the missing link - an Alvin Kamara-type player

[BADOLBILZ]

32 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

What do you think of Michel's postseason performance in 2018? Also, He was hurt a lot this season, but he did average 5.7 ypc on 79 carries, which -- excluding QBs like Lamar Jackson -- was second best in the league after Dobbins.  That's Gillislee level stuff! (I kid.) Anyway, he did look pretty explosive this year when he was in there.

 

I did watch that Eagles/Saints game, and to be honest, I thought the Eagles were going to blow them out early on -- that is, until the Saints started completely dominating, which was well before halftime. Bad drop by Jeffrey, for sure, but there was no guarantee of a TD. The drop occurred at around the 18 yard line, IIRC. The Saints were indeed behind until late in the third, but bear in mind that they scored on their first drive of the third quarter -- and it took up eleven and a half minutes.

 

 

Timmie Smith had a great run behind the Hogs in the playoffs in 1987.   You can get aberrations in production from RB's in small sample sizes.   Michel has been a pretty huge disappointment.   Singletary averaged 5.0 ypc on a much larger workload in 2019.....you are ready to move on from him.   We'll see if the Pats pick up Meh-chel's 5th year option.

[NewEra]

4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

That's what you THINK........Harris and Etienne were playing on dominant teams and both had over 600 carries in college.......not low mileage.

 

The Bills have to fix their running game.........it was astonishingly unproductive considering the threat of the pass.........but IMO that is an offensive line issue.

 

Mitch Morse undermines their running game, IMO.    Feliciano would be better there than at guard and much better than Morse in the run game.

 

It's a strong OT class.......they might find a LT that can play RT right away with that pick.   If they pay Williams at RT they could address a pass rusher or a CB.   Or perhaps they trade a high pick for a proven stud pass rusher or CB.   

 

Real, high-dollar, important positions that also help you unseat the Chiefs.

 

Then find a James Robinson later in the draft or maybe Moss and Singletary run for 5.0 ypc behind a better OL and scheme.

 

I think there are many ways to skin the cat and get past a KC........throwing their weight into the RB position is short-sighted but I don't doubt they'd do it because they already have used two "starting" level picks on RB's the past two seasons.

I hear ya.  I’m not opposed to that plan more than I am enamored with the skill set of these RBs.  If it was last year, I wouldn’t have wanted to draft any of the RBs in rd 1.  Cam Akers and Clyde were my top 2.  
 

sometimes there are talents that debunk the theory that taking a RB in round one is a mistake.  A theory I subscribe to. 
 

what happens if we don’t cut Morse?  What happens if we keep Feliciano and Williams.....and Cody Ford/boettger. I think there’s a chance we have 4 of the same starters next season.  That’s not going to fair very well imo.  If we do completely retool our OL, drafting a rb in rd one is unlikely.  
 

if we return 4+ of our starters along the OL, I’d like a rb in rd 1 or 2.  If we have 1-2 returners, I’m good with seeing what the new line can do while signing Jeff Wilson or a rb with some speed to the corner, on the cheap.  
 

for whatever reason, I feel that we’re going to have at least 4 of these guys back starting next year.  And we’ll watch Chris Jones and Frank Clark obliterate them again next year in the afccg

[dave mcbride]

9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Timmie Smith had a great run behind the Hogs in the playoffs in 1987.   You can get aberrations in production from RB's in small sample sizes.   Michel has been a pretty huge disappointment.   Singletary averaged 5.0 ypc on a much larger workload in 2019.....you are ready to move on from him.   We'll see if the Pats pick up Meh-chel's 5th year option.

My beef with Singletary - who I actually think is non-terrible - is that he's not a good receiver. I want a back who is all purpose and actually good, like Kamara. I'd prefer to get him later in the draft, but sometimes other teams want guys like that too. 

 

I agree about the line, but tackles aren't the problem. The Alabama center appears to be pretty good. The guard for OSU seems good too. You can get a top center/guard in the mid-30s, so you'd be able to trade down and pick up, say, a late third/early fourth.

