GMF Peter Schrager LMAO

[streetkings01]

Anybody watch him do the Patriots highlights this morning?  He sounded so depressed and down lol.  I work from home so I watch this show every morning the past few months, he's been overhyping the Pats for months about how they're still the team to beat even w/out Brady, Belichick is a mastermind and he'll have this team competing for the division and blah blah blah.  Anybody that watched the Pats over the last 20 years knows that team goes how Brady goes.  He's been saving Belichicks butt for years, giving him crap receivers year in and year out and telling him to make it work.  I know the Bills haven't been impressive this season, but this guy always has some backhanded compliment when we play well and gets all giddy when we lose.  I don't think he's a Bills hater, I just think he's doing what the rest of the media does and kiss up to Belichick every chance he gets.  He argued with Kyle Brandt for a good 15 minutes on one episode when Brandt predicted the Bills to win the division, basically telling him the Pats were gonna win it because they have for the past 20 years leaving out the fact that #12 is gone and we've won the last 2 meetings against the Pats when Brady either doesn't play or doesn't play the whole game.

[hondo in seattle]

When I first heard Brady was leaving NE, I still believed the Patriots would be competitive because of their strong defense and excellent coaching staff.

 

I only began to doubt them when they led the NFL in COVID opt outs.   Belichick is a great coach.  But even a great coach can't win without good players and right now the Pats just don't have enough of them.  

 

Some people are just conservative by nature.  They have trouble believing in change until it happens.  I'm a bit that way.  I'm not surprised the Bills are leading the AFCE at this point but I am surprised the Pats are in 3rd.  I was predicting Bills, Pats, Fins, Jets.  It's just hard to imagine - despite contrary predictive evidence - a Pats fall of this magnitude.  

 

Even now, I'm not putting next week's game in the win column just yet.  Belichick has ruined too many Sundays for me to discount him.  

Edited October 26, 2020 by hondo in seattle

[TigerJ]

Frankly, I see more entertainment value in watching Bill Belichick's behavior in the midst of failure.  Now that's good stuff.

Edited October 26, 2020 by TigerJ

[Rk_Bills86]

I mean - I'm sure there are a lot of people on this board that will agree.... Until we beat them - their record and our record means nothing.If we want to be crowned the true kings of our division we need to at least split the games we play this season.

[TroutDog]

1 hour ago, streetkings01 said:

Anybody that watched the Pats over the last 20 years knows that team goes how Brady goes.  He's been saving Belichicks butt for years

I’d dispute this. BB is an incredible coach, probably the best ever and, certainly, a HOF’er. 
 

I am as glad to see their apparent demise as much as the next Bills fan but will never underestimate BB. Once he clears out the cap and restocks the cupboard, he’ll turn them around...again. 

[Stank_Nasty]

I can one up this.... This morning on "First things first" Nick Wright(a complete clown) claimed the Pats had nothing to worry about because after they beat the bills this week they'll be a game back and the Bills will implode. Said and 8 pt win against the Jets should actually register as a loss..... I had a chuckle.

[hondo in seattle]

1 minute ago, Rk_Bills86 said:

I mean - I'm sure there are a lot of people on this board that will agree.... Until we beat them - their record and our record means nothing.If we want to be crowned the true kings of our division we need to at least split the games we play this season.

 

Agreed.  The new king is crowned only when he forcibly takes the crown from the old king.

 

My biggest wish is that the Bills offense plays this week like it did the first four games.  Only better - with an effective ground game.  And the Bills D plays like it did the previous two years.  And Cam plays like he did against the 49ers.  And we win by 20+.   And this becomes the 'hit heard around the world' like when Stratton broke Lincoln. 

 

Farewell to old king.  Hail to the new king.  

[wjag]

1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said:

When I first heard Brady was leaving NE, I still believed the Patriots would be competitive because of their strong defense and excellent coaching staff.

 

I only began to doubt them when they led the NFL in COVID opt outs.   Belichick is a great coach.  But even a great coach can't win without good players and right now the Pats just don't have enough of them.  

 

Some people are just conservative by nature.  They have trouble believing in change until it happens.  I'm a bit that way.  I'm not surprised the Bills are leading the AFCE at this point but I am surprised the Pats are in 3rd.  I was predicting Bills, Pats, Fins, Jets.  It's just hard to imagine - despite contrary predictive evidence - a Pats fall of this magnitude.  

