JaCrispy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Making an observation that is bared out by facts. The wind has affected Allen as it seemed so did the rain vs. Tenn & KC (yes slight injury too). I'd rather weather is not a factor (or excuse) on Sunday. Thought it was a significant factor vs. Baltimore. Looks okay Sunday. Looks like there might be rain in the forecast.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 51 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Okay, Gee, Let's build a DOME stadium you gonna pay for it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 56 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Such a bundle of joy It’s great that we no longer have to worry about whoever the opponent is, just the pesky elements! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, zow2 said: Yeesh, the weather in KC this Sunday sounds very similar to our first game w them. I see 40% and low winds, which seems fine. 23 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Josh has improved his weaknesses every year. Do you think he, Daboll and Diggs haven’t already discussed working on this? It's a weakness with most QB's (bad weather), however it really affects the Bills offence more at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I love these threads 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said: It's a weakness with most QB's (bad weather), however it really affects the Bills offence more at this point. When you were conducting your research, how did you control for all possible variables, other than weather, to reach this conclusion? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: I see 40% and low winds, which seems fine. It's a weakness with most QB's (bad weather), however it really affects the Bills offence more at this point. I think the Baltimore game was more of an 'underestimating how bad the wind would be' type scenario...we probably expected the ravens to come out and play a lot of man and blitz like they usually do which would give us lots of single coverage deep shots but that one open look diggs had where the ball got blown 10 yards to the right was a wakeup call for both teams...second half we were focusing on short to intermediate routes and having success 13 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: When you were conducting your research, how did you control for all possible variables, other than weather, to reach this conclusion? Yea im not sure it affected us more...we could really load up on the run because lamar isn't a great passer in even normal conditions but the threat of him passing is certainly there in decent weather I think our first matchup with kc and the ten game was more about Josh's injury 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Low winds is the key...showers won't really do anything. Agree with this. Light wind is all I ask for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I think the Baltimore game was more of an 'underestimating how bad the wind would be' type scenario...we probably expected the ravens to come out and play a lot of man and blitz like they usually do which would give us lots of single coverage deep shots but that one open look diggs had where the ball got blown 10 yards to the right was a wakeup call for both teams...second half we were focusing on short to intermediate routes and having success As much as the weather was a factor - the game flow in the 2nd half was very strange. Buffalo drove down and scored to go up 7 - ran almost 6 minutes off the clock. Baltimore drove down and threw a pick 6 to go down 14 - but also ran almost 9 minutes off the clock. Buffalo then got the ball at the start of the 4th quarter and ran another 5 minutes off the clock. They ended up punting as they were in a poor down and distance in baltimore territory - but up 14. The 1st and 2nd down calls had nothing to do with wind - the QB sweep was snuffed out and the mckenzie pass didn't work. Next possession they were in FG territory and tried to run clock. But this is a successful possession in a 2 score game - no points, 5 minutes off the clock, pinned them at the 10. If baltimore had scored on any of their 2nd half possessions i think buffalo's offense is opened up a bit more. But they didn't Edited January 19, 2021 by dneveu 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Weather is an issue only because we don't run the ball well...and our defense had struggled. Defense much better now so it's even play ground this weekend. And on O...more designed QB runs is what I expect to soften them up regardless of weather and a short passing game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: It's a no-brainer Terry needs to build a dome when it's time to replace Bills Stadium. We're not an in-the-trenches team anymore. Retractable would be ideal. A lot of beautiful fall days for football, heck even Indy game was sunny and pleasant in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I think this Bills have no running game thing is a lot like the Bills have no run defense thing. Singletary is not some 3.2 ypc career runner. He’s an average NFL running back and capable of 4.0 ypc plus. Same with Yeldon. Where the running game has consistently looked bad is on 3rd-1 and 4th-1 where this line gets no push and the Bills lose yards every time. I agree with other fans that state the Bills need to run a smidge more for this game, but I still expect a 75/25, 80/20 pass-run ratio. Daboll has said many times that they trust Allen with the ball in his hands and that’s where they want that ball to stay. For sure Daboll and McDermott are thinking about every scenario and combing through every bit of game film to see where the advantages lie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, McBean said: Agree with this. Light wind is all I ask for. Forecast is for 5-10 mph...doesn't get much lighter than that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said: Bad games by the Bills (particularly Allen & the Offense) this year all were weather affected. 