Edited January 26, 2021 by dave mcbride

[John from Riverside]

5 hours ago, Rico said:

I don’t like burning a #1 on a RB, but I would not complain if we drafted Etienne.

I normally would not either......but there are gonna be a lot of free agent OL and DL on the market this offseason

 

When your team is THIS close getting to the Super Bowl....that is the right time to target players and not accumulate picks....because there is no room for the picks on a talented roster

[Don Otreply]

4 hours ago, MJS said:

Singletary is puzzling to me. I really expected a big year out of him. He looked pretty dang good last season. Not sure what happened.

 

Our oline really regressed in run blocking too, for some reason. Daboll needs to fix that and get more creative with the run game.

 

I'm all for trying to trade for or draft a big time running back. A guy with speed and explosiveness.

The O line run blocking difference from last year is that we lost Spain, and then Ford was playing injured then he was out on IR, last year run blocking was noticeably better with those guys on the O line. For some reason or another no one seems to see this or even brings it up, oh well.. 

 

Go Bills!!!
 

 

[TableDestoyer69]

5 pages in, and nobody has remarked that the thread title says missing link rather than missing piece

 

I think the Geico caveman might be available, though

[Pete]

6 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

It is a total waste. RB’s are a dime a dozen. 

 

I keep reading this.  If RBs are so easy to find, where is our RB production?

 

points win games.  A RB TD is worth just as many points as a TD pass.  We need points, so a stud RB would certainly help.

Kamaras are not a dime a dozen.  We should swing for Kamara types like we swing for QBs- they are game changers.

 

In a perfect world- I gift Josh a pass catching stud RB and a elite TE

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

6 minutes ago, Pete said:

I keep reading this.  If RBs are so easy to find, where is our RB production?

 

points win games.  A RB TD is worth just as many points as a TD pass.  We need points, so a stud RB would certainly help.

Kamaras are not a dime a dozen.  We should swing for Kamara types like we swing for QBs- they are game changers.

 

In a perfect world- I gift Josh a pass catching stud RB and a elite TE

No one disputes that there are absolute game-changer RB’s, like Henry, CMC, and Kamara. 
 

I guess the issue is weighing whether you can get a comparable or better back for less in free agency or lower in the draft. Kamara himself is a great example. Fournette was the first RB off the board at 4 overall. The Saints got Kamara in the third round. 

[Reed83HOF]

4 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

A referee who doesn't make one of the worst non-calls ever, for one. 

[Mr. WEO]

"Shady" is available, no?

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I normally would not either......but there are gonna be a lot of free agent OL and DL on the market this offseason

 

When your team is THIS close getting to the Super Bowl....that is the right time to target players and not accumulate picks....because there is no room for the picks on a talented roster

 

There's always room for more talent on any roster.  Sunday we saw where the Bills could use more.

 

 

[TheBrownBear]

RB is a huge need for sure.  Singletary regressed badly this season.  I was expecting a huge year from him and he just flat out didn't perform.  His drop on Sunday night changed the entire complexion of the game.  He had a 20 yard gain ahead of him.  At worst we kick a field goal and extend the lead to 12-7, but if he catches that and we go in and add a TD - everything changes, imo.  That play literally took the wind out of our sails.  You could see it on the body language of the entire team.  

[BuffaninSarasota]

7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

The Bills finished second in the NFL in scoring.

 

RB is not a position I would put much into...........they've expended two picks in round 3 on RB's which was two too many for anything short of a game changer.........now it's incumbent on the Bills All-world personnel department to find that big play guy late in the draft and UDFA.

 

I like the suggestion of some that McKenzie be used more out of the backfield.

 

Drake is an enigma.........I expect Moss will be a better player next year than Drake..........I know that's not the type of player you are looking for but just that I think Drake will be a bust wherever he goes.

 

7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

The Bills finished second in the NFL in scoring.