 

COVID has hit the Patriots harder than any team.  Sure the Titans got hit hard, but the schedule gods gave them breaks and rest.  NE lost quality defensive players to opt outs and free agency.  Their starting QB1 and CB1 were lost for games and have had their schedule totally f'd with.  And then on top of that, they are working with a revolving OLINE, a banged up and aging WR1 and a bust for their other WR picks.  And I could not be happier... 🙂  I still remember that Randy Moss/Tom Brady game in Buffalo!!!!  I shall never mourn for this team.  Never.  I believe we are watching the changing of the guard.

Edited October 26, 2020 by wjag
biwt

[Buffalo03]

6 minutes ago, TroutDog said:

I’d dispute this. BB is an incredible coach, probably the best ever and, certainly, a HOF’er. 
 

I am as glad to see their apparent demise as much as the next Bills fan but will never underestimate BB. Once he clears out the cap and restocks the cupboard, he’ll turn them around...again. 

He needs to get to a SB without Brady to prove he didn't ride on Brady. Brady is the best QB ever. Any coach could have ridden Brady to even a couple SBs. Adam Gase would look great with Brady. He did nothing in Cleveland and didn't do anything his first year and two games in NE before Bledsoe got hurt and Brady came in and started history for them. People bring up the 2008 season where Brady was gone the whole year but that was also the year coming off a 16-0 season with pretty much the same team as the year before. No matter what QB he had, he was not gonna win 5 games after a 16-0 season. If he coaches for 5 more years and never sees another SB or doesn't get to the playoffs a couple times.or is one and done a few times, I think it proves he rode on the greatest QBs back his whole career

Edited October 26, 2020 by Buffalo03

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

18 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

When I first heard Brady was leaving NE, I still believed the Patriots would be competitive because of their strong defense and excellent coaching staff.

 

I only began to doubt them when they led the NFL in COVID opt outs.   Belichick is a great coach.  But even a great coach can't win without good players and right now the Pats just don't have enough of them.  

 

Some people are just conservative by nature.  They have trouble believing in change until it happens.  I'm a bit that way.  I'm not surprised the Bills are leading the AFCE at this point but I am surprised the Pats are in 3rd.  I was predicting Bills, Pats, Fins, Jets.  It's just hard to imagine - despite contrary predictive evidence - a Pats fall of this magnitude.  

 

Even now, I'm not putting next week's game in the win column just yet.  Belichick has ruined too many Sundays for me to discount him.  

 

 

They also lost a couple other strong players in FA too, VanNoy comes to mind and believe there was a second good player too.

 

I do wonder if Newton tweaked the shoulder again as the first couple of weeks he looked very good, lately not so good and I'm being nice about it.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

15 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I can one up this.... This morning on "First things first" Nick Wright(a complete clown) claimed the Pats had nothing to worry about because after they beat the bills this week they'll be a game back and the Bills will implode. Said and 8 pt win against the Jets should actually register as a loss..... I had a chuckle.

Lol they're a game behind the dolphins too though 🤣 and only 2 games in front of those very same terrible jets...its gonna feel strange rooting for the pats to beat the dolphins for once

[streetkings01]

Brady is the #1 reason the Pats were who they were. Marrone beat the Pats when Brady didn’t play the 2nd half and Rex blanked the Pats when Brady was suspended. We’ve had success against Belichick when Brady is out, hardly ever when he plays 

You take Brady off the Pats the past 20 seasons or how many it is, I think our record against the Pats is around the same as our record against the rest of the AFC East. I think we consistently split with them or sweep them, rarely getting swept ourselves.

[Kwai San]

I for one will never shed a tear either for BB nor the Cheatriots.  As good as a coach he has been he has cheated...worse yet he has been caught cheating AND penalized for it.  A convenient fact all Cheatriot fans like to readily dismiss.

 

What I thought was awesome in yesterdays game is Edlepuss when sitting next to Scam and BB came up and told Scam yer riding the bench the rest of the game.  Edlepuss had that whole smirk thing going, best part was the jokes on them......it is nice to see the whole operation go down the tubes without TB12

 

BB will quit before long....he will realize that TB12 was a generational thing......

[streetkings01]

If Brady is still on the Pats they definitely beat the Seahawks and Broncos and it’s a toss up if they beat the Chiefs.