1. Tennessee - Rain & some wind 2. KC - Wind & Rain 3. NE Wind & scared to throw 4. Baltimore - High winds So yes looking at the weather will be a daily pre-occupation. https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/mo/kansas-city/date/2021-1-24 Only 6 more days.... 1, 2 & 3 from your list were the games followed the Raiders game and this 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, HeHateMe said: We are a finesse team, need that dome! Yeah, like Green Bay and Kansas City. Oh, wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: It seems unlikely that they'll dump a ton of money into the new one. A lot of soccer stadiums do the half-roof thing. A trend that never developed in the states, but seems applicable to Buffalo. It's cheaper, but still gives the fans some protection from the elements. I don't think temporary trends in how the team plays factor into the new stadium discussions. You really think passing and high scoring offenses are a temporary trend in the NFL? The players will be wearing flags and playing with a nerf ball before they go back to ground and pound, dude..........mom's just ain't signing their kids up for that game anymore. Indoors is the new outdoors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Bad games by the Bills (particularly Allen & the Offense) this year all were weather affected. 1. Tennessee - Rain & some wind 2. KC - Wind & Rain 3. NE Wind & scared to throw 4. Baltimore - High winds So yes looking at the weather will be a daily pre-occupation. https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/mo/kansas-city/date/2021-1-24 Only 6 more days.... Weather is kryptonite because you wouldn't be entertained by the hampered offensive output ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: You really think passing and high scoring offenses are a temporary trend in the NFL? The players will be wearing flags and playing with a nerf ball before they go back to ground and pound, dude..........mom's just ain't signing their kids up for that game anymore. Indoors is the new outdoors. Why would anyone want to be comfortable watching a football game live???? 1 minute ago, prissythecat said: Weather is kryptonite because you wouldn't be entertained by the hampered offensive output ? The Bills are best when the weather is not a factor. As a Bills fan, damn right I want it in their favour Sunday.... And yep I want a return to 30+ points.... May need 40..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, Billsfan1972 said: Why would anyone want to be comfortable watching a football game live???? The Bills are best when the weather is not a factor. As a Bills fan, damn right I want it in their favour Sunday.... And yep I want a return to 30+ points.... May need 40..... Here's my thoughts on a dome... They played football in middle school and high school... outdoors. They played football in college - most likely outdoors (at least likely the majority of games). Why do they move to all indoor games in the pros? It's an outdoor game, its played in the fall and winter, and the fans tend to like that weather aspect of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Actually, bad weather at home Bills playoffs games has historically been our ally, definitely not our kryptonite. Including this year. No reason why the weather shouldn't impact US as much as, or more than, our opponents, but it has never really worked out that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Well imo when the weather is a factor they need to hit the shorter routes, a few dink and dunk plays. It makes it hard for both teams that happen to be playing in the bad weather. I think some may think it effects the Bills more maybe because Josh goes for those chunk plays alot which obviously requires more air under the ball. Hopefully wind/rain/snow won't be a factor this Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Ballin Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 At least it's not raining down pink dildos. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 49 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: I think this Bills have no running game thing is a lot like the Bills have no run defense thing. Singletary is not some 3.2 ypc career runner. He’s an average NFL running back and capable of 4.0 ypc plus. Same with Yeldon. Where the running game has consistently looked bad is on 3rd-1 and 4th-1 where this line gets no push and the Bills lose yards every time. I agree with other fans that state the Bills need to run a smidge more for this game, but I still expect a 75/25, 80/20 pass-run ratio. Daboll has said many times that they trust Allen with the ball in his hands and that’s where they want that ball to stay. For sure Daboll and McDermott are thinking about every scenario and combing through every bit of game film to see where the advantages lie. Agreed. Run defense is effort and technique. Success in the running game is about blocking. You can get players at DT and RB that give you a bit of an extra edge in those areas but at what expense? A DT not being athletic enough to rush the passer AT ALL or chase a Cam Newton down from behind and strip the ball out of his hands to save a game? Or a RB who is just good enough to tempt the play caller to take the ball out of the hands of a QB who is getting 9 yards per pass attempt in a game? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, dneveu said: Here's my thoughts on a dome... They played football in middle school and high school... outdoors. They played football in college - most likely outdoors (at least likely the majority of games). Why do they move to all indoor games in the pros? It's an outdoor game, its played in the fall and winter, and the fans tend to like that weather aspect of it. Football was never meant to be played into late January. The NFL created that conundrum. And yes the more it is a passing game, the more weather affects it. Regular season, sure let weather have some effect, but don't want that for the Championship or a Superbowl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Bad games by the Bills (particularly Allen & the Offense) this year all were weather affected. 1. Tennessee - Rain & some wind 2. KC - Wind & Rain 3. NE Wind & scared to throw 4. Baltimore - High winds So yes looking at the weather will be a daily pre-occupation. https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/mo/kansas-city/date/2021-1-24 Only 6 more days.... I don't even have to read the responses, you're just right. Allen even stated how comfortable he is & how much control he has when throwing while playing in a dome. And it's painfully obvious our offense just doesn't play well in the conditions, especially now that we don't have a dynamic back to pound the ball. Either that, or Allen gets nervous playing in front of fans & falters under the pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, BigDingus said: I don't even have to read the responses, you're just right. Allen even stated how comfortable he is & how much control he has when throwing while playing in a dome. And it's painfully obvious our offense just doesn't play well in the conditions, especially now that we don't have a dynamic back to pound the ball. Either that, or Allen gets nervous playing in front of fans & falters under the pressure. Yes so the title of the thread was a little "overblown"..... Clickbait......😉 We have a QB & offense that I want to see playing in ideal conditions. A little wind & cooler weather okay.... Rain & high winds are an issue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Bad games by the Bills (particularly Allen & the Offense) this year all were weather affected. 1. Tennessee - Rain & some wind 2. KC - Wind & Rain 3. NE Wind & scared to throw 4. Baltimore - High winds So yes looking at the weather will be a daily pre-occupation. https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/mo/kansas-city/date/2021-1-24 Only 6 more days.... Tenny and KC. Josh was injured and wearing a shoulder brace that affected his throwing motion. That is a FACT. NE and Baltimore --- the BILLS WON!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 No fair - it's only Tuesday, I demand happy thoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: Bad games by the Bills (particularly Allen & the Offense) this year all were weather affected. 1. Tennessee - Rain & some wind 2. KC - Wind & Rain 3. NE Wind & scared to throw 4. Baltimore - High winds So yes looking at the weather will be a daily pre-occupation. https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/mo/kansas-city/date/2021-1-24 Only 6 more days.... And we won by 14 against the Ravens. HUGE HOLE in your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nick the Greek said: And we won by 14 against the Ravens. HUGE HOLE in your argument. I'm only worried about 300+ yards passing..... Didn't reach it in any of the those games.....😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro Nimbus Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 We also had a stinker of a game against the Jets, only kicking field goals. Weather was pretty good that day 🤷♂️😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: You really think passing and high scoring offenses are a temporary trend in the NFL? The players will be wearing flags and playing with a nerf ball before they go back to ground and pound, dude..........mom's just ain't signing their kids up for that game anymore. Indoors is the new outdoors. Having an adequate/complimentary run game will always be a thing. Your take is a bit sensational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Nick the Greek said: And we won by 14 against the Ravens. HUGE HOLE in your argument. That ^^ 5 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: I'm only worried about 300+ yards passing..... Didn't reach it in any of the those games.....