 

RB is not a position I would put much into...........they've expended two picks in round 3 on RB's which was two too many for anything short of a game changer.........now it's incumbent on the Bills All-world personnel department to find that big play guy late in the draft and UDFA.

 

I like the suggestion of some that McKenzie be used more out of the backfield.

 

Drake is an enigma.........I expect Moss will be a better player next year than Drake..........I know that's not the type of player you are looking for but just that I think Drake will be a bust wherever he goes.

and we got exposed for our lack of any run game by KC.....

[BADOLBILZ]

15 minutes ago, BuffaninSarasota said:

 

and we got exposed for our lack of any run game by KC.....

 

 

Yeah that 36-3 stretch really exposed the Bills run game.

[CEN-CAL17]

This team will not use pick 30 on a RB.... it’s gonna be OL, DL or CB. 
 

If Morse is released for cap Savings. Creed Humphrey C Oklahoma. I like Dayvion Nixon DT Iowa. CB I haven’t really looked into yet....

 

Also if John Brown is released don’t be surprised for another weapon for Josh at 30. 
 

 

[BADOLBILZ]

4 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

My beef with Singletary - who I actually think is non-terrible - is that he's not a good receiver. I want a back who is all purpose and actually good, like Kamara. I'd prefer to get him later in the draft, but sometimes other teams want guys like that too. 

 

I agree about the line, but tackles aren't the problem. The Alabama center appears to be pretty good. The guard for OSU seems good too. You can get a top center/guard in the mid-30s, so you'd be able to trade down and pick up, say, a late third/early fourth.

 

"tackles aren't the problem"

 

You shouldn't use the early rounds of the draft to fill immediate needs.

 

They change.

 

Fast.

 

I remember starting a thread about drafting Aaron Donald a couple weeks before that draft and everyone who responded basically said "yeah, no way....can't you see we have all these stars on the DLine.....the defensive line isn't the problem!".  

 

QB

Pass rusher

CB1

LT

WR1 or potentially great TE(rare)

 

Trust the process or trade out.  

 

Yeah some teams break from that and have some success.......but when McBeane chose to basically rid the team of all the prior regimes 1st and 2nd round picks for pennies on the dollar they lost quite a bit of margin for error time-wise in their re-build.      They really need to use those early picks to keep those big dollar type positions stocked.........and hopefully longer term.

[Bill from NYC]

On 1/26/2021 at 10:27 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

I remember starting a thread about drafting Aaron Donald a couple weeks before that draft and everyone who responded basically said "yeah, no way....can't you see we have all these stars on the DLine.....the defensive line isn't the problem!".  

 

Not everyone.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 1/26/2021 at 10:35 AM, dave mcbride said:

I know, I know, guys like him are hard to find. But a RB who is both a talented runner and an excellent receiver out of the backfield would take the Bills' passing game to an even higher level (not to mention the running game). The Bills' passing game is awesome, but it's awfully reliant on WRs. Is there anyone with a Kamara profile in this year's draft? If not, Kenyon Drake--a free agent who turns 27 today--would be my target. He's not Kamara, but his game is similar, and he probably has 2-3 good years left in him.  

 

I wanted Kenyon Drake in 2019.  It rots my socks that the Cardinals got him for a conditional 6th that turned into a 5th.  I suppose Miami didn't want to trade within the division but still. 

 

The Cardinals transition tagged him for $8.5M last year, that's how good he was for them in 2019.  I think that may indicate his contract expectations are out of our budget, or at least the budget that we can allocate.

 

I'll be interested to hear the answer to your question about Kamara-types in the draft.

[whorlnut]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/Article/Kadarius-Toney-Alvin-Kamara-says-models-his-game-Florida-Gators-NFL-Draft-2021-Tennessee-New-Orleans-Saints-160024342/Amp/
 

Here he is...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 1/26/2021 at 8:32 PM, CEN-CAL17 said:

This team will not use pick 30 on a RB.... it’s gonna be OL, DL or CB. 
If Morse is released for cap Savings. Creed Humphrey C Oklahoma. I like Dayvion Nixon DT Iowa. CB I haven’t really looked into yet....