[RoyBatty is alive]

Shrager is not half as bad as Ted Bruschi is.  I suffered through part of his pre-game and he blamed the Pats laughable loss to the Broncos because they only had 3 practices and Belichek hates uncertainty and doesnt take anything to chance.  But hey, i guess the other 31 NFL HCs love uncertainty and take it all to chance.

 

I would love to hear Bruschi excuse the that embarrassment of a Patriot display versus San Fran yesterday.  Cam looks real bad, the early season magic has run dry.

[LabattBlue]

Schrager just has the kind of face you want to punch.  Saying something stupid just makes you want to punch him multiple times. 
😂

[wjag]

<nonsense deleted>

 

Edit:  Never mind.  I have clearly lost mind mind. 

Edited October 26, 2020 by wjag
biwt

[NewEra]

47 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

He needs to get to a SB without Brady to prove he didn't ride on Brady. Brady is the best QB ever. Any coach could have ridden Brady to even a couple SBs. Adam Gase would look great with Brady. He did nothing in Cleveland and didn't do anything his first year and two games in NE before Bledsoe got hurt and Brady came in and started history for them. People bring up the 2008 season where Brady was gone the whole year but that was also the year coming off a 16-0 season with pretty much the same team as the year before. No matter what QB he had, he was not gonna win 5 games after a 16-0 season. If he coaches for 5 more years and never sees another SB or doesn't get to the playoffs a couple times.or is one and done a few times, I think it proves he rode on the greatest QBs back his whole career

How many Super Bowls did parcels win without Belichick?  Belichick beat us in the SB when he was with the giants with a backup QB.

 

your take on the matter is inconsequential imo.  Only the biggest haters would agree with you that he’s not the greatest, if not one of the greatest coaches of all time.  He is absolutely a football genius, guru, mastermind....whatever you don’t want to call him.  He just is

11 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Shrager is not half as bad as Ted Bruschi is.  I suffered through part of his pre-game and he blamed the Pats laughable loss to the Broncos because they only had 3 practices and Belichek hates uncertainty and doesnt take anything to chance.  But hey, i guess the other 31 NFL HCs love uncertainty and take it all to chance.

 

I would love to hear Bruschi excuse the that embarrassment of a Patriot display versus San Fran yesterday.  Cam looks real bad, the early season magic has run dry.

He really is the worst “analyst” on tv.  This should  be his last

[H2o]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

How many Super Bowls did parcels win without Belichick?  Belichick beat us in the SB when he was with the giants with a backup QB.

 

your take on the matter is inconsequential imo.  Only the biggest haters would agree with you that he’s not the greatest, if not one of the greatest coaches of all time.  He is absolutely a football genius, guru, mastermind....whatever you don’t want to call him.  He just is

As much as I can't stand BB, I have to agree with you. They were hit the hardest by star players opting out. In a way I believe Kraft never truly thought Brady would leave. They lost more than any team from the end of last season to this one. It's just one of those years......... Not saying that I don't love watching Pats fans sulk or them have their problems as an organization, I still absolutely love it. 

[Putin]

1 hour ago, Rk_Bills86 said:

I mean - I'm sure there are a lot of people on this board that will agree.... Until we beat them - their record and our record means nothing.If we want to be crowned the true kings of our division we need to at least split the games we play this season.

Screw that I want to BEAT them TWICE let them split with the jets , unless it’s a game that will be resting our starters and even then I still want to BEAT their A$$

Edited October 26, 2020 by Putin

[streetkings01]

8 minutes ago, NewEra said:

How many Super Bowls did parcels win without Belichick?  Belichick beat us in the SB when he was with the giants with a backup QB.

 

your take on the matter is inconsequential imo.  Only the biggest haters would agree with you that he’s not the greatest, if not one of the greatest coaches of all time.  He is absolutely a football genius, guru, mastermind....whatever you don’t want to call him.  He just is

Belichick is 20-23 in New England without Brady.

He’s 219-64 with Brady

 

Take away that overrated 11-5 season where Matt Cassel quartbacked a stacked team that went 16-0 and made it to a super bowl the previous year, he’s 10-18 without Mr. Brady.

Edited October 26, 2020 by streetkings01

[Mark Vader]

15 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Shrager is not half as bad as Ted Bruschi is.  I suffered through part of his pre-game and he blamed the Pats laughable loss to the Broncos because they only had 3 practices and Belichek hates uncertainty and doesnt take anything to chance.  But hey, i guess the other 31 NFL HCs love uncertainty and take it all to chance.