😉 LOL Dude seriously 300 yard game? By December 19 2020 --- Josh Allen has marked seventh 300-yard game this season, tying Drew Bledsoe's franchise record seven games in 2002. How many years of QB;s did we have just to SNIFF a 300 yard game? QB's 3, 4, 5? - Years 3, 10, 18? he has 8 now https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/9/13/21435242/josh-allen-with-the-first-regulation-300-yard-passing-game-by-a-buffalo-bills-qb-since-2014 The last Bills player to do it multiple times in a season was Kyle Orton in 2014! He did it three times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 42 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Yes so the title of the thread was a little "overblown"..... Clickbait......😉 We have a QB & offense that I want to see playing in ideal conditions. A little wind & cooler weather okay.... Rain & high winds are an issue.... I vote for not babying the league even further. Plenty of great teams play in outdoor stadiums. Pats, Packers, Steelers, Ravens, Chiefs, Seahawks. These are all areas that get cold/wet weather. Bills aren't even technically the worst weather stadium historically, although they probably get the weirdest winds. They should build a new open-air stadium that is just engineered in a way that diminishes swirly winds. That can be elegantly done while reducing costs in relation to a domed stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: That ^^ LOL Dude seriously 300 yard game? By December 19 2020 --- Josh Allen has marked seventh 300-yard game this season, tying Drew Bledsoe's franchise record seven games in 2002. How many years of QB;s did we have just to SNIFF a 300 yard game? QB's 3, 4, 5? - Years 3, 10, 18? he has 8 now https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2020/9/13/21435242/josh-allen-with-the-first-regulation-300-yard-passing-game-by-a-buffalo-bills-qb-since-2014 The last Bills player to do it multiple times in a season was Kyle Orton in 2014! He did it three times It was a joke, as some here seemed more obsessed that I continually opined that they couldn't throw for 300 yards (all of 2017-19). But yes I think they'll need to score on Sunday and pass for a lot of yards. What is incredible is how KC has been flirting every game with losing, yet keep pulling them out. Last 8 wins by 6 or less.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: It was a joke, as some here seemed more obsessed that I continually opined that they couldn't throw for 300 yards (all of 2017-19). But yes I think they'll need to score on Sunday and pass for a lot of yards. What is incredible is how KC has been flirting every game with losing, yet keep pulling them out. Last 8 wins by 6 or less.... Your jokes seem to fall flat. maybe hint at sarcasm? I mocked Tyrod Taylor for years for his lack of 300 yard games. The one he had was in OT against Miami and he had the ball twice in OT to get it ans still lost. I even said that I wanted 300 yard games when EJ was playing (and caught trash for it here) EJ was close to 300 yards a few times. Josh Allen - Career Win Loss record - 28-15. The last 2 season record - 23-8. The seasons 13-3 EIGHT 300 yard games Last season 10-5* -- ZERO 300 yard games - * they sat starters in week 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 We should cut Duke Williams to fix this problem of inclement weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Your jokes seem to fall flat. maybe hint at sarcasm? I mocked Tyrod Taylor for years for his lack of 300 yard games. The one he had was in OT against Miami and he had the ball twice in OT to get it ans still lost. I even said that I wanted 300 yard games when EJ was playing (and caught trash for it here) EJ was close to 300 yards a few times. Josh Allen - Career Win Loss record - 28-15. The last 2 season record - 23-8. The seasons 13-3 EIGHT 300 yard games Last season 10-5* -- ZERO 300 yard games - * they sat starters in week 17 To go three full seasons without a 300 yard game is unheard of in the NFL. Somehow Buffalo managed that. The only team not to do it this year were the Ravens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: Does anyone really like wet balls? Ding Ding Ding Ding! Congratulations!!! You have just won the Internet for the day!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 hours ago, gordong said: not 100% true, Josh is on record saying he does like a wet ball.... he said we would rather it was snowing that raining. I am not sure that is 100% accurate... I was looking for the right Allen interview and there are so many now, but what I heard him say was that he does not mind cold and snow, if it is the cold and powder variety. Wyoming had a lot of near 0 or below zero weather and drifting snow and If you live in a cold area you know the different kinds of snow weather I am talking about - when it is so cold that snow is more powder and the ice gets sticky. Maybe someone can locate that interview. He said the ball comes off his hands really well in that, but he said he did not like wet conditions and I think that probably includes sloppy sleet and snow conditions too. This is likely consistent with most QBs as the ball gets heavier when it gets wet and can be a bit more difficult to throw. The positive out of that is that it should affect both teams in regards to passing. I have to admit that with all the weapons Allen has it is a bit more fun when he can easily sling the ball around, but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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