Also if John Brown is released don’t be surprised for another weapon for Josh at 30.

 

I think we need to retain Morse (we don't save that much, relative to the dead cap hit) AND draft a C/G upgrade.

[billsfan89]

I don't necessarily know if the missing link on the offense is any type of player. Yes the team could use some speed out of the backfield and maybe an upgrade over Knox at TE. But considering how banged up the WR corps ended up being (Davis, Brown and Beasley were hurt going into the game and Diggs got dinged early on) I am not sure that there even is a "missing link" in the offense. You have 4 WR's who all are good players when healthy and complement each other well. Yes John Brown's health is now a concern again but Davis provides depth. You have Knox who looked to come on stronger to end the season and is at worst a good complementary weapon, you have an O-line that is stacked for once and you have a pair of good young RB's who can do a little of everything. 

 

To me the issue is more so can John Brown or Gabe Davis be a WR2? Brown can if he is healthy but can he stay healthy? Gabe is a nice player but is he ready to take on that role? 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 1/26/2021 at 7:42 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

Yeah that 36-3 stretch really exposed the Bills run game.

 

C'mon BadOl. 

 

1) It's neither rocket science nor outlandish to believe that if the Bills had a more multi-faceted offensive attack, perhaps we wouldn't have 2 punts and 2 fieldgoals and would have held the ball longer on offense, thus holding down that KC scoring frenzy.

2) it's just possible that McDermott and Beane (who believes the last game you play reveals your weaknesses) specifically mentioned the need to improve the run game because they believe it's a clear gap that would have helped us sustain drives instead of punt, and score TDs instead of FG.

[Buffalo03]

I'm usually a best player available guy but we are a Super Bowl caliber team that need just a couple pieces and because of that, I think we should focus on need 

 

That first pick should be either a 

RB

Pass Rushing DE

#2 CB

TE

LB (If we lose Milano)

 

We don't need much else

 

Dream scenario would be a Kamara type RB and a TE like Hunter Henry if we could snag him in FA

Edited January 29, 2021 by Buffalo03

[Trogdor]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

I'm usually a best player available guy but we are a Super Bowl caliber team that need just a couple pieces and because of that, I think we should focus on need 

 

That first pick should be either a 

RB

Pass Rushing DE

#2 CB

TE

LB (If we lose Milano)

 

We don't need much else

 

Dream scenario would be a Kamara type RB and a TE like Hunter Henry if we could snag him in FA

This is very optimistic IMO. We need a replacement for Star and maybe 2 DEs. Those guys aren't getting any younger and production was horrible. Ideally I'd like them to draft a true MLB and move Edmunds outside, but it's not going to happen. We looked like the Big 10 playing SEC speed against the Chiefs.   

[Thurman#1]

On 1/27/2021 at 1:35 AM, dave mcbride said:

I know, I know, guys like him are hard to find. But a RB who is both a talented runner and an excellent receiver out of the backfield would take the Bills' passing game to an even higher level (not to mention the running game). The Bills' passing game is awesome, but it's awfully reliant on WRs. Is there anyone with a Kamara profile in this year's draft? If not, Kenyon Drake--a free agent who turns 27 today--would be my target. He's not Kamara, but his game is similar, and he probably has 2-3 good years left in him.  

 

 

Kamara was a 3rd rounder. If they can get someone like him there, I'd be thrilled.

 

IMO, TE is the bigger need, though.

 

I don't see us affording Drake this year, myself. $8M for one year last year. The demand will be down with many teams in cap trouble, so salaries will drop but my guess is that he still gets somewhere in the $5M neighborhood and I don't see us being able to be in the running this year.

