviously can't count on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: On a one year deal He is also not going to cost the Bills huge money Your suggesting is? the team has a need and not a lot of cap space to fill that need. My suggestion is Elijah Moore, WR Ole Miss in round 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, McBean said: My suggestion is Elijah Moore, WR Ole Miss in round 2. How about both? can never have enough speed. Signing Ross would not cost a huge amount , you also have to consider your guy may not be there when the Bills pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Hell no. Dude is always injured and when he isn't not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: How about both? can never have enough speed. Signing Ross would not cost a huge amount , you also have to consider your guy may not be there when the Bills pick. you need some ability to go with that speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsCuse Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Goodwin - type. straight ahead fast, thats about it, from what I understand. deep safety takes him away. pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted March 16, 2021 Author Share Posted March 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, nucci said: you need some ability to go with that speed. I don't think the Bengals system was a good fit and I do believe Brian & the Bills would find a a way to get him the ball 34 minutes ago, Conlan58 said: Just because you have speed, doesn't make you a good returner. Also - Tyrone Hill? We have a need and we don't have a ton of money to spend, no big risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I predict John Brown will replace John Brown. Once the dust settles he'll be re-signed to a reasonable deal. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: I don't think the Bengals system was a good fit and I do believe Brian & the Bills would find a a way to get him the ball What is the Bengals system that wasn't a fit? AJ Green and Tyler Boyd did well in that system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, nucci said: he's had plenty of time to "prove it". You want to to take a chance even though you just said you obviously can't count on him? Yes, I would definitely sign him to a cheap deal, bring him to camp and see what he has in Dabolls scheme. We are talking about a WR 4/5, not like we are talking about an every down player here. If he isn't what you thought you can cut him for next to nothing. Guy is talented, not sure why anyone would be opposed to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Sammy Watkins said John Ross was made of glass. Hard pass for me. With track history , injuries, and production, not a guy you can count on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mama Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 45 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I predict John Brown will replace John Brown. Once the dust settles he'll be re-signed to a reasonable deal. This is the best option if he can stay healthy. Chemistry with QB, team fit, may have a chip on is shoulder to prove he still has it. Incentives based on playing time/availability. 24 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: Sammy Watkins said John Ross was made of glass. Hard pass for me. With track history , injuries, and production, not a guy you can count on. Did he say this about Ross or himself? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 he might be the most injured player i've ever seen. and he went to the bengals who have the worst training facility in the league. i mean i'd throw a low offer at him to see if he can get through camp but i don't even think i'd do that it's almost guaranteed he doesn't finish half the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Glass Goodwin is Iron Man compared to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Should the Bills consider taking a flyer on Ross to fill out a 90 men roster due to his speed? Yes. Should he be at all considered a replacement for John Brown the football player? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 "Butterfingers" Ross may be fast, but this many years into the career of a high draft pick and he cannot catch the ball consistently. I'd rather have Robert Foster. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, clayboy54 said: "Butterfingers" Ross may be fast, but this many years into the career of a high draft pick and he cannot catch the ball consistently. I'd rather have Robert Foster. 🙂 Robert Foster?!?! 🎶Rah-bert Fos-ter!!🎵 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, clayboy54 said: "Butterfingers" Ross may be fast, but this many years into the career of a high draft pick and he cannot catch the ball consistently. I'd rather have Robert Foster. 🙂 If he could ever stay healthy, Ross is a much much better player. How Foster ever became a thing he was weird. He couldn’t even start in college. Ross has at least shown elite ability. He is just broken physically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) Whenever I see these " what about signing so&so?" I have to ask; do you consider the PLAYERS perspective ? Can Bills afford what a free agent thinks he is worth? In Ross's case, hiw many targets could he take from Diggs, Beasley and Davis?And since he hasn't returned kicks,he won't start now. No thanks,there are other free agents and rookies that can fill that role Edited March 16, 2021 by Georgie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: On a one year deal He is also not going to cost the Bills huge money Your suggesting is? the team has a need and not a lot of cap space to fill that need. They have more than a John Ross level of cap space to fill it. Guy sucks. 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: I predict John Brown will replace John Brown. Once the dust settles he'll be re-signed to a reasonable deal. I'm very much hoping for this as well, but it's just really off that Beane never approached him to take a pay cut. That tells me something is up...but of all the more budget friendly WR options, how are any of them better than Smoke? Especially since he knows the system. He isn't just fast, either, he runs great routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Conlan58 said: Just because you have speed, doesn't make you a good returner. Also - Tyrone Hill? Tyrone Shoelaces 1 hour ago, nucci said: What is the Bengals system that wasn't a fit? AJ Green and Tyler Boyd did well in that system. Maybe having one of the top young QB's in the league wasn't helping? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, Boxcar said: They have more than a John Ross level of cap space to fill it. Guy sucks. I'm very much hoping for this as well, but it's just really off that Beane never approached him to take a pay cut. That tells me something is up...but of all the more budget friendly WR options, how are any of them better than Smoke? Especially since he knows the system. He isn't just fast, either, he runs great routes. I'm hoping/thinking the non-offer had to do with the size of the reduction in salary that the Bills are thinking. Smoke was not a budget friendly option, he was 9 million. If the Bills are trying to fill the position with a 3-4 million option, you can't even bring it up to Smoke until after he tests the market. I hope Smoke didn't burn his bridges with his statements. Maybe they can frame this as Josh going to management and asking to see if they could bring Smoke back, and Smoke decided to give a team friendly deal for Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said: I'm hoping/thinking the non-offer had to do with the size of the reduction in salary that the Bills are thinking. Smoke was not a budget friendly option, he was 9 million. If the Bills are trying to fill the position with a 3-4 million option, you can't even bring it up to Smoke until after he tests the market. I hope Smoke didn't burn his bridges with his statements. Maybe they can frame this as Josh going to management and asking to see if they could bring Smoke back, and Smoke decided to give a team friendly deal for Josh. I'm sure that Smoke being distraught over being pushed off a team he didn't want to leave isn't going to make Beane hold a grudge. If anything, that should make him feel better. Smoke really wants to be here, so I hope this is correct and he dips his toes into FA to find it's not as receptive to him as he'd thought. I like Gabe Davis and Hodgins is interesting, but neither is the caliber of player a healthy John Brown is, at least not yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulofstone Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Niagara Dude said: Anyone interested in signing John Ross as a replacement for John Brown, is the fastest man in the NFL based on his 4.22 forty yard dash. Could also be used as a KR and is only 26. He gives us Tyreek Hill type of speed I say yes if he is cheap. The fact that he hasn't developed is also a reflection on a Wr corps who took lots of snaps AJ Green and Tyler Boyd and this last year Tee Higgins. He has made big plays for them but has been hit by injuries.and mistakes. Of course he is an outside bet but if he comes off.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Speed without football skill is a track meet. If the Bills took "a flyer" on every high risk player there would be no good players on the team only 90 flyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: If he could ever stay healthy, Ross is a much much better player. How Foster ever became a thing he was weird. He couldn’t even start in college. Ross has at least shown elite ability. He is just broken physically. Yes, he was elite in College. So was Jamarcus Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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