 

I would love to hear Bruschi excuse the that embarrassment of a Patriot display versus San Fran yesterday.  Cam looks real bad, the early season magic has run dry.

This is what I have been waiting to see.

 

When New England signed Cam Newton, the media was going crazy and talking up how great Newton would look with Bellichick coaching him.

 

I was skeptical, because I wanted to see how Newton would last an entire season. Early on Newton looked very good, and people were saying that "Cam Newton is back!"

 

Now what are people saying? I know they will use Covid as an excuse, but let's be realistic. Cam Newton has regressed since he took the Panthers to the Super Bowl. His best days are behind him. I could be wrong, but I don't see a return to greatness for Newton.

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, TigerJ said:

Frankly, I see more entertainment value is watching Bill Belichick's behavior in the midst of failure.  Now that's good stuff.

He doesn't care anymore.  Look at all the Subway commercials he's doing.  When Brady left, part of Bill left. He's still dangerous but very vulnerable. 

[colin]

aside from losing so many solid players, cam newton is a shell of his former self and i don't think he's really healthy.

 

BB is obv a sick coach, but that just isn't a really good roster.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

Just now, LABILLBACKER said:

He doesn't care anymore.  Look at all the Subway commercials he's doing.  When Brady left, part of Bill left. He's still dangerous but very vulnerable. 

I stopped eating subway because of those commercials. 

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, TroutDog said:

I’d dispute this. BB is an incredible coach, probably the best ever and, certainly, a HOF’er. 
 

I am as glad to see their apparent demise as much as the next Bills fan but will never underestimate BB. Once he clears out the cap and restocks the cupboard, he’ll turn them around...again. 

he will still need a Franchise QB.   No coach can win in the NFL without having a Franchise QB

[RoyBatty is alive]

28 minutes ago, NewEra said:

How many Super Bowls did parcels win without Belichick?  Belichick beat us in the SB when he was with the giants with a backup QB.

 

your take on the matter is inconsequential imo.  Only the biggest haters would agree with you that he’s not the greatest, if not one of the greatest coaches of all time.  He is absolutely a football genius, guru, mastermind....whatever you don’t want to call him.  He just is

He really is the worst “analyst” on tv.  This should  be his last

 

I watched the moronic segment :"Mossed up" with Randy Moss and Bruschi.  To me it was embarrassing to watch how over-reacting they both were.  I wonder who thinks "mossed up" is cool?  15 year olds?

[Johnnycage46]

1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I can one up this.... This morning on "First things first" Nick Wright(a complete clown) claimed the Pats had nothing to worry about because after they beat the bills this week they'll be a game back and the Bills will implode. Said and 8 pt win against the Jets should actually register as a loss..... I had a chuckle.

 

He has an all-time punch-able face.  Putz Extraordinaire.

[Stank_Nasty]

Just now, Johnnycage46 said:

 

He has an all-time punch-able face.  Putz Extraordinaire.

ya man. he's hard to look at even before he opens his mouth.... and then it just gets worse from there.

[TwistofFate]

1 hour ago, TroutDog said:

I’d dispute this. BB is an incredible coach, probably the best ever and, certainly, a HOF’er. 
 

I am as glad to see their apparent demise as much as the next Bills fan but will never underestimate BB. Once he clears out the cap and restocks the cupboard, he’ll turn them around...again. 

He's not the best ever. Tom Brady carried that team for years. They would never have had the success they did without him. While Cam was throwing multiple ints yesterday, Brady put 5 tds on the board. 

 

They will never have the success they had without him again, and Belichick will be exposed as a coach who succeeded simply because he happened to have the GOAT as his Qb. 

[wjag]

14 minutes ago, ganesh said:

he will still need a Franchise QB.   No coach can win in the NFL without having a Franchise QB

 

I remember the Ravens winning a SB with Trent Dilfer. 

[Buffalo03]

34 minutes ago, NewEra said:

How many Super Bowls did parcels win without Belichick?  Belichick beat us in the SB when he was with the giants with a backup QB.