 

9 hours ago, Trogdor said:

This is very optimistic IMO. We need a replacement for Star and maybe 2 DEs. Those guys aren't getting any younger and production was horrible. Ideally I'd like them to draft a true MLB and move Edmunds outside, but it's not going to happen. We looked like the Big 10 playing SEC speed against the Chiefs.   

 

 

We're likely to have Star himself, though nobody can be sure he won't opt out again. I don't see us trying to replace him as an early need, though supplementing the team with a guy with some of the same skills who could play on short-yardage downs and be groomed to be his long-term replacement would make a lot of sense.

 

Seeing how well the NFL handled COVID has to have calmed fears a bit in many optouts.

 

Pass rushers generally, would indeed seem to be a major need.

Edited January 30, 2021 by Thurman#1

[Thurman#1]

On 1/27/2021 at 10:42 AM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah that 36-3 stretch really exposed the Bills run game.

 

 

In fact, it did. 

 

As Buscaglia pointed out, our lack of any run threat allowed the Chiefs D to use 6 DBs for most of the game. That will make it harder for any passing attack to be successful. 

 

So, yes, that "3" in the 36-3 may well have had something to do with the exposure of how little of a run game threat we showed.

Edited January 30, 2021 by Thurman#1

[machine gun kelly]

11 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

I'm usually a best player available guy but we are a Super Bowl caliber team that need just a couple pieces and because of that, I think we should focus on need 

 

That first pick should be either a 

RB

Pass Rushing DE

#2 CB

TE

LB (If we lose Milano)

 

We don't need much else

 

Dream scenario would be a Kamara type RB and a TE like Hunter Henry if we could snag him in FA

B3, All the slots are perfect, but I said in another thread, Henry would be a perfect free agency add.  Any edge rusher or #2 CB would be a lot more than Henry’s $10.6.  His $10.6 mil. is possible, but then that means Milano walks.  I’ve said all week, you get something, you have to give something up.  TE’s don’t usually come out of a draft and just blow it up as a rookie.  You know Henry is a proven winner.  The other thing is of the doom and gloom cap comes to fruition, we might get him for less.

 

Using you're first two picks in either order based on their board for an Edge Rusher and CB is smart.  The only way you go for a RB in the first is if he is a game changer.  I agree all four spots are important, and everything after that is depth.  We were fortunate our 2020 later picks were valuable.  Bass will be our kicker barring injuries for a decade.  I firmly believe Dane Jackson will add to our DB depth for a long time as well.

 

We hopefully can find gems on the O Line and possible LB later in the draft.  One thing is for sure, if we went after Henry, that would be it for free agency other than just a guy at a bargain price.

[Trogdor]

3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

We're likely to have Star himself, though nobody can be sure he won't opt out again. I don't see us trying to replace him as an early need, though supplementing the team with a guy with some of the same skills who could play on short-yardage downs and be groomed to be his long-term replacement would make a lot of sense.

 

Seeing how well the NFL handled COVID has to have calmed fears a bit in many optouts.

 

Pass rushers generally, would indeed seem to be a major need.

I just don't see Star as being any good. We were gashed often up the middle when he played, so I don't see the value like some posters do. He has rated as mediocre to poor since his rookie year and doesn't eat doubles like his size would imply. 

[dave mcbride]

2 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

B3, All the slots are perfect, but I said in another thread, Henry would be a perfect free agency add.  Any edge rusher or #2 CB would be a lot more than Henry’s $10.6.  His $10.6 mil. is possible, but then that means Milano walks.  I’ve said all week, you get something, you have to give something up.  TE’s don’t usually come out of a draft and just blow it up as a rookie.  You know Henry is a proven winner.  The other thing is of the doom and gloom cap comes to fruition, we might get him for less.

 

Using you're first two picks in either order based on their board for an Edge Rusher and CB is smart.  The only way you go for a RB in the first is if he is a game changer.  I agree all four spots are important, and everything after that is depth.  We were fortunate our 2020 later picks were valuable.  Bass will be our kicker barring injuries for a decade.  I firmly believe Dane Jackson will add to our DB depth for a long time as well.

