Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, starrymessenger said: The O really really misses a healthy J. Brown. I would love to see the passing stats in games with and without brown. It’s probably like 400 yards vs. 175 yards. He opens everything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyBeets Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said: I’m glad we were able to nail some big runs off but I’m still not sure I actually like the game plan long run. But it’s probably necessary until Smoke comes back. He is such a huge part of at least stretching the field while Diggs and Beasley /Davis work underneath and the sidelines. Without him We lack a respectable solid deep threat and a tight end no where to be found. But I still think This offense is going to live and die with the pass. I prefer we actually ask More if Allen because of the gamer he is. I love a balanced attack in a perfect world. The problem with running so much is we don't ever develop a rhythm in the passing game. I like Gabriel Davis as much as anyone, but he can't stretch the field. That's why we should seriously consider Kenny Stills. We can't continue to hold our breath that John Brown can stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, starrymessenger said: The O really really misses a healthy J. Brown. If Gabe Davis makes some more of those free play down the field catches and builds some trust on them he's going to be a hell of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 One thing that's becoming clear - we had an awesome draft. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Three turnovers is usually a loss. Especially with two unsportsmanlike and two more roughing the passer calls. Thankful Anthony Lynn was their coach today. The Bills made some big plays too but Lynn’s mismanagement was a factor in our favor. Edited November 29, 2020 by Bob in STL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I know how everything gets hyperbolized right after a game but this isn't hyperbole - that penalty against Moss on our last drive was the worst flag I've ever seen. Worse than the roughing the passer penalty that the Patriots were gifted in the 2019 AFC Championship game? Edited November 29, 2020 by Chicken Boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: Not McD's style to rip the team after a win but the weekly practice and film study needs to be intense. It may not be his style, but it's the perfect time IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I mean I think an important part of it is it put out there that we can do it. Defenses being able to ignore our run game makes passing a lot harder. I like sprinkling it in here and there. I just feel like the game plan today came off as kind of disjointed out of sync. Just my opinion though, I’m no means a coach lol id like to see more plays where we have an outlet like the Chargers had with Eckelar. Every time he caught the ball no one was near him for seven to ten yards. Find some creative ways to use our backs. we did hit some good screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said: Questions back to you: Did the Bills win? Did they find a way? Bills won. Anytime you win you can say you “found a way”. But at some point he’s got to get in his guys about finishing games and playing with discipline instead of “finding a way” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: It may not be his style, but it's the perfect time IMO. I think people have to be themselves though. He's a family and love dude so if he starts hurling chairs around and sticking fingers in players faces it would seem fake. So far his philosophy is a well above .500 one so it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: If Gabe Davis makes some more of those free play down the field catches and builds some trust on them he's going to be a hell of a player. So maybe this time next year then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, wvbillsfan said: Bills won. Anytime you win you can say you “found a way”. But at some point he’s got to get in his guys about finishing games and playing with discipline instead of “finding a way” The finding away disappears against a quality team in the playoffs/ 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 As fugly a win as I can remember in a while. Neither team deserved to win that game, imo. On to SF. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: Never a FA of you'd never take him? He will never be a UFA 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, TonyBeets said: I love a balanced attack in a perfect world. The problem with running so much is we don't ever develop a rhythm in the passing game. I like Gabriel Davis as much as anyone, but he can't stretch the field. That's why we should seriously consider Kenny Stills. We can't continue to hold our breath that John Brown can stay healthy. I agree 100 percent and what I was trying to convey. This seems to be a Rhythm passing offense for whatever reason and Josh gets into a zone . We need speed out there for this to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kutztown83 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Does anyone else believe the first Hail Mary was an incomplete pass? The Bills would have then declined the penalty and taken over on downs. Game over. The refs should have taken a closer look at that play, IMO. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: Bills won. Anytime you win you can say you “found a way”. But at some point he’s got to get in his guys about finishing games and playing with discipline instead of “finding a way” They never trailed in the game. They didn’t need to “find a way”, they finished the game and won by two scores 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 49ers are still a good team and it's night game. Mostert is back today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I think people have to be themselves though. He's a family and love dude so if he starts hurling chairs around and sticking fingers in players faces it would seem fake. So far his philosophy is a well above .500 one so it is what it is. My worry is he needs to step his game up too. Alot of the stuff going on today is unacceptable. Obviously, we didn't get the message about knocking Hail Mary's down. Edited November 29, 2020 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Not the Bills best game today, but they were clearly the better team, they held Herbert down better than virtually anyone else all year, and won the game easily. This should be encouraging to Bills fans. They dominated a team that has played many close games on a day when they were not their best. Be happy for crying out loud. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, Kutztown83 said: Does anyone else believe the first Hail Mary was an incomplete pass? The Bills would have then declined the penalty and taken over on downs. Game over. The refs should have taken a closer look at that play, IMO. Yeah but no way McDermott decides to put the game in the hands of the Refs reviewing that over an even tougher play for the Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, TonyBeets said: I love a balanced attack in a perfect world. The problem with running so much is we don't ever develop a rhythm in the passing game. I like Gabriel Davis as much as anyone, but he can't stretch the field. That's why we should seriously consider Kenny Stills. We can't continue to hold our breath that John Brown can stay healthy. Disagree. Running is always good when playing with a 18 point lead. The passing rhythm is developed by Josh making good reads and being accurate, not by passing 75% of the time. While Brown was missed, Davis caught the longest pass of the. day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said: I know how everything gets hyperbolized right after a game but this isn't hyperbole - that penalty against Moss on our last drive was the worst flag I've ever seen. I have to agree with that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, Warcodered said: Yeah but no way McDermott decides to put the game in the hands of the Refs reviewing that over an even tougher play for the Chargers. He has the right to make a decision after whatever ruling the ball hit the ground they didn’t review it when they should have 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: We were bad, the Chargers were worse and the refs were terrible! Otherwise, we’re 8-3 with another Conference win! How refreshing....a competent fan admits we played bad. And yes Homer's it is possible to win yet play terrible. Today was that. Thank Lynn..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Guys, the hail mary thing is just a statistically bizarre pair of back-to-back low-percentage plays. Both were covered well. No reason to worry about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 26 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Anthony Lynn makes Harvey Johnson look like a genius But that still would place him ahead of Hank Bullough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Defense played well today against a decent offense. Held Allen and Williams in check. Made a key 4th down stop and only allowed three points off the three turnovers. OT's had their worst game of the season as Bosa just blew almost everything up. Allen uncharacteristically had two 4th quarter turnovers but made enough plays to win. Tyler Bass is my MVP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Ive been thinking, an we really have to give the D more credit during that 3 turnover period. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coloradobillsfan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kutztown83 said: Does anyone else believe the first Hail Mary was an incomplete pass? The Bills would have then declined the penalty and taken over on downs. Game over. The refs should have taken a closer look at that play, IMO. from the limited look I had it appeared the ball did touch the ground but he had established control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, BillsFanSD said: Guys, the hail mary thing is just a statistically bizarre pair of back-to-back low-percentage plays. Both were covered well. No reason to worry about it. By definition they were not covered well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Yeah but no way McDermott decides to put the game in the hands of the Refs reviewing that over an even tougher play for the Chargers. I think that was inside of 2:00 so it wasn't up to McD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: Bills won. Anytime you win you can say you “found a way”. But at some point he’s got to get in his guys about finishing games and playing with discipline instead of “finding a way” They DID finish the game. With a win. What does "finish a game" mean to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutztown83 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Under 2 minutes, it should have come from NY. It was a 4th down play. If incomplete, the Bills take over on downs and the game is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: If Gabe Davis makes some more of those free play down the field catches and builds some trust on them he's going to be a hell of a player. Totally agree. But although he seems to be a quick study he's still a rook and is facing a learning curve. He's not nearly the route runner Brown is and he's not as fast (though he's fast enough to play outside). The Ds are playing us underneath making our short game more difficult. They will get burned occasionally by Diggs (and Davis) but not having Brown is overall much to their advantage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Have some perspective! 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Have some perspective! Does anyone know where Sam Darnold's family is? Are we sure Gase hasn't taken hostages at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Have some perspective! Not gonna be too funny on draft night... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 One thing that does worry me some is: We drafted Allen for his big strong arm and he has shown the arm strength many times. But whenever the weather/wind is any kind of a factor Allen has had his least impressive games. Admittedly they ran the ball much better which is good and not that he threw the ball bad at all, but still does worry me a little. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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