 

your take on the matter is inconsequential imo.  Only the biggest haters would agree with you that he’s not the greatest, if not one of the greatest coaches of all time.  He is absolutely a football genius, guru, mastermind....whatever you don’t want to call him.  He just is

He really is the worst “analyst” on tv.  This should  be his last

It doesn't matter if parcells didn't win Super Bowls without Belichick. Parcells was an amazing head coach and turned around every franchise he took over. Even the Cowboys with no Belichick. He took over for Dave Campo and took Quincy freaking Carter to the playoffs his first year in Dallas. Who knows what would have happened in his last year there if Romo doesn't mess up holding the snap on a field goal to win the game in the playoffs. And as far as Belichick being on that Giants team that beat us in the SB, if the Bills weren't so stubborn and actually took what Belichick was giving them, that "amazing" game plan wouldn't even exist. Belichick said himself that they were "inviting" us to run the football and he was hoping we didn't because they knew they were gonna be in trouble. Thurman Thomas only ran the ball like 15 times and had over 130 yards. Imagine if we would have stuck with that more in the game, it could have been a lot different. The Bills from back then said, it didn't matter what the Giants did, they were living and dying with what got them there. If we weren't so stubborn, could have been a big difference 

[hondo in seattle]

1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said:

He needs to get to a SB without Brady to prove he didn't ride on Brady. Brady is the best QB ever. Any coach could have ridden Brady to even a couple SBs. Adam Gase would look great with Brady. He did nothing in Cleveland and didn't do anything his first year and two games in NE before Bledsoe got hurt and Brady came in and started history for them. People bring up the 2008 season where Brady was gone the whole year but that was also the year coming off a 16-0 season with pretty much the same team as the year before. No matter what QB he had, he was not gonna win 5 games after a 16-0 season. If he coaches for 5 more years and never sees another SB or doesn't get to the playoffs a couple times.or is one and done a few times, I think it proves he rode on the greatest QBs back his whole career

 

I think the relationship between Brady and Belichick was symbiotic.  I think Brady had a lot of innate talent and drive.  But I think Belichick and his coaching staff helped Brady develop his full potential.  Neither Brady nor Belichick would be as great without the other.

 

You look at HOF coaches and they all had great QBs.   Levy had Kelly.  Landry had Staubach.   Bud Grant had Tarkenton.  Jimmy had Aikman.   Noll had Bradshaw.  Walsh had Montana and Young.

 

It's the which-came-first-the-chicken-or-egg argument.  Do great coaches make qbs great?  Or do great qbs make coaches great?  It's a little of both, I think. 

 

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Edited October 26, 2020 by hondo in seattle

[Buffalo03]

4 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I think the relationship between Brady and Belichick was symbiotic.  I think Brady had a lot of innate talent and drive.  But I think Belichick and his coaching staff helped Brady develop his full potential.  Neither Brady nor Belichick would be as great without the other.

 

You look at HOF coaches and they all had great QBs.   Levy had Kelly.  Landry had Staubach.   Bud Grant had Tarkenton.  Jimmy had Aikman.   Noll had Bradshaw.  Walsh had Montana and Young.

 

It's the which-came-first-the-chicken-or-egg argument.  Do great coaches make qbs great?  Or do great qbs make coaches great?  It's a little of both, I think. 

 

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I don't think Belichick had any part in Brady's development. Brady was just naturally good. He didn't do anything else with any other QB he had, Kosar, Testaverde, Bledsoe, Cassel, Newton, Stidham. But he figured it out with Brady? Belichick gets too much credit for that. As I stated before, Adam Gase could have went to Super Bowls and had great success with Brady as his QB. Peyton Manning gave Gase the only success he has ever had in this league and he has gotten two head coaching jobs because of it. It was 20 years of Brady, not Belichick of why they had so much success. If you think the Pats even make the playoffs the year Bledsoe got drilled by Moe Lewis to make way for Brady and get to the SB, you're insane

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

20 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I think the relationship between Brady and Belichick was symbiotic.  I think Brady had a lot of innate talent and drive.  But I think Belichick and his coaching staff helped Brady develop his full potential.  Neither Brady nor Belichick would be as great without the other.

 

You look at HOF coaches and they all had great QBs.   Levy had Kelly.  Landry had Staubach.   Bud Grant had Tarkenton.  Jimmy had Aikman.   Noll had Bradshaw.  Walsh had Montana and Young.

 

It's the which-came-first-the-chicken-or-egg argument.  Do great coaches make qbs great?  Or do great qbs make coaches great?  It's a little of both, I think. 

 

.