 

We hopefully can find gems on the O Line and possible LB later in the draft.  One thing is for sure, if we went after Henry, that would be it for free agency other than just a guy at a bargain price.

Good post, but my sense is that this is a pretty bad draft for edge rushers. I’m down for a good corner, however. You can never have enough of them in today’s NFL.

[TheBrownBear]

Look out for Demetric Felton.  Dynamic playmaker, good pass catcher and he'll be there in the mid-rounds of the draft.  

[LABILLBACKER]

On 1/28/2021 at 2:52 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

C'mon BadOl. 

 

1) It's neither rocket science nor outlandish to believe that if the Bills had a more multi-faceted offensive attack, perhaps we wouldn't have 2 punts and 2 fieldgoals and would have held the ball longer on offense, thus holding down that KC scoring frenzy.

2) it's just possible that McDermott and Beane (who believes the last game you play reveals your weaknesses) specifically mentioned the need to improve the run game because they believe it's a clear gap that would have helped us sustain drives instead of punt, and score TDs instead of FG.

Exactly.  How do you think Belichick beat us in SB25. We had this unstoppable no huddle offense. So Bill & Bill came up with the strategy to keep Jim and Co. off the field.  The Giants destroyed us with TOP. They ran the ball down our throats and we couldn't get our offense on the field.  You gotta do the same thing with Mahomes. We must sustain drives and you can't do that without a run game.

10 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

Look out for Demetric Felton.  Dynamic playmaker, good pass catcher and he'll be there in the mid-rounds of the draft.  

Trade down into the 2nd. Get an extra pick and grab this kid. I've seen every snap and he's very good.

[TheBeaneBandit]

11 hours ago, Trogdor said:

I just don't see Star as being any good. We were gashed often up the middle when he played, so I don't see the value like some posters do. He has rated as mediocre to poor since his rookie year and doesn't eat doubles like his size would imply. 

He really isn't any bigger than below average for a modern DT to be quite honest. Just sayin....

[Hapless Bills Fan]

13 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

B3, All the slots are perfect, but I said in another thread, Henry would be a perfect free agency add.  Any edge rusher or #2 CB would be a lot more than Henry’s $10.6.  His $10.6 mil. is possible, but then that means Milano walks.  I’ve said all week, you get something, you have to give something up.  TE’s don’t usually come out of a draft and just blow it up as a rookie.  You know Henry is a proven winner.  The other thing is of the doom and gloom cap comes to fruition, we might get him for less.

 

Using you're first two picks in either order based on their board for an Edge Rusher and CB is smart.  The only way you go for a RB in the first is if he is a game changer.  I agree all four spots are important, and everything after that is depth.  We were fortunate our 2020 later picks were valuable.  Bass will be our kicker barring injuries for a decade.  I firmly believe Dane Jackson will add to our DB depth for a long time as well.

 

We hopefully can find gems on the O Line and possible LB later in the draft.  One thing is for sure, if we went after Henry, that would be it for free agency other than just a guy at a bargain price.

 

Regarding Hunter Henry:

This is his 5th year in the league and he has yet to play a full season

2016: 1 game

2017: 2 games (lacerated kidney, knee) - last 2 games

2018: 16 games (ACL)

2019: 4 games (fracture of tibial plateau)

2020: 2 games (Covid)

 

Since one concern people express about trying to keep Milano is his injury history, wouldn't the same concern apply to Henry?

 

His Franchise tag is $10.6M, signing him would probably require the sort of "big FA splash" (and big guaranteed money) Beane said we wouldn't do

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

We have the playmakers now we need the muscle inside

 

 

[BADOLBILZ]

22 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Exactly.  How do you think Belichick beat us in SB25. We had this unstoppable no huddle offense. So Bill & Bill came up with the strategy to keep Jim and Co. off the field.  The Giants destroyed us with TOP. They ran the ball down our throats and we couldn't get our offense on the field.  You gotta do the same thing with Mahomes. We must sustain drives and you can't do that without a run game.

 

 

The Bills didn't have a defense that was good enough to keep Mahomes off the field.    I thought Daboll did a poor job preparing the team for the playoffs late in the year.......he took a lot of low hanging fruit from teams that were mailing it in rather than sharpen his run game..........but they were going to need to make some stops on defense and they weren't coached/prepared well enough there to do that.    They gotta' become more multiple on defense.   That Giants team was built on a dominant front 7 and they literally went to a 3 man front in SB XXV...........that kind of system versatility is not something McDermott has ever shown.  

[Buffalo Barbarian]

We still have the kid from England, its time he gets on the active roster

 

 

[97bills]

Everyone kills me running backs are dime a dozen or we really don’t need to spend a first on one. I will just say if there a dime a dozen we’re is our great back and if they don’t help sure look like to me when the colts and KC were killing us with backs and what about the saints it’s nice to know 3 and 2 you can pitch it to the back and get the first or break one tackle and get a big play. If I’m Buffalo I’m getting a running back and if it’s a stud so what if it’s in the first round come on guys. 

[Dont Stop Billeiving]

On 1/26/2021 at 5:26 PM, delirious said:

I'll keep pounding the table for Kenneth Gainwell until the draft.  He was awesome at Memphis. 

 

The kid from Louisville mentioned earlier I think is a good one too

 

 

Like the look of Gainwell (and Hawkins from Louisville) a lot, we really need a speed element in our backfield.

 

It would be interesting to examine the differences between Gainwell and Darrell Henderson though as I thought he was an outstanding RB prospect out of Memphis a couple years ago and he hasn't done much at the NFL level yet (you could argue he hasn't gotten many opportunities in the Rams crowded backfield but still). Are you a Memphis fan and/or do you know if Gainwell might project differently as a pro? Thanks

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said:

Like the look of Gainwell (and Hawkins from Louisville) a lot, we really need a speed element in our backfield.

 

It would be interesting to examine the differences between Gainwell and Darrell Henderson though as I thought he was an outstanding RB prospect out of Memphis a couple years ago and he hasn't done much at the NFL level yet (you could argue he hasn't gotten many opportunities in the Rams crowded backfield but still). Are you a Memphis fan and/or do you know if Gainwell might project differently as a pro? Thanks

Agreed. Gainwell is my guy.  Antonio Gibson was my guy last year.....sure wish we could’ve landed him.  Gainwell is a great receiver with incredible burst, just what we need

[C.Biscuit97]

On 1/26/2021 at 11:35 AM, dave mcbride said:

I know, I know, guys like him are hard to find. But a RB who is both a talented runner and an excellent receiver out of the backfield would take the Bills' passing game to an even higher level (not to mention the running game). The Bills' passing game is awesome, but it's awfully reliant on WRs. Is there anyone with a Kamara profile in this year's draft? If not, Kenyon Drake--a free agent who turns 27 today--would be my target. He's not Kamara, but his game is similar, and he probably has 2-3 good years left in him.  

Drake never stays healthy. But I like the idea. And Ak was a 3rd round pick. That’s not why you don’t spend a 1st on Harris. They need speed badly in the backfield. 

[spartacus]

On 1/26/2021 at 11:35 AM, dave mcbride said:

I know, I know, guys like him are hard to find. But a RB who is both a talented runner and an excellent receiver out of the backfield would take the Bills' passing game to an even higher level (not to mention the running game). The Bills' passing game is awesome, but it's awfully reliant on WRs. Is there anyone with a Kamara profile in this year's draft? If not, Kenyon Drake--a free agent who turns 27 today--would be my target. He's not Kamara, but his game is similar, and he probably has 2-3 good years left in him.  

probably should also invest in an OC that is going to use both the RB and TE in the passing game to make the pick worthwhile