When it comes to Brady and Belicheat I would go 80% Brady and 20% Belicheat. 

[NewEra]

30 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

It doesn't matter if parcells didn't win Super Bowls without Belichick. Parcells was an amazing head coach and turned around every franchise he took over. Even the Cowboys with no Belichick. He took over for Dave Campo and took Quincy freaking Carter to the playoffs his first year in Dallas. Who knows what would have happened in his last year there if Romo doesn't mess up holding the snap on a field goal to win the game in the playoffs. And as far as Belichick being on that Giants team that beat us in the SB, if the Bills weren't so stubborn and actually took what Belichick was giving them, that "amazing" game plan wouldn't even exist. Belichick said himself that they were "inviting" us to run the football and he was hoping we didn't because they knew they were gonna be in trouble. Thurman Thomas only ran the ball like 15 times and had over 130 yards. Imagine if we would have stuck with that more in the game, it could have been a lot different. The Bills from back then said, it didn't matter what the Giants did, they were living and dying with what got them there. If we weren't so stubborn, could have been a big difference 

Ok, you’re right.  Belichick isn’t good.  MY BAD.

 

 

[SoTier]

2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

When I first heard Brady was leaving NE, I still believed the Patriots would be competitive because of their strong defense and excellent coaching staff.

 

I only began to doubt them when they led the NFL in COVID opt outs.   Belichick is a great coach.  But even a great coach can't win without good players and right now the Pats just don't have enough of them.  

 

Some people are just conservative by nature.  They have trouble believing in change until it happens.  I'm a bit that way.  I'm not surprised the Bills are leading the AFCE at this point but I am surprised the Pats are in 3rd.  I was predicting Bills, Pats, Fins, Jets.  It's just hard to imagine - despite contrary predictive evidence - a Pats fall of this magnitude.  

 

Even now, I'm not putting next week's game in the win column just yet.  Belichick has ruined too many Sundays for me to discount him.  

 

Exactly right.   👍

[Nextmanup]

2 hours ago, TigerJ said:

Frankly, I see more entertainment value is watching Bill Belichick's behavior in the midst of failure.  Now that's good stuff.

Remember the game, in OP, with Chan Gailey as our HC?  We beat the Patriots with some clever last minute game management and working the clock/scoring timing to perfection.

 

BB realized what was happening, knew he was being fed his own medicine, and that he couldn't do anything about it.

 

He ranted and raved and behaved like a child, then stormed off the filed as a poor loser.

 

That was great to see.  Good entertainment.

 

 

[Brennan Huff]

2 hours ago, Rk_Bills86 said:

I mean - I'm sure there are a lot of people on this board that will agree.... Until we beat them - their record and our record means nothing.If we want to be crowned the true kings of our division we need to at least split the games we play this season.

I agree. The patriots are still the patriots. Bellichick is still the greatest NFL coach in at least modern history, if not all time. The pats got embarrassed yesterday. They will be prepared next Sunday

[hondo in seattle]

18 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

I don't think Belichick had any part in Brady's development. Brady was just naturally good. He didn't do anything else with any other QB he had, Kosar, Testaverde, Bledsoe, Cassel, Newton, Stidham. But he figured it out with Brady? Belichick gets too much credit for that. As I stated before, Adam Gase could have went to Super Bowls and had great success with Brady as his QB. Peyton Manning gave Gase the only success he has ever had in this league and he has gotten two head coaching jobs because of it. It was 20 years of Brady, not Belichick of why they had so much success. If you think the Pats even make the playoffs the year Bledsoe got drilled by Moe Lewis to make way for Brady and get to the SB, you're insane

 

I'm actually impressed with what Belichick did with Cassel.  Here's how Wikipedia sums up Cassel's year as Brady's replacement:

 

By the end of the 2008 season, Cassel had become the first quarterback in NFL history to record at least 10 wins, 325 completions, a 63% completion mark, 3,600 passing yards, 20 touchdown passes, 11 or fewer interceptions, and 250 rushing yards in a single season.

 

Cassel didn't reprise that level of excellence with the Bills.  Or with any other team he played for.  His best year was under Belichick because Belichick is a mastermind.

 

When Charlie Weis was Belichick's  OC, people thought he was a genius.  I think his post-Belichick record disproves that opinion.  

 

As a great head coach, Belichick makes his players and coaches look good - better than they'd be